Quarterbacks

[sackman]

Last year at this time, we had three quarterbacks vying for the starting job. We were told that no starter would be named in the Spring, and that the job would be won (or lost) in Fall Camp. Competition is a good thing, it keeps everybody working hard. By the time Fall Camp was halfway finished, there was no clear cut favorite, and Hawkins named James Cox the starter. After a miserable outing against MSU, he was replaced by Bernard Jackson, who was limited to 15% of the playbook (or so we've been told). The third option, the one most of us thought was going to be the guy, transferred...

OK, now here we are in Spring drills with three quarterbacks all vying for the starting job. We're being told that none of them will be named the starter in Spring, and that the job will be won (or lost) in Fall Camp. Competition is a good thing, it keeps everybody working hard...


Do you see where I'm going with this? I would prefer to have a starter named at the conclusion of Spring drills. I am of the opinion that we would have done better last year had Brian White simply been named the starter at the beginning of Fall Camp and gotten the majority of snaps throughout camp. But he didn't. Whoever is the starter THIS year will have the same issue going into the season.

[Hank]

Just because last year's QB performance was terrible does not mean that the selection process was flawed. I would blame it more on the fact that we did not have a legitimate QB on the roster.

2 of the 3 QB's being considered this spring are different people.

[sackman]

Fair enough, but I can see this happening every year. Next year we have Ballenger in the mix with the potential for Landry Jones as well. Do we open up the competition again in the Spring and Fall? At what point do we say "This is our guy and he needs as many reps in practice as possible"?

[absinthe]

Did he run the broncos this way? if so the system seemed to work for Ryan Dinwidie and JZ

[sackman]

Did he run the broncos this way? if so the system seemed to work for Ryan Dinwidie and JZ

I have no idea how he ran things at BSU, but I suspect he isn't changing things much. But here's something to consider. Had Jared Zabransky been forced to compete for the starting QB job this year, how would they have done? Hell, maybe he was forced to compete for the job for all I know. He was the QB in 2005 as well.

[Junction]

I have no idea how he ran things at BSU, but I suspect he isn't changing things much. But here's something to consider. Had Jared Zabransky been forced to compete for the starting QB job this year, how would they have done? Hell, maybe he was forced to compete for the job for all I know. He was the QB in 2005 as well.

And there is the point, I think. He was the quarterback in 2005, and he was competent. At this point, we haven't seen Hawk in the position of having an adequate starting QB return at CU. Klatt was gone in 2006 and BJax begs for an upgrade now. Both springs he has been here, Hawk has been in the position of having to try to identify the best QB on the roster to start. He hasn't had the luxury of handing somebody the reins and letting them take most of the reps yet. I don't recall hearing anything about any quarterback controversy or competition at BSU last year (although admittedly I wasn't really listening for one...)

[sackman]

Alright. I'm not going to really argue the point too much, as I'm not as close to the situation as the coaches are. On balance, I think we'd be better off going into Fall camp with the starter named, barring injury. It gives the O-line more reps with the QB. It gives the WR's more time to learn the QB's tendencies. It helps get everybody on the same page earlier, so that executing the offense becomes instinctive.


Gah. whatever. I just hope they're able to pull their **** together this year better than last year.

[Liver]

this year in spring, we have a juco transfer who is just learning the offense but who has had success previously. we have a running qb who didn't succeed as the starter last year. and, we have a rs-frosh who has never played a down at the college level but who knows the offense and was fairly highly regarded. it isn't fair to nelson to compare him heads up on knowledge of the offense to cody. we've pretty much already seen what jax brings and i think it is safe to say he is out of the mix for starter. they want to give nelson a fair shot to learn the offense and win the job and that probably means going into fall ball.

last year, in the spring, we had cox, who had flailed horribly in the bowl game and his previous other live action; white, who never played a down and got very few reps in practice; and jax who had made 17 position switches. all 3 were new to the offense. none were going to have the playbook down in spring. none were proven. in the fall, none established himself in practice, so they named cox starter by default. he flailed again in live action. white was in the major doghouse for not signalling in plays during the game and for not having a good enough grasp of the offense. out of frustration, they went with jax and white quit.

comparing the 2 situations, we are in better shape this year, eh? hopefully...

[Junction]

Alright. I'm not going to really argue the point too much, as I'm not as close to the situation as the coaches are. On balance, I think we'd be better off going into Fall camp with the starter named, barring injury. It gives the O-line more reps with the QB. It gives the WR's more time to learn the QB's tendencies. It helps get everybody on the same page earlier, so that executing the offense becomes instinctive.


