the continuing changing face of NU FB

[Waylon Van Smack]

I know, I know..... this is a Buff board, please indulge me..... a well written article that points to the fractioning of NU athletics from TO to the common fan. This experiment with the WCO and Cally is coming with a hefty price, the ties being broke are of the same capital that built the program. Steve Petersen is risking the foundation of NU for the sake of change. Does it really need to be this way?

enjoy. http://www.dailynebraskan.com/media/storage/paper857/news/2007/02/22/HuskerFootball/Head-Trainer.Pushed.Out.Of.Nu.Football-2735480.shtml&mkey=2246919

[PhillyBuff]

Waylon:

This IS a CU board.... but fell free to post any negative articles on Nebraska, and in particular Bill Callahan.


Maybe Bill is doing the right think here.... maybe Bill doesn't want Steroids in the program :wink2:

[66BUFF]

burn fuskers burn

[MSBuff]

:wow:

Posting of the Fusker news like this are always welcome.

[Mick Ronson]

Callahan is a joke.

[Unleash Hell]

Hey Jason Peter and Joel Mackovicka, you really want to know why? BECAUSE BILL CALLAHAN AND STEVE PEDERSON ARE ROYAL ASSHOLES!!!

The two are made for each other. Bill Callahan always has some assholness in him. everything from calling his Raiders the "dumbest team in america." to the changing of a tradition, to the fighting of his players in both Oakland and Lincoln, to the throatslash and the ****in hillbillies, and now this.

Bill Callahan is a disgrace and karma is gonna catch up to him real soon. I hope fusker fans realize what an ass they have for a coach.

[FlatironsBuff]

Now, obviously I am not a NU fan, but I am a fan of loyal people. This guy lived and breathed NU sports. He was a fixture since 1984 with the NU sports medicine group and gets tossed aside like used trash.

Yep. NU will get whats comming to them if they stick with Cally and Pederson. I will love seeing the fall, but with a heavy heart because obviously the fall will come at the price of the long time loyal fans and employees.

On the good side for them, the fall isn't as far down as it used to be....:cool:

[Unleash Hell]

Now, obviously I am not a NU fan, but I am a fan of loyal people. This guy lived and breathed NU sports. He was a fixture since 1984 with the NU sports medicine group and gets tossed aside like used trash.

Yep. NU will get whats comming to them if they stick with Cally and Pederson. I will love seeing the fall, but with a heavy heart because obviously the fall will come at the price of the long time loyal fans and employees.

On the good side for them, the fall isn't as far down as it used to be....:cool:

I'm tellin ya, the future of NU football is not that great with Cally and Pederson in town, I don't care how good they are recruiting. Karma will catch up to those asshats, guaranteed!

[L Buff]

More dirt on the Fusker program? (http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1200&u_sid=2335619)

Actually ... this looks like it might be a pretty intersting read ... especially for Buff fans. :smile2:

[PhillyBuff]

I'm tellin ya, the future of NU football is not that great with Cally and Pederson in town, I don't care how good they are recruiting. Karma will catch up to those asshats, guaranteed!

I don't think we can judge on this.... there may be a valid reason that Cally fired this guy and we just don't know. What IF he gave steroids to kids? We just don't know and If I were Cally, would I make that public? No way.

[chipwich]

should we change his name from "throat slash" to "throat slash and burn"

[JJBuff]

I don't think we can judge on this.... there may be a valid reason that Cally fired this guy and we just don't know. What IF he gave steroids to kids? We just don't know and If I were Cally, would I make that public? No way.

Still doesn't change the fact that Callie is an asshole

[Blackshirts]

I don't think we can judge on this.... there may be a valid reason that Cally fired this guy and we just don't know. What IF he gave steroids to kids? We just don't know and If I were Cally, would I make that public? No way.

What if he was the **** head that was solely responsible for Lucky passing out and ending up in the ICU??!!! Again, makes ya wonder that right after they released Lucky from the hospital he was shitcanned!

[JJBuff]

What if he was the **** head that was solely responsible for Lucky passing out and ending up in the ICU??!!! Again, makes ya wonder that right after they released Lucky from the hospital he was shitcanned!

Still doesn't change the fact that Callie is an asshole!

[Blackshirts]

Still doesn't change the fact that Callie is an asshole!

If that is indeed the case, then Coach "Mantits" Hawkins is nipping at his heels! :thumbsup: :smile2:

[L Buff]

It's not all that unusual for a new head coach to not want to retain staff members from the previous regime ... what is a bit unusual is that Cally waited until after his third year at NU to shitcan the head trainer.

Let's not forget that our own former heatrainer left rather suddenly less than a month before the start of fall camp last year. I don't have any inside info on the reason for that, but I thought the timing to be rather unusual, and I don't think it's a stretch to speculate that it had something to do with differing philosophies regarding injuries, training regimens, etc. The same could be true in NU's case. Cally may just want his own guy in there ... someone who agrees with his philosophy regarding sports medicine treatment ... and maybe he waited because he didn't think he could get rid of a trainer who had been in the fusker "family" fopr so long right away.

[KingPants]

More dirt on the Fusker program? (http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1200&u_sid=2335619)

Actually ... this looks like it might be a pretty intersting read ... especially for Buff fans. :smile2:

I don't know, that looks like it is more catered to the fusker fans. They can pat themselves on the back and say what a good choice that was made in letting Solich go.

[Junction]

I don't know, that looks like it is more catered to the fusker fans. They can pat themselves on the back and say what a good choice that was made in letting Solich go.


I liked the bit about Peter offering the fusker players $1,000 to take Ken Dorsey out of a game against the U. Not only is it Buddy Ryan/Marty Schottintheass scumbaggery at it's worst, but I'm pretty sure the payment would have been an NCAA violation... :lol:

[Unleash Hell]

If that is indeed the case, then Coach "Mantits" Hawkins is nipping at his heels! :thumbsup: :smile2:

I don't see anything wrong with what Hawkins said about the player's mom complaining of not enough time off (the kids getting a free education).

What I do think is wrong is Bill Callahan calling his players dumb, giving throatslash gestures, and dumping people that are part of the tradition and it's their lives.

[KingPants]

I don't see anything wrong with what Hawkins said about the player's mom complaining of not enough time off (the kids getting a free education).

What I do think is wrong is Bill Callahan calling his players dumb, giving throatslash gestures, and dumping people that are part of the tradition and it's their lives.

Forgive Nub fans for just trying to dump on Hawk. The programs are going through two different paths right now. Nubs coach is trying to get rid of the great history of the storied Nub program. Whereas we may not have quite the history that they do, but our coach is actively trying to embrace this history. Our coach is trying to get the former players and coaches involved in the program, where their coach is pissing the former players off. I predict in two years when both programs have 8 or 9 win seasons, Fusker fans will admit to themselves that they wish they had a little "Hawk Love".