Gah. whatever. I just hope they're able to pull their **** together this year better than last year.

I agree with you 100% - I'd much prefer to see one guy be able to start building some consistency with the rest of the offense. It would be great if one guy would step up and grab the job by the throat this spring so that can happen.

I really can't wait until we're going into the spring with a stud returning QB. Hopefully that's in 2008...

[SpacemanSpiff]

this year in spring, we have a juco transfer who is just learning the offense but who has had success previously. we have a running qb who didn't succeed as the starter last year. and, we have a rs-frosh who has never played a down at the college level but who knows the offense and was fairly highly regarded. it isn't fair to nelson to compare him heads up on knowledge of the offense to cody. we've pretty much already seen what jax brings and i think it is safe to say he is out of the mix for starter. they want to give nelson a fair shot to learn the offense and win the job and that probably means going into fall ball.

last year, in the spring, we had cox, who had flailed horribly in the bowl game and his previous other live action; white, who never played a down and got very few reps in practice; and jax who had made 17 position switches. all 3 were new to the offense. none were going to have the playbook down in spring. none were proven. in the fall, none established himself in practice, so they named cox starter by default. he flailed again in live action. white was in the major doghouse for not signalling in plays during the game and for not having a good enough grasp of the offense. out of frustration, they went with jax and white quit.

comparing the 2 situations, we are in better shape this year, eh? hopefully...

I think that is a good synopsis of where we are and how we got there. Despite the uncertainty, I'm more happy about our overall QB talent pool now, than at any time in the recent past. The Big 12 can be tough on QB's, so having a backup or two that you actually trust, is a good thing, because odds are we'll need him at some point. I really think that Nelson will be our starting QB, with Cody as the backup. Regardless of who the starting QB is, I believe that we'll see B-Jax used in a set of packages that enable him to line up at RB/QB/WR and run a variety of plays (think Tebow at Florida, McFadden at Arkansas, etc). I think that is Hawk's hope.

[Mick Ronson]

i think splitting the snaps 3 ways is counter-productive come Fall practice.....pick two guys and have them split reps right off the bat and then you have to make a decision. the dif b/ween 33% and 50% has to be a lot.

but, again, there's probably a reason i'm not coaching football or playing 3rd base in the big leagues. I've yet to figure it out. though, i imagine it exists.

[SpacemanSpiff]

the dif b/ween 33% and 50% has to be a lot.


gotta be something like 17%:smile2:

[FChairbanks]

this year in spring, we have a juco transfer who is just learning the offense but who has had success previously. we have a running qb who didn't succeed as the starter last year. and, we have a rs-frosh who has never played a down at the college level but who knows the offense and was fairly highly regarded. it isn't fair to nelson to compare him heads up on knowledge of the offense to cody. we've pretty much already seen what jax brings and i think it is safe to say he is out of the mix for starter. they want to give nelson a fair shot to learn the offense and win the job and that probably means going into fall ball.

last year, in the spring, we had cox, who had flailed horribly in the bowl game and his previous other live action; white, who never played a down and got very few reps in practice; and jax who had made 17 position switches. all 3 were new to the offense. none were going to have the playbook down in spring. none were proven. in the fall, none established himself in practice, so they named cox starter by default. he flailed again in live action. white was in the major doghouse for not signalling in plays during the game and for not having a good enough grasp of the offense. out of frustration, they went with jax and white quit.

comparing the 2 situations, we are in better shape this year, eh? hopefully...

white made a better showing than cox in the bowl game, so saying he never played a down isn't quite right. i agree that the major competition for starter is between nelson and hawkins, but i hope they find a spot for jax to get into the offense under specialty situations this fall.

[SJBuff]

Fair enough, but I can see this happening every year. Next year we have Ballenger in the mix with the potential for Landry Jones as well. Do we open up the competition again in the Spring and Fall? At what point do we say "This is our guy and he needs as many reps in practice as possible"?

I agree whole heartedly that we need to get a qb for our O that has built some cohesion with the other starters and the only way you get that is through a lot of reps, but I'm also wary of putting all our eggs in one basket. To name a guy now and give him the majority of the reps/coaching attention may help us a bunch for next season but it will leave us really exposed with an inadequate back up. It was exactly this philosophy that drove me nuts under GB & short bus because the starter got the majority of the reps and coaching attention but they failed to bring along any of the back ups. So when MM or Ochs or Klatt went down we were always left with some unseasoned rookie who knew 10% of the O because he only got 10 minutes of practice running the offense a week. I'm okay with Hawk going this route for now. I would like him to have a starter named by the end of the first week of fall camp so that we can build that cohesion among the starters.

[DustyRhodes]

I see your point sackman, but I am of the opinion that Hawk knows what he's doing.

[Mick Ronson]

gotta be something like 17%:smile2:

smarty pants. more like 16.6 %. sticks tongue out....and wiggles fingers on top of head. and your mother smells of elderberries!

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9381/kniggits5hw.jpg

[Buffaz]

I agree whole heartedly that we need to get a qb for our O that has built some cohesion with the other starters and the only way you get that is through a lot of reps, but I'm also wary of putting all our eggs in one basket. To name a guy now and give him the majority of the reps/coaching attention may help us a bunch for next season but it will leave us really exposed with an inadequate back up. It was exactly this philosophy that drove me nuts under GB & short bus because the starter got the majority of the reps and coaching attention but they failed to bring along any of the back ups. So when MM or Ochs or Klatt went down we were always left with some unseasoned rookie who knew 10% of the O because he only got 10 minutes of practice running the offense a week. I'm okay with Hawk going this route for now. I would like him to have a starter named by the end of the first week of fall camp so that we can build that cohesion among the starters.

Agree SJ. Coach Helfrich had a string of qb injuries at ASU, but he always had a backup qb ready to step up and play well. Walters, Keller and Carpenter were thrown into the fire and kept their offenses going. Besides coaching them up, Helfrich also recruited D1 qbs. Barnett/Watson failed on both fronts. Hawkins/Helfrich are addressing the qb issue, but it will take time to fill the qb gap.

Go Buffs!!! Go Hawk!!!:cool:

[absinthe]

I fart in your general direction.

[BuckinFuffs]

I see your point sackman, but I am of the opinion that Hawk knows what he's doing.
agreed. there has to be a process to 'split' time or no one woujld want to risk coming for fear that the roster is set. hawk is not new to this... he will do what it takes to get the competitive fire stoked, and the right guy quality snaps before the season starts...

[sackman]

agreed. there has to be a process to 'split' time or no one woujld want to risk coming for fear that the roster is set. hawk is not new to this... he will do what it takes to get the competitive fire stoked, and the right guy quality snaps before the season starts...

I guess I feel like the time to "split" is in Spring ball. Once Fall camp rolls around I'd feel a lot better if we had a starter named.

[DustyRhodes]

What's the word out of spring camp? Who's your Ace under center? Not the official word from hawk either, cuz he'll say it's open for competition. but what you guys are thinking, reading, seeing, etc.

[sackman]

What's the word out of spring camp? Who's your Ace under center? Not the official word from hawk either, cuz he'll say it's open for competition. but what you guys are thinking, reading, seeing, etc.

Article this morning said B-Jax is basically out of the mix and is playing WR. Nelson has "hit the wall" and that of the three, Lil Hawk has the best grasp of the system. By most accounts, this is now a two-man race, with Lil Hawk in a slight lead.

[SJBuff]

I guess I feel like the time to "split" is in Spring ball. Once Fall camp rolls around I'd feel a lot better if we had a starter named.

Totally agree. If a starter isn't named by the end of "fall camp" (essentially the first week of practices in the fall) I'm going to start bitching. Who ever ends up being the guy is still going to need a ton of work before the lammie game and it would help a lot if he had 70% of the snaps in the two weeks before the game.

[exxon]

Hey who knows. I think Nick will be the starter vs CSewe. But Cody will put up a fight. I found this on Cody from the Elite 11 article.

Cody Hawkins - With his size (5-11, 175 pounds), where he comes from (Boise, Idaho) and lack of big-time offers, Hawkins is probably the quarterback on the list who the casual fan probably assumes doesn't belong. That is understandable, but anyone who saw Hawkins throw at the NIKE Camp in Stanford or the EA SPORTS Elite 11 workout the following day at Cal, they know this isn't a reach. Simply stated, at any of the 12 NIKE Camps, Hawkins had the most impressive workout of anyone on the list with the possible exception of Mustain. The Idaho native has a live arm, great feet, an incredible head for the game and his intangibles like leadership and the ability to rally players around him are off the charts.

[Buffarino]

his intangibles like leadership and the ability to rally players around him are off the charts.

That's something this offense sorely needs. A leader.