[leftybuff]

More dirt on the Fusker program? (http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1200&u_sid=2335619)

Actually ... this looks like it might be a pretty intersting read ... especially for Buff fans. :smile2:

So what is the title? "As the corncob turns: My life squatting and snapping for the Corn?":lol:

[L Buff]

So what is the title? "As the corncob turns: My life squatting and snapping for the Corn?":lol:

I was thinking that his journal entry for November 23, 2001 would make for some particularly interesting reading. :smile2:

[absinthe]

this guy put Lucky in the hospital are you kidding? hey what everry makes you sleep at night husker fans.

More likely Cally was sick of this guy telling him guys werent ready to go when he though they were, head coaches are notorious on the college level for over working players, I would bet thats where the friction came over the past few seasons and why this guiy was pushed out of the stafff and eventually fired.

As for the mannet of his firering it sounds like a lot of other stories that come out of NU there days, chicken-****.

Cally was the wrong hire, bad move from the start, bad move fireing solich with out a replacement plan, bad move going with a desperation hire after everyone else said no.

[Unleash Hell]

this guy put Lucky in the hospital are you kidding? hey what everry makes you sleep at night husker fans.

More likely Cally was sick of this guy telling him guys werent ready to go when he though they were, head coaches are notorious on the college level for over working players, I would bet thats where the friction came over the past few seasons and why this guiy was pushed out of the stafff and eventually fired.

As for the mannet of his firering it sounds like a lot of other stories that come out of NU there days, chicken-****.

Cally was the wrong hire, bad move from the start, bad move fireing solich with out a replacement plan, bad move going with a desperation hire after everyone else said no.

what was cally, like the skers 6th choice?:lol: Hawk will beat throatslash nxt year

[Waylon Van Smack]

what was cally, like the skers 6th choice?:lol: Hawk will beat throatslash nxt year

He was not even on the list. he fell from the sky when fired from da raidas and SP was out of names... I dont blame these woes on him, he was simply looking for a job, once hired he had a job to do and he had a tough one, retool a 5 time NC offence that was behind the ages with a rabid following is as tough of a position to be in as there is in CFB. I agreed with the Solich firing, I dislike how it was done and how the AD continues to come off consistantly as an ass. The only salvation will be he is gone with this staff should change be made again. He has made his bed and should change be forced again it will be an entire overhaul of the program not in the sense of the scheme they will run but from a personnel standpoint. the next AD and FBHC will be tied to NU's past, the modern changes will stick but the faces will be more familar. of course this is IMO only.

[coyeote]

It could have had something to do with having the worst offensive line in the Big XII for 2 out of the past 3 years as well.

The "pipeline" is or was broken, rusting and in need of repair. The strength and conditioning or lack there of at Nebraska was most obvious in the offensive line not only under Solich but under the current regime as well. I don't think BC is the guy that will bring Nebraska back and I don't think Solich was either. The big twelve is and will continue to be Texas and OU and then a bunch of mid-level teams for at least a few more years. CU has as much a chance at dominating the North division as anyone in a couple of years. I hate to say it but even KSU could be a player in the North division in a couple of years. Its a sad era in Big XII football.

[Mick Ronson]

all i know is the next time Callahan beats a *good team* will be the first.

[coyeote]

all i know is the next time Callahan beats a *good team* will be the first.

I like that!:lol:

[SpacemanSpiff]

What if he was the **** head that was solely responsible for Lucky passing out and ending up in the ICU??!!! Again, makes ya wonder that right after they released Lucky from the hospital he was shitcanned!

The article specifically says that's untrue. Clearly, none of us know if it is or not, but he seems pretty adamant that it's not.

Whatever the case, this is no longer your father's....sorry, pappy's beloved NU program. It's changed, for better or worse, probably a lot of both. As someone who grew up as a Husker fan, I view it with some sadness because it was always somewhat of a special program in a lot of ways. But as a diehard Buff fan now, I gotta say, I'm not losing any sleep about The Guppy (what is it with Callahan and his incessant movement of his lower jaw that makes him look like a fish out of water???) running that once proud program into the dirt.

[Blackshirts]

all i know is the next time Callahan beats a *good team* will be the first.

LOL gotta love those gold colored glasses! :smile2:

[Mick Ronson]

LOL gotta love those gold colored glasses! :smile2:

OK, list the good teams Cally has beat? and i won't EVEN go into the turtle puss jobs against OU or USC.

let's see the list, big boy. and not one ranked team i bet ya. GBR.

[Mick Ronson]

yer on line Blackshirts...I can see it......where's the list? too many to count?

[Blackshirts]

yer on line Blackshirts...I can see it......where's the list? too many to count?

The funny thing is you considering your team good! Basing it on last year's performance? Hmmm....how exactly do you get these "we are a good team" theories?? The best player on the team was your ****ing kicker!!!! That would be saying something if we were talking about CU's Soccer team but sorry to say we are not!

[JJBuff]

The funny thing is you considering your team good! Basing it on last year's performance? Hmmm....how exactly do you get these "we are a good team" theories?? The best player on the team was your ****ing kicker!!!! That would be saying something if we were talking about CU's Soccer team but sorry to say we are not!

That sure was a long list

[Mick Ronson]

The funny thing is you considering your team good! Basing it on last year's performance? Hmmm....how exactly do you get these "we are a good team" theories??

this thread is about you. we stink right now....point to ONE THING in any of my posts that suggests otherwise or even references CU football. this is on you......cool breeze. MISTER ****ING BIG RED.

c'mon, surely the guy who invented the forward pass is rocking against .500 teams......let's see that one since you puss out so hard on the other....and no more of this weakass deflection. answer a question.

[absinthe]

The funny thing is you considering your team good! Basing it on last year's performance? Hmmm....how exactly do you get these "we are a good team" theories?? The best player on the team was your ****ing kicker!!!! That would be saying something if we were talking about CU's Soccer team but sorry to say we are not!

we were crap last year we are aware of that hence the inference that despite the fact NU crushed us, cally still hasnt beaten a good team.

see how that works?

[Blackshirts]

That sure was a long list

Hmm so when we BEAT CU that will be considered a good win. Give me a ****ing break! Then I was asked when was the last time we beat a ranked team? That's funny, I can't remember the last time CU was even ranked! So you are saying good wins are beating ranked teams but beating CU will be a "good win"! Very interesting.....Put that in your pipe and smoke it! :smile2:

[Mick Ronson]

Hmm so when we BEAT CU that will be considered a good win. Give me a ****ing break! Then I was asked when was the last time we beat a ranked team? That's funny, I can't remember the last time CU was even ranked! So you are saying good wins are beating ranked teams but beating CU will be a "good win"! Very interesting.....Put that in your pipe and smoke it! :smile2:

still dodging.....answer the question.

[JJBuff]

Hmm so when we BEAT CU that will be considered a good win. Give me a ****ing break! Then I was asked when was the last time we beat a ranked team? That's funny, I can't remember the last time CU was even ranked! So you are saying good wins are beating ranked teams but beating CU will be a "good win"! Very interesting.....Put that in your pipe and smoke it! :smile2:

Once again, a nice long list!:thumbsup:

[KingPants]

all i know is the next time Callahan beats a *good team* will be the first.


The funny thing is you considering your team good!