[BlackNGold]

I don't think it is the selection process but rather the lack of a clear leader. I remember one old coach saying if you have a QB controversy it means that you don't have a QB. That no one is distancing themselves could mean the QB talent is not at the level that we want.

I will watch the spring game with much interest.

[Lord Helmet]

I don't think it is the selection process but rather the lack of a clear leader. I remember one old coach saying if you have a QB controversy it means that you don't have a QB. That no one is distancing themselves could mean the QB talent is not at the level that we want.

I will watch the spring game with much interest.

I will be very much interested in your thoughts of the game and the qb play. Looking forward to a report! (and hopefully a positive one):thumbsup:

[PhillyBuff]

Hey Sacky.

**** off. :cool:

[77buff]

I agree with you 100% - I'd much prefer to see one guy be able to start building some consistency with the rest of the offense. It would be great if one guy would step up and grab the job by the throat this spring so that can happen.

I really can't wait until we're going into the spring with a stud returning QB. Hopefully that's in 2008...
The reason all of this is happening is because our overall team talent level is poor - almost at every position. The coaches don't come out and say this directly, but it is indirectly said when they openly stated that they expect all of the receivers in the last recruiting class to see plenty of playing time this season. These guys haven't even stepped on the practice field, and won't until fall. That says alot about what the coaches think about the talent of our veterans. We are still 2 or 3 recruiting classes away from contending - we have to give Hawkins time.

[sackman]

Hey Sacky.

**** off. :cool:

OK. I'll get right on that. Anything else I can do for you?

[DBT]

OK. I'll get right on that. Anything else I can do for you?

What does "**** off" mean, exactly? :huh:

[exxon]

http://www.angelspit.net/hairsurgeon/Store/images/pin-****-off.gif

[PhillyBuff]

that was my welcome back.... thought ball sacky was into the whole offseason "****" mode.

[sackman]

that was my welcome back.... thought ball sacky was into the whole offseason "****" mode.

Well in that case, I won't **** off. You, however, can go **** yourself.

[SJBuff]

The reason all of this is happening is because our overall team talent level is poor - almost at every position. The coaches don't come out and say this directly, but it is indirectly said when they openly stated that they expect all of the receivers in the last recruiting class to see plenty of playing time this season. These guys haven't even stepped on the practice field, and won't until fall. That says alot about what the coaches think about the talent of our veterans. We are still 2 or 3 recruiting classes away from contending - we have to give Hawkins time.

I was thinking the same thing. As much as I hate to admit it I think this season will be another throw away season. We are just beginning to get the kind of talent we need to compete at the national level and almost none of it has any experience. At this point I'd be delighted with a 6-6 '07 campaign and I think expecting more than that given our talent level is unrealistic(that 's not to say I don't want more, I do, I just don't expect more - yet). I think this season will be one with a lot of young guys cutting their teeth so that we can be solid in '08 and a contender in '09.

[MiamiBuffs]

I was thinking the same thing. As much as I hate to admit it I think this season will be another throw away season. We are just beginning to get the kind of talent we need to compete at the national level and almost none of it has any experience. At this point I'd be delighted with a 6-6 '07 campaign and I think expecting more than that given our talent level is unrealistic(that 's not to say I don't want more, I do, I just don't expect more - yet). I think this season will be one with a lot of young guys cutting their teeth so that we can be solid in '08 and a contender in '09.


Agreed!

Neuheisels teams had more talent when people were calling for Zac Colvin to get the start. This team has a lot bigger problems than just the QB position. My bet is BJax gets the nod so that Hawk can keep the current depth chart for the future intact.

[sackman]

Agreed!
My bet is BJax gets the nod so that Hawk can keep the current depth chart for the future intact.

Based on what I'm hearing out of Spring ball, that doesn't seem very likely. Apparently, they're lining B-Jax up at WR again.

[chipwich]

Cody will start.

Chipwich has spoken.

That is all.

[Lt.Col.FrankSlade]

Agreed!

Neuheisels teams had more talent when people were calling for Zac Colvin to get the start. This team has a lot bigger problems than just the QB position. My bet is BJax gets the nod so that Hawk can keep the current depth chart for the future intact.


My bet is BJax is moved permanently to WR before spring ball ends.

[SJBuff]

My bet is BJax is moved permanently to WR before spring ball ends.

It makes a lot of sense. You know how Hawk likes the trickery and if Bjax is on the field we essentially have two Qbs in on the play. If we can shift Bjax to under center on some plays it gives us a dimension of trick plays that we haven't had in a long time. We just need Bjax to be a productive WR in the regular set so they won't be looking for the trick play everytime he comes in.