Based on the fact that you guys beat us last year, and Mick thinks (correctly) that your team has not beat anyone good, it pretty easy to tell that Mick does not think that we are good.
Still waiting for the list.

[Blackshirts]

still dodging.....answer the question.
as are you! See how that works? :thumbsup:

[Blackshirts]

Based on the fact that you guys beat us last year, and Mick thinks (correctly) that your team has not beat anyone good, it pretty easy to tell that Mick does not think that we are good.
Still waiting for the list.


I dont need a list the proof is on the past years scoreboards. And that is why I think BC will be on the ****ing hot seat this year. Unlike many of you fans I dont see my team crosseyed. Until we beat a ranked team worth a **** it will be the same ole song and dance year after year! And yet again many of you have selective ****ing reading (imagine that) I was laughing at the comment being made that if we beat CU this year it will be considered a "good win"!

[Mick Ronson]

as are you! See how that works? :thumbsup:

no, i don't see how that works. i ain't dodging anything. you puss like your coach at OU in 03 and at USC last year. you don't play to win. way to go Holy Nebraska Football.

the onus is still on you. answer the question.

[Blackshirts]

no, i don't see how that works. i ain't dodging anything. you puss like your coach at OU in 03 and at USC last year. you don't play to win. way to go Holy Nebraska Football.

the onus is still on you. answer the question.

Jesus Christ I think I just lost 15 IQ points trying to decipher that ****ing mess you just typed! :wow:

[66BUFF]

I can't remember the last time CU was even ranked

11/12/2005 ranked #22

[Mick Ronson]

Jesus Christ I think I just lost 15 IQ points trying to decipher that ****ing mess you just typed! :wow:

that's the dumbest thing i've ever read.

c'mon, defend your coach and his record.

[Mick Ronson]

http://buzz.smm.org/buzz/media/images/hourglass.preview.jpg

[SpacemanSpiff]

BlackShirt - dude, just cry uncle already! This is like watching a cat play with a dying rodent...

[JJBuff]

http://z.about.com/d/phoenix/1/0/r/K/tumbleweeds01.jpg

It sure is quiet around here

[Mick Ronson]

for the record, BS was on line when i made my last post. so he won't get that angle of lame excuse that is sure to follow. or just wuss out in general. at least be a man.

Shoulder to Shoulder.

[Junction]

Jesus Christ I think I just lost 15 IQ points trying to decipher that ****ing mess you just typed! :wow:

I doubt it. The IQ scale doesn't go negative... :smile2:

[Liver]

Jesus Christ I think I just lost 15 IQ points trying to decipher that ****ing mess you just typed! :wow:

omigawd, you have the reasoning skills of a trilobyte.

you were asked for a list of "good" teams cally has beaten.

you've declined to provide that list because you know very well that clown-a-han hasn't beaten ANY good teams in his tenure at stinkoln. and his pussified turtle jobs against usc and texas show you exactly how far you've fallen. he might as well have gone across the field before kickoff and begged carroll and brown to go easy on the fuskers.

no one here said a win over CU last year was a "good" win for the fuskers. dumbass. and, no one said CU was good, either.

answer the ****ing question. name a good win. any win.

for example, CU, in my opinion, hasn't had a "good" win (and i define a good win as a win over a highly ranked team, preferably a national power or conference rival) in about 4 years, so use that definition and see about making a list.

show some sack.

[Highwalker]

omigawd, you have the reasoning skills of a trilobyte.

you were asked for a list of "good" teams cally has beaten.

you've declined to provide that list because you know very well that clown-a-han hasn't beaten ANY good teams in his tenure at stinkoln. and his pussified turtle jobs against usc and texas show you exactly how far you've fallen. he might as well have gone across the field before kickoff and begged carroll and brown to go easy on the fuskers.

no one here said a win over CU last year was a "good" win for the fuskers. dumbass. and, no one said CU was good, either.

answer the ****ing question. name a good win. any win.

for example, CU, in my opinion, hasn't had a "good" win (and i define a good win as a win over a highly ranked team, preferably a national power or conference rival) in about 4 years, so use that definition and see about making a list.

show some sack.

I believe the term is Wenzeled. Pinkshirts is getting owned right now.

[LincolnBuff]

I know, I know..... this is a Buff board, please indulge me..... a well written article that points to the fractioning of NU athletics from TO to the common fan. This experiment with the WCO and Cally is coming with a hefty price, the ties being broke are of the same capital that built the program. Steve Petersen is risking the foundation of NU for the sake of change. Does it really need to be this way?

enjoy. http://www.dailynebraskan.com/media/storage/paper857/news/2007/02/22/HuskerFootball/Head-Trainer.Pushed.Out.Of.Nu.Football-2735480.shtml&mkey=2246919

Cally and Pedey have shown us many times what douchebags they are and that is why the Fusker program will never be where it was 10 years ago.

[Liver]

I believe the term is Wenzeled. Pinkshirts is getting owned right now.

http://norbizness.com/archives/pwn3d.jpg

[MSBuff]

http://norbizness.com/archives/pwn3d.jpg

OH OH!!! what happened to him?

[El Gringo]

OH OH!!! what happened to him?

I think it is quite clear what happened. You see, that big beast with the horns is a bull, a member of the family Bovidae. Incidently, this is the same family as the Amercian Bison, commonly know as a Buffalo.

It is quite well known that Buffaloes hate the color red. This is true of all members of the bovid family. This particular bull did only what was natural to him when he sees red - he gores the mother****er.

[Mick Ronson]

7 hours later. this is really kind of pitiful. all the dude has to say is we ain't beat anybody good under the WCO genius. i think we are pretty good to the misguided who support other teams in here.

actually, i could do it better than him: Heck, we beat Michigan!

[Blackshirts]

7 hours later. this is really kind of pitiful. all the dude has to say is we ain't beat anybody good under the WCO genius. i think we are pretty good to the misguided who support other teams in here.

actually, i could do it better than him: Heck, we beat Michigan!

That is because I don't have the "luxury" of sitting on my ass all day arguing like a bunch of 10 year olds on the internet. In othewords I had to go to work. As far as the Huskers beating a "good team" Hmmmm I don't think we have. See I can admit that. As far as the program being where it was 10 years ago. Well no ****! Tom Osborne was here 10 years ago but I feel that the staff that is/was getting shitcanned was long over due. Sometimes you need to clean house and start over with new ideas, coaching philosophys etc. I love my team as I expect you CU fans to do but, I also am not blinded with reality. Until we beat some quality teams we won't get the respect.

[SJBuff]

That is because I don't have the "luxury" of sitting on my ass all day arguing like a bunch of 10 year olds on the internet. In othewords I had to go to work. ...
:bs: :cry: BS whiny bitch response.
I see you had enough luxury time to make smart ass remarks and defensive arguments (see evidence below) but it must have been just to hard to make a list, huh? Face it, you got called out to answer a very simple question and when it was time for you to step up like a man you showed your true colors - pussy & whiny. You are the exact 10 year old internet bitch that you claim we are. What you need is called a mirror. Take a look. When you're done crying come back.


The funny thing is you considering your team good! Basing it on last year's performance? Hmmm....how exactly do you get these "we are a good team" theories?? The best player on the team was your ****ing kicker!!!! That would be saying something if we were talking about CU's Soccer team but sorry to say we are not!
Hmm, no list there.


Hmm so when we BEAT CU that will be considered a good win. Give me a ****ing break! Then I was asked when was the last time we beat a ranked team? That's funny, I can't remember the last time CU was even ranked! So you are saying good wins are beating ranked teams but beating CU will be a "good win"! Very interesting.....Put that in your pipe and smoke it! :smile2:
Not here either. Pretty evasive though...

as are you! See how that works? :thumbsup:
Nice dodge!

Jesus Christ I think I just lost 15 IQ points trying to decipher that ****ing mess you just typed! :wow:
And again. Everything but the list.

[SJBuff]

Excellent! Blackskirt just neg repped me! I guess it's fair since I neg repped him yesterday for not answering the simple question put to him.

His neg rep comment sounded a little hot under the collar: "I did answer it you dumb****! I don't live on the computer 24 hours a day! BS". I guess he doesn't like being called a pussy. Touch a nerve did we BS?

[Mick Ronson]

it's like i said before, he was on-line when i made the hourglass post....which was 45 minutes after (at minimum) he had the chance to answer the question put to him.

[PhillyBuff]

it's like i said before, he was on-line when i made the hourglass post....which was 45 minutes after (at minimum) he had the chance to answer the question put to him.

he did answer... there was no answer.......

****ing douchebags! (sacky 3:45)

[wsp4820]

it's like i said before, he was on-line when i made the hourglass post....which was 45 minutes after (at minimum) he had the chance to answer the question put to him.

Just to clarify, it does take a while after you close out of your internet browser before you actually disappear from the "who is online" section. Not 45 minutes, however, but for future berating of posters, they may have actually left the site even though the site doesn't register them as offline yet.

[canuck_buff]

What if he was the **** head that was solely responsible for Lucky passing out and ending up in the ICU??!!! Again, makes ya wonder that right after they released Lucky from the hospital he was shitcanned!

Thats Just ignorant. Go kill yourself now. Tieing a loyal hard working guy to Marlon's situation is pathetic. You need to go get sterilized so you can never have kids or at least get shot in a hunting "accident". Marlon nor this longtime employee deserve the comment you made.

[PhillyBuff]

Thats Just ignorant. Go kill yourself now. Tieing a loyal hard working guy to Marlon's situation is pathetic. You need to go get sterilized so you can never have kids or at least get shot in a hunting "accident". Marlon nor this longtime employee deserve the comment you made.

that was a what if.... not an assumption. No one is speaking so we as fans are ONLY left to conjure up possibilities. I thought the same thing. IT IS possible that the two could be related.... people have lied to protect themselves or a football program. It does happen!

[Waylon Van Smack]

Cally and Pedey have shown us many times what douchebags they are and that is why the Fusker program will never be where it was 10 years ago.

As an NU fan I understand your opinion as a Buff fan. there is a nice amount of talent in the coaching ranks with NU bloodline "earning their stripes" as we debate this. Turner Gill, Marvin Sanders, Tommie Frazier, Scott Frost, Jerry Gdowski, Tom Rathman are just some former players earning paychecks as coaches. There are several more former coaches doing the same. If SP and BC are asked to leave, there is this guy names Osborne who would likely be asked to lead a search to fill both positions and may offer his services as interim AD for a time. I think a Turner Gill (HC, OC)/Scott Frost (DC) combo would be a strong nucleus.

Believe me IF change happens it will be a major infusion of former NU talent.

I am hopeful that this current regime will make this work but my gut says it is 50-50 right now. the next 2 years are the make or break years IMO.

[Waylon Van Smack]

Wow this firing is brewing up more controversy than I thought.
Got this from another board. it is an open email to SP.


Mr. Pederson,

My name is Ben Kingston. I played football at UNL from 1995 thru 1999, many of the years you were also an employee of the university. I can honestly say that those 5 years were the best but hardest times of my life; I learned more about the type of person I was and, more importantly, the person who I wanted to become than at any other time in my life. A large part of that experience was due to the relationships that I formed with the coaches, the staff and the my teammates. As I'm sure you have heard, the character and tradition of Nebraska's program is what has separated (emphasis added) us from other institutions. This didn't happen by happenstance; it happened because its tradition was a reflection of the people of the state of Nebraska. The character of Nebraska's program, up until recently, has transcended each era and though it did change with the times, it didn't let the times change it. Nebraska's signature tradition was there when my uncle played in the early-70's. It was instilled in me by the Peter brothers, Grant, the Makovickas, et al. when I was a freshman. In 1999, when my fellow graduating seniors and I walked off the field in Tempe, AZ., for the final time donning scarlet and cream, we knew that we had done our very best to make sure that the program was being handed off to the freshman in at least the same shape as when we received it.

In the Nebraska "family," the coaches were the fathers, the upper classmen the big brother, and so on. Accordingly, the bar regarding character and attitude was set by the coaches and would only go as high or low as that which was exemplified by them. With Osborne and Solich, the bar was set very high. Players came from all walks of life, some with baggage, some without. Regardless, those who stuck it out became family and helped transcend the character of the program in the next generation of players. And because of such, most if not all of us left the the program with a tear in our eye because we knew we were truly loved as part of that family and that the Nebraska we knew would always be there with open arms when its family members returned. Sadly, in its present state, I'm now unsure whether or not this is still true. Which brings me to the point of this letter: The recent dismissal of Doak Ostergard.

During my time at Nebraska, I spent more time that I would have liked in the care of Doak. I first got to know him when he had me doing rehabilitation for a deep thigh bruise by running laps in the pool, along side Brook Berringer. Over the course of the next 4 years, during the ups and downs, he was a man in whom I developed unquestionable trust in his abilities as our head athletic trainer, and who became and still is a good friend. Whether your were first team or scout team, Doak and his staff did all that they could to see that you received only the best treatment while, at the same time, making sure that he lightened up the situation brought on by the inevitable pressures on a player.

When I blew out my knee during spring ball before my sophomore year, Doak was the one who made me chuckle in the training room only minutes after I was carted off the field and thought the world had come to an end. When I didn't have the heart to call my father to tell him about my injury because I didn't want to hear the sadness in his voice, Doak took it upon himself to make that call and put my father at ease. I often saw him stick up for players when a coach thought a player's injury to be less severe than it appeared. Much like a physician, he was an advocate for his players and was objective in his assessment; not to be swayed by the pressures of the program.

The reason I tell you this is because I know that your current players see Doak in the same light. And you have done them a great disservice by your actions, the etiology of which I am almost certain is personal, be it yours or Callahan's.

What is even more interesting is that I know that Coaches Osborne and Solich would echo the above. Two very meticulous coaches who were a part of at least 3 national championship teams also placed their trust in Doak Ostergard. No questions asked. This was evidenced by the fact that he was promoted to head athletic trainer when Jack Nicolite left to become a PA following the '95 championship season. Further, based on my experiences as a player, I also knew that the fine team of orthopedic surgeons believed in Doak and considered him one of the best at what he did. Don't you think that they, along with Dr. Albers, may be in a better position to evaluate Doak's proficiency in fulfilling his duties? Or have they and their opinions just fallen on deaf ears? Or, was his dismissal because of something completely unrelated to his job performance. I believe that in time, the facts will come out to support the latter.

Now, as an attorney, I see a lot of BS. Living out her in L.A., I'm knee deep. And well, in regard to the issue at hand, if I had to teach one of my young associates to spot a BS statement while taking the deposition of say, an athletic director or football coach, exhibit number one would be:


"Doak, you are not going to be kept on because we are taking athletic medicine in another direction. Thank you. Good bye."


Are you kidding me? What does that mean?

I would have loved for a journalist to have asked you or Bill that question at the beginning of the 2006 season.

Journalist: "So, Bill...in what direction do you see the Department of Athletic Medicine going in 2006?"

Bill: "Uh....medicine, what? Can you repeat the question?"


I now have a headache.

First, Steve, Bill, or whoever, if you can't give the man his dignity by being truthful, at least wake up 30 minutes earlier in the morning, throw on a fresh pot of coffee to get that caffeine-high creativity, and come up with something that at least makes sense instead of just regurgitating what you heard said on ESPN the previous night by the San Diego Charger's General Manager as to his reasoning for the firing of Marty Schottenheimer.

New rule for 2007: You are no longer allowed to used the word "direction" when it relates to the field of employment.

I digress.

I can honestly say, based on my conversations with the former players, coaches, etc., that we now feel that the "Nebraska" we knew, the character that made this family great, has been lost...at least for now. This sentiment has been driven home most recently by your firing of Doak Ostergard. There was the Nebraska of Devaney, Osborne and Solich. And now there is the Nebraska of today. Please do not doubt the sincerity or accuracy of this statement. This "paradise lost" was not because of you choosing to "adapt to the times," "upgrade our facilities," or the like. It was lost because you, and now I realize Coach Callahan, do not know, or do not care about upholding and continuing Nebraska's tradition of character, integrity, attitude, sacrifice and family. One where egotism and megalomania are absent or, at the very least, take a back seat to what is in the best interest of the program and out of respect for the pillars of tradition on which the program was built. Unfortunately, starting at the top, it now seems that the tradition that was handed down over generations, even eras, was left behind when you decided that the program was going to be a reflection you and Bill, rather than what the program already was conceptually. When you and Callahan saw Nebraska as a blank canvass to paint any picture you deemed fit, a masterpiece was destroyed.

Steve, of course I am aware that being in an administrative position calls upon you to make difficult decisions. And no matter how you decide, you are always going to make some people unhappy. However, there are decisions which are just plain wrong, where the method of execution is even more wrong, and where the aforementioned axiom won't provide you any real-world justification. Case-in-point: Doak Ostergard.

I write this letter because Doak is a friend, a person I and countless other players believe in and, on what facts I have collected (more than you may think), believe he was treated very unfairly. No, unconscionably. Also, a lot of what I said has been collecting for some time, beginning in December 2003, and given last week's events, I felt that I needed to state was is contained herein.

I have bcc'ed a number of my fellow Nebraskans, including former players and friends. I hope that further comment by them will only further impress upon you and Mr. Callahan the fault of your actions.

I will always bleed Husker-red. I will always support the players and Nebraska. But Steve, rest assured, the players, past and present, are the true keepers of this program, not you and those under your pen. We now eagerly wait for our Cincinnatus to return.

Very truly yours,

Ben Kingston
Fullback, Class of '99

[Blackshirts]

that was a what if.... not an assumption. No one is speaking so we as fans are ONLY left to conjure up possibilities. I thought the same thing. IT IS possible that the two could be related.... people have lied to protect themselves or a football program. It does happen!

EXACTLY! There are cover ups in sports all the time! Nor did I say that he had anything to do with Lucky being hospitalized. I questioned the timing of the firing.

[Waylon Van Smack]

EXACTLY! There are cover ups in sports all the time! Nor did I say that he had anything to do with Lucky being hospitalized. I questioned the timing of the firing.

IMO this is a bad firing and I don't feel any less of a fan for saying so.

[sackman]

We now eagerly wait for our Cincinnatus to return.

Very truly yours,

Ben Kingston
Fullback, Class of '99

This guy actually knows who Cincinnatus was? Amazing for a fusker. Are you sure he really went there? Did he get a graduate degree somewhere?

[66BUFF]

This guy actually knows who Cincinnatus was? Amazing for a fusker. Are you sure he really went there? Did he get a graduate degree somewhere?

he said he was a lawyer in LA, wonder where he went for law school?

[absinthe]

Pepperdine class of 2003

[SuperiorBuff]

Wow this firing is brewing up more controversy than I thought.
Got this from another board. it is an open email to SP.

Truly sad to see happen. I think we are just coming out of our similar experience, Mac and Crowder are back involved and the former players are starting to get back involved again. It is truly dark and sad when the foundation of your program start pulling away.

Hopefully the president and regents see what is happening and have the balls to take action. I'm torn as a Buff fan, on one hand I reserve hatred for one team only :rip:nu:rip:, but it is hard to watch any proud program suffer the stripping of it's heritage and history.

[Unleash Hell]

Truly sad to see happen. I think we are just coming out of our similar experience, Mac and Crowder are back involved and the former players are starting to get back involved again. It is truly dark and sad when the foundation of your program start pulling away.

Hopefully the president and regents see what is happening and have the balls to take action. I'm torn as a Buff fan, on one hand I reserve hatred for one team only :rip:nu:rip:, but it is hard to watch any proud program suffer the stripping of it's heritage and history.

Not sad to see it happen to the fuskers. :smile2:

[ladyblaise]

Excellent! Blackskirt just neg repped me! I guess it's fair since I neg repped him yesterday for not answering the simple question put to him.

His neg rep comment sounded a little hot under the collar: "I did answer it you dumb****! I don't live on the computer 24 hours a day! BS". I guess he doesn't like being called a pussy. Touch a nerve did we BS?

yep. that's his schtick.

and he is a huge pussy :nod:

sounds like doak was well respected. i don't think he had players on the juice. way to go cally and pedey! :thumbsup: pissing people off again.

[Waylon Van Smack]

sounds like doak was well respected. i don't think he had players on the juice. way to go cally and pedey! :thumbsup: pissing people off again.:nod:

It has taken on a life of its own now. Tom Shatel has an op ed on it (not avail online yet) and one local radio show dedicated the entire first hour to it concluding with an interview with Doak himself. He was classy, liked all the coaches during his tenure, all were different, all had pluses and minuses. Liked Cally, very driven, did not think he had the authority to actually fire him as he was not Doaks supervisor, did not perform his reviews etc. would have loved to transfer to another NU sport, would have stayed indefinitely. Was simply told NU FB was going a different direction, nothing else...... still puzzles me as to why he then handed in a resignation (not the smartest move if he feels he was treated unfairly) but was a class act about evrything asked of him. said he is amazed how this issue has grown with the media and fan base, felt humbled by it.

[ladyblaise]

Excellent! Blackskirt just neg repped me! I guess it's fair since I neg repped him yesterday for not answering the simple question put to him.

His neg rep comment sounded a little hot under the collar: "I did answer it you dumb****! I don't live on the computer 24 hours a day! BS". I guess he doesn't like being called a pussy. Touch a nerve did we BS?


:nod:

It has taken on a life of its own now. Tom Shatel has an op ed on it (not avail online yet) and one local radio show dedicated the entire first hour to it concluding with an interview with Doak himself. He was classy, liked all the coaches during his tenure, all were different, all had pluses and minuses. Liked Cally, very driven, did not think he had the authority to actually fire him as he was not Doaks supervisor, did not perform his reviews etc. would have loved to transfer to another NU sport, would have stayed indefinitely. Was simply told NU FB was going a different direction, nothing else...... still puzzles me as to why he then handed in a resignation (not the smartest move if he feels he was treated unfairly) but was a class act about evrything asked of him. said he is amazed how this issue has grown with the media and fan base, felt humbled by it.

tom may be a complete idiot at times, but he has his enteratining moments. it would be interesting reading what he said about it.

did he (doak) have any insight on the proposed flesh eating virus / desert storm agent?

i believe that if doak was as respected as it seems, he will land on his feet. best of luck to him. i hope the skers take in a snazzle toofed idiot next. :wink2: blackshirts may be a likely candidate... :smile2:

[Blackshirts]

tom may be a complete idiot at times, but he has his enteratining moments. it would be interesting reading what he said about it.

did he (doak) have any insight on the proposed flesh eating virus / desert storm agent?

i believe that if doak was as respected as it seems, he will land on his feet. best of luck to him. i hope the skers take in a snazzle toofed idiot next. :wink2: blackshirts may be a likely candidate... :smile2:

I think you have a crush on me!:smile2:

[ladyblaise]

I think you have a crush on me!:smile2:

that would be worthless. you have a man crush on sj.

[Blackshirts]

tom may be a complete idiot at times, but he has his enteratining moments. it would be interesting reading what he said about it.

did he (doak) have any insight on the proposed flesh eating virus / desert storm agent?

i believe that if doak was as respected as it seems, he will land on his feet. best of luck to him. i hope the skers take in a snazzle toofed idiot next. :wink2: blackshirts may be a likely candidate... :smile2:

Tom is a complete idiot! Hell CU fans no more about the Huskers then that moron does! I wonder if OSU fans went this ape **** when Woody Hayes got fired??? :wow: Traidition is a buzz word that I think at times is an excuse for fear of change. Or denial that things need to change but why? We don't need to do anything "It's tradition". Look at Penn St for instance....Joe Pa has been there since man stood upright and just how many NC's has he won? Again are PSU fans that scared to rock the boat in fear of pissing off the "ye ole faithfull" who know's. Obviously the NU President and boosters seem to think Pedey is a good hire. In reality, boosters are what makes or breaks a program anyways.

[MiamiBuffs]

Tom is a complete idiot! Hell CU fans no more about the Huskers then that moron does! I wonder if OSU fans when this ape **** when Woody Hayes got fired??? :wow: Traidition is a buzz word that I think at times is an excuse for fear of change. Or denial that things need to change but why? We don't need to do anything "It's tradition". Look at Penn St for instance....Joe Pa has been there since man stood upright and just how many NC's has he won? Again are PSU fans that scared to rock the boat in fear of pissing off the "ye ole faithfull" who know's. Obviously the NU President and boosters seem to think Pedey is a good hire. In reality, boosters are what makes or breaks a program anyways.

Is that you Sandra Vagina? :lol:

[Liver]

Is that you Sandra Vagina? :lol:

paging mr. hunt.

paging mike hunt.

has anyone seen...

[coyeote]

I can't believe a fan base for any other division I school would be this bent out of shape over a trainer getting asked to leave. That's what happens when they pull the pro bowlers tour off the air. Nothing to do but worry about nothing.

A trainer getting let go is not a big deal.

[Mick Ronson]

I can't believe a fan base for any other division I school would be this bent out of shape over a trainer getting asked to leave. That's what happens when they pull the pro bowlers tour off the air. Nothing to do but worry about nothing.

A trainer getting let go is not a big deal.

i'm actually glad they are bent, shows there is some life left in them other than Cally invented the foraward pass Pravda. (misspell by design).

[SJBuff]

i'm actually glad they are bent, shows there is some life left in them other than Cally invented the foraward pass Pravda. (misspell by design).

To me it shows they are scared. They are scared because they know any little slip and they could have a 2 and 10 season just like we did. The fuskers are learning that it's tough on a level playing field.

[Waylon Van Smack]

Tom is a complete idiot! Hell CU fans no more about the Huskers then that moron does! I wonder if OSU fans went this ape **** when Woody Hayes got fired??? :wow: Traidition is a buzz word that I think at times is an excuse for fear of change. Or denial that things need to change but why? We don't need to do anything "It's tradition". Look at Penn St for instance....Joe Pa has been there since man stood upright and just how many NC's has he won? Again are PSU fans that scared to rock the boat in fear of pissing off the "ye ole faithfull" who know's. Obviously the NU President and boosters seem to think Pedey is a good hire. In reality, boosters are what makes or breaks a program anyways.

Dude how clueless are you? Pull your head out of the sand. Shatel is IMO a good writer, fairly down the middle for an NU dominated state.

SP a good hire?..... you are about one of the last 5% to think so. How is that fund raising going? Is the new complex and stadium addition even with in $50 Million of being paid for? you better look up your facts before you answer, donations and the big donors are far less from where they were before the FS firing. SP continues to be a pompous ass at every opportunity. I have no bone to pick with BC, he was only guilty of looking for a job when he fell from the sky and in the end SP is accountable for his public gaffs no different than people I hire should they piss off our customers THE BUCK STOPS WITH ME to correct their actions and behaviors and if I cant I must admit to being wrong and take appropriate actions and lead them out the door. SP has built a little fortress around the Ath Dept and only lets out what info HE deems as righteous.

[Liver]

Dude how clueless are you? Pull your head out of the sand. Shatel is IMO a good writer, fairly down the middle for an NU dominated state.

SP a good hire?..... you are about one of the last 5% to think so. How is that fund raising going? Is the new complex and stadium addition even with in $50 Million of being paid for? you better look up your facts before you answer, donations and the big donors are far less from where they were before the FS firing. SP continues to be a pompous ass at every opportunity. I have no bone to pick with BC, he was only guilty of looking for a job when he fell from the sky and in the end SP is accountable for his public gaffs no different than people I hire should they piss off our customers THE BUCK STOPS WITH ME to correct their actions and behaviors and if I cant I must admit to being wrong and take appropriate actions and lead them out the door. SP has built a little fortress around the Ath Dept and only lets out what info HE deems as righteous.

must. resist. agreeing. with. fusker.

must. resist.

must...

aiyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

[Unleash Hell]

must. resist. agreeing. with. fusker.

must. resist.

must...

aiyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

blackshirts has been owned pretty good lately

[dyemeduke]

speaking of more changes at NU - apparently two OL maybe done for next year, one with surgery to achilles and another just quitting the team. As a guy on netbuffs said, good luck to the players, but **** the huskers.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Dude how clueless are you? Pull your head out of the sand. Shatel is IMO a good writer, fairly down the middle for an NU dominated state.

SP a good hire?..... you are about one of the last 5% to think so. How is that fund raising going? Is the new complex and stadium addition even with in $50 Million of being paid for? you better look up your facts before you answer, donations and the big donors are far less from where they were before the FS firing. SP continues to be a pompous ass at every opportunity. I have no bone to pick with BC, he was only guilty of looking for a job when he fell from the sky and in the end SP is accountable for his public gaffs no different than people I hire should they piss off our customers THE BUCK STOPS WITH ME to correct their actions and behaviors and if I cant I must admit to being wrong and take appropriate actions and lead them out the door. SP has built a little fortress around the Ath Dept and only lets out what info HE deems as righteous.

Holy ****! What does it say about me that I go to give Waylon some rep for this little gem, only to be met by...YMSSR? I feel the need to put on a CU shirt....

[Blackshirts]

blackshirts has been owned pretty good lately

Why? Because I don't read into all the Bullshit Tom Shatel is spewing?? Call me a non conformist! :thumbsup:

[ladyblaise]

Holy ****! What does it say about me that I go to give Waylon some rep for this little gem, only to be met by...YMSSR? I feel the need to put on a CU shirt....

his take that an ad is where the buck stops is spot on. that is almost repworthy...

[Waylon Van Smack]

it saga continues....... the split is now far more public, this week there was a "official" FB alumni golf tourney put on by Steve Pedersen and an "alternative" golf tourney that raised funds for a local charity and somehow was also tied to Doak Ostergard mentioned earlier in this post. The alternative event doubled the attendance and had the names of husker lore supporting it, the official event was almost a bust. the golf outing was held in Lincoln but the festivities for the alternative event were held in Omaha Wed, Thurs, Fri with several charity events rolled into a big freaking party at several Omaha nightclubs complete with an Omaha radio station broadcasting live as all the former greats got a little lit and became lose tongued about their feelings. Tommie Frazier has had no contact from or with SP thats TOMMIE FREAKING FRAZIER, the ultimate legend for NU sports, many other players got on the open mic and voiced their..... and I am not exaggerating here...... disgust for what is going on in the AD. all the players are stating they don't even feel welcome to come around anymore, not many are blaming Cally mostly focused on SP. this is the 10 year aniv of the 97 NC and nobody from that team has been contacted about anything with regards to a get together or halftime honoring or anything.

I am also copying an article about the same..... it is sad to see the split getting wider.

this rift is finally being acknowledged by the TV media although they portray it as new news
http://www.ketv.com/bigredzone/11862337/detail.html

NU Athletics: History focus of alternate golf event
BY LEE BARFKNECHT
WORLD-HERALD BUREAU



LINCOLN - Tongue-biting was popular Friday at a gathering of about 150 former Nebraska football players.

Questions about whether this alternate golf tournament - opposite a Lettermen's Club event sponsored by the athletic department - was a statement of protest about the current administration or football coaches generally went unanswered.

Trev Alberts, the 1993 Butkus Award winner, politely declined to comment.

Same for Tommie Frazier, the 1995 Heisman Trophy runner-up, who said: "I don't follow it much anymore."

Former walk-on offensive lineman Matt Vrzal, who helped organize the event at Lincoln's HiMark Golf Course, also kept quiet, other than to say he's hopeful that an organization of former football players can be created.

Then along came Broderick Thomas.

The two-time All-American and a finalist for the 1988 Butkus and Lombardi Awards hasn't changed his outspoken ways.

Thomas said he has lost sleep over Nebraska's 19-15 record against Division I opponents the past three years under coach Bill Callahan, and is uncomfortable with how the school has "turned away from the tradition" built by Bob Devaney, Tom Osborne and Frank Solich.

"Coach Devaney is kicking his casket, like 'What's going on?'" Thomas said. "At some point, everybody is going to be held accountable.

"It shouldn't take as long as it is today. This is the University of Nebraska. This is not Wisconsin."

Thomas, who played in the NFL and now runs a sports and entertainment agency in Houston, said the former Huskers he talks with are worried about Nebraska's place in the college football power structure.

"Some alumni, you can't even print what they want to say," he said.

So why haven't more former players spoken out?

"We believe in our tradition," Thomas said, "and that our tradition will override any crisis we have at the University of Nebraska.

"I've told our alumni, 'Don't worry. The good Lord will shake this tree, and the leaves that don't belong will fall to the ground.'"

Former Nebraska head coach Tom Osborne spent about 15 minutes Friday discussing the tradition of Husker football.

In the audience were former coaches Barney Cotton, Marvin Sanders, George Darlington, Ron Brown, Jack Pierce and John Melton, and players such as 1972 Heisman winner Johnny Rodgers, Michael Booker, Tracey Wistrom, Joel Makovicka, Jon Hesse, Henry Waechter and Mitch Krenk.

Before speaking, Osborne handed out a sheet of facts concerning 42 seasons of NU football from 1962 through 2003 - the Devaney-Osborne-Solich era.
"You can't be a teacher without a handout," joked Osborne, who now teaches classes at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln College of Business Administration.

The sheet showed Nebraska with the nation's best overall winning percentage in that period - .822 with Ohio State next at .753 - and an average record of 9.9 wins and 2.1 losses a season."Over time, you create a culture," said Osborne, citing work ethic, loyalty, continuity, honesty and physical football as the trademarks of Husker football."That's why most of you are here today, and I wanted to let you know that I appreciate you and appreciate what you've done and appreciate what Nebraska football means to me and so many people around the state."

The "tricky" thing from Friday, Osborne said, was how the alternate event may be perceived.

"Because we are here today, some people will try to make this into something it really isn't," he said. "Whatever we do here should be positive and proactive and an attempt to continue this tradition as best we can."

Osborne said he attended the alternate event to show support for football trainer Doak Ostergard, who was dismissed in February without public explanation after 18 years at the school.

Originally, Osborne wasn't invited to the athletic department event. He said Friday that he later received an invitation letter from Athletic Director Steve Pederson and Callahan.

Even if former players disagree with the direction of Nebraska football, Osborne said, communication remains vital.

"I'm not in favor of breaking communication or leading a revolt." he said. "But simply saying this is important - to the state and to a lot of former players."

In keeping with that theme, all those at the alternate event were offered plain black T-shirts with two words printed in white lettering: "The Program."

• NOTES: Neither Cotton nor Sanders is currently in coaching. Both lost their jobs in November during coaching changes at Iowa State and North Carolina, respectively. . . . Among some of the later arrivals at the alternate event were Mike Minter, Mike Rucker, Jay Foreman, Steve Taylor and Lawrence Pete. . . . About 75 people were at the athletic department golf event. The participation list included Will Shields, Neil Smith, Van Brownson, Barry Alvarez, Milt Tenopir, Derrie Nelson and Jay Moore.

[canuck_buff]

Have to say Waylon if Peterson's doing this ****, he needs to be run out of town on a rail. To not honor the past is pathetic ands in Huskers care that is even more so. **** its the only game in the State and is beyond disrepectful to the past.

[ladyblaise]

Have to say Waylon if Peterson's doing this ****, he needs to be run out of town on a rail. To not honor the past is pathetic ands in Huskers care that is even more so. **** its the only game in the State and is beyond disrepectful to the past.

its interesting as his arrival at nu was quite different. he was talking up tradition, history, and everything evil red.

[Waylon Van Smack]

its interesting as his arrival at nu was quite different. he was talking up tradition, history, and everything evil red.



Have to say Waylon if Peterson's doing this ****, he needs to be run out of town on a rail. To not honor the past is pathetic ands in Huskers care that is even more so. **** its the only game in the State and is beyond disrepectful to the past.


The part that absolutely floors me is the willingness of many fans to follow blindly, drinking kool-aide and focusing solely on the future..... to just win. Not to get on a soapbox here but to me NU always was more than just winning, it was the pursuit of something excellent and winning was a bi-product of that.... I know, I know TO sold his soul, bla bla, hidden gun, LP... whatever...... take a tour of any of the popular husker message boards, hell I have been run from one for basically saying what I just did in the first two sentences. I do not hold Cally accountable for this situation, as I have said before he was only guilty of looking for a job, SP needs to be guiding him with respect to the public persona of things at NU, the throatslash, effin hillbillies at the end of the day it is SP that needs to manage BC and be a bridge to the tremendous past NU is very lucky to have. This staff was given a daunting task to turn NU into a modern O and for my money BC has done a very good job. The more time goes by the more I dislike the public face of NU, SP is not who he said he was and IMO is not Representative of how most Nebraskans think, feel or just simply are.

With all that being said, NU stands at the brink of becoming a national power again and for me and a growing number of NU fans it is just not as fun as it was in the 90's and there is a disconnect..... if this is the way NU has to handle their business to get "back" it is strictly comes down to how much they have to spend to buy it..... not earn it from doing things the Nebraska way. I dont mean to be preaching from an Ivory Tower here.... just venting, NU had their fair share of problems back then as well (on and off the field) it was just a lot more fun watching that program build back then.

[ladyblaise]

The part that absolutely floors me is the willingness of many fans to follow blindly, drinking kool-aide and focusing solely on the future..... to just win. Not to get on a soapbox here but to me NU always was more than just winning, it was the pursuit of something excellent and winning was a bi-product of that.... I know, I know TO sold his soul, bla bla, hidden gun, LP... whatever...... take a tour of any of the popular husker message boards, hell I have been run from one for basically saying what I just did in the first two sentences. I do not hold Cally accountable for this situation, as I have said before he was only guilty of looking for a job, SP needs to be guiding him with respect to the public persona of things at NU, the throatslash, effin hillbillies at the end of the day it is SP that needs to manage BC and be a bridge to the tremendous past NU is very lucky to have. This staff was given a daunting task to turn NU into a modern O and for my money BC has done a very good job. The more time goes by the more I dislike the public face of NU, SP is not who he said he was and IMO is not Representative of how most Nebraskans think, feel or just simply are.

With all that being said, NU stands at the brink of becoming a national power again and for me and a growing number of NU fans it is just not as fun as it was in the 90's and there is a disconnect..... if this is the way NU has to handle their business to get "back" it is strictly comes down to how much they have to spend to buy it..... not earn it from doing things the Nebraska way. I dont mean to be preaching from an Ivory Tower here.... just venting, NU had their fair share of problems back then as well (on and off the field) it was just a lot more fun watching that program build back then.


1. most of what you said was actually good.
2. the part about being on the brink of being a national power is kinda funny. try winning a conference championship before predicting that the skers are back, mmmmmkay? :wink2: in other words, "woah horsie!"

[exxon]

I remember going to Lincoln for the CU NU game in 04. At halftime I heard the whole freakin stadium erupt in boos. I asked the fusker next to me what or who they were booing. The guy pointed to the big screen. I guess the AD had walked out for a halftime ceremony. I went down to get a drink and talked to some older fans(probably boosters) and they said that they weren't happy with how everything was going down since pederson took over. So this has been brewing for a while now. Pederson had better hope throat slash wins the big 12 this year or they will be calling for his head.

And one more thing. It still doesnt look right seeing NU passing the ball so much.

[Waylon Van Smack]

1. most of what you said was actually good.
2. the part about being on the brink of being a national power is kinda funny. try winning a conference championship before predicting that the skers are back, mmmmmkay? :wink2: in other words, "woah horsie!"
I see your point, (#2) I might be going off half-cocked but the talent on this team is the best it has been since 97 IMO is what I really mean, they should be able to compete, should return to the top 20 if not top 15, to me that is a return to some sort of national power, maybe not by winning CCG or NC but to believe they can beat any team they face if they play to their ability, it has been some time since I could say or feel that.... at the end of the day will that translate into wins?.... no, Cally still has a chance to get in his own way :thumbsup: but I like what I see. and thanks (#1).

[ladyblaise]

I see your point, (#2) I might be going off half-cocked but the talent on this team is the best it has been since 97 IMO is what I really mean, they should be able to compete, should return to the top 20 if not top 15, to me that is a return to some sort of national power, maybe not by winning CCG or NC but to believe they can beat any team they face if they play to their ability, it has been some time since I could say or feel that.... at the end of the day will that translate into wins?.... no, Cally still has a chance to get in his own way :thumbsup: but I like what I see. and thanks (#1).

yep! :thumbsup:

[Waylon Van Smack]

(Cally thinking) hummmmmmm........... while all focus is on Purify, do you think we might be able to slip this one past?

http://journalstar.com/articles/2007/05/10/huskerextra/doc4642b0f966259672271357.txt

the real reason Doak was let go?

[Lt.Col.FrankSlade]

WTF??



Mayer said of Callahan. “He got the most out of our guys while he was there (in Oakland).”

[96 Buff]

Mayer said of Callahan. “He got the most out of our guys while he was there (in Oakland).” WTF??

If that was the most out of their guys, then ****er football is in great shape. Woohoo!

[Scotch]

:sucks:

Hey uh, I don't mean to be a dick, but why the **** is it when I enter the CU FOOTBALL FORUM the first two threads are about the fuskers? :wtf: Shouldn't this thread be in the Pub? :pissed:

[ladyblaise]

(Cally thinking) hummmmmmm........... while all focus is on Purify, do you think we might be able to slip this one past?

http://journalstar.com/articles/2007/05/10/huskerextra/doc4642b0f966259672271357.txt

the real reason Doak was let go?

mayer, meet the booger eater... :lol:

he is another brainiac.