[JJBuff]

How about this prediction:

BJax will start at WR against CSU.

From what I have seen in practice, he's as good at catching the ball as anyone they currently have. Now that either says a lot about him or very little about our current WRs.

[Lt.Col.FrankSlade]

How about this prediction:

BJax will start at WR against CSU.

From what I have seen in practice, he's as good at catching the ball as anyone they currently have. Now that either says a lot about him or very little about our current WRs.


I'm not sure of that.

While I admire Jackson's work ethic and dedication - I just don't think he's all that special of an athlete. Certainly, he is more mobile than the other two QBs vying for the starting job - but his passing is clearly a liability, as is his ability to remember/adapt to the playbook. But beyond that- to me he doesn't seem all that talented as a playmaker. I don't remember ever seeing him outrun anyone. I don't remember ever seeing him take a play 70+ yards for a TD.

As much as I like Jackson- I am REALLY hoping that these freshmen who are set to arrive in Boulder in a few months can catch, can run routes, and can do something with the football in their hands.

[Liver]

I'm not sure of that.

While I admire Jackson's work ethic and dedication - I just don't think he's all that special of an athlete. Certainly, he is more mobile than the other two QBs vying for the starting job - but his passing is clearly a liability, as is his ability to remember/adapt to the playbook. But beyond that- to me he doesn't seem all that talented as a playmaker. I don't remember ever seeing him outrun anyone. I don't remember ever seeing him take a play 70+ yards for a TD.

As much as I like Jackson- I am REALLY hoping that these freshmen who are set to arrive in Boulder in a few months can catch, can run routes, and can do something with the football in their hands.

actually, bjack is very good with the ball in his hands. and he did have like a 50 or 60 yard run up the middle last season. i agree that he hasn't shown the ability to pass or to operate the offense that we need, but you are way offbase on your comment that he is not all that talented. his talent and playmaking are why he's shifted positions 5 or 6 times-- he is a very good athlete and both this staff and the last wanted to find ways to use him. but, he's been shifted around so much, it has really hurt his development.

he's very good in space with the ball-- very elusive, very tough runner, and he has a good burst and good top end speed.

in the right offense, he'd be a pretty good qb. with enough reps at wr, he would have been a good wr. he's not a rb, imho, but he could definitely have been a solid kr or pr too.

he'll see the field. he just won't be starting at qb unless disaster strikes.

[Lt.Col.FrankSlade]

I stand corrected - he did have one 62 yard run for a TD last season against KSU.

[Highwalker]

I'm not sure of that.

While I admire Jackson's work ethic and dedication - I just don't think he's all that special of an athlete. Certainly, he is more mobile than the other two QBs vying for the starting job - but his passing is clearly a liability, as is his ability to remember/adapt to the playbook. But beyond that- to me he doesn't seem all that talented as a playmaker. I don't remember ever seeing him outrun anyone. I don't remember ever seeing him take a play 70+ yards for a TD.

As much as I like Jackson- I am REALLY hoping that these freshmen who are set to arrive in Boulder in a few months can catch, can run routes, and can do something with the football in their hands.

BJ outran the entire KSUcks D on about a 70 yard run last year.

[DBT]

I was thinking the same thing. As much as I hate to admit it I think this season will be another throw away season. We are just beginning to get the kind of talent we need to compete at the national level and almost none of it has any experience. At this point I'd be delighted with a 6-6 '07 campaign and I think expecting more than that given our talent level is unrealistic(that 's not to say I don't want more, I do, I just don't expect more - yet). I think this season will be one with a lot of young guys cutting their teeth so that we can be solid in '08 and a contender in '09.

Pessimist! Hey, CU looks to be GREATLY improved based on spring ball results. Last year they were in every single game into the fourth quarter!

[NW Buff]

Pessimist! Hey, CU looks to be GREATLY improved based on spring ball results. Last year they were in every single game into the fourth quarter!

Last year they were in every game because of the defense. The losses to graduation of defense will hurt us going into next year. I'm not sure about 2-3 recruiting classes away from being a good team but I think we need at least 1 more solid O-Line class plus a year for the line to gel.

Let's face it, it would be hard for this team to NOT look greatly improved compared to last year.

[Highwalker]

Last year they were in every game because of the defense. The losses to graduation of defense will hurt us going into next year. I'm not sure about 2-3 recruiting classes away from being a good team but I think we need at least 1 more solid O-Line class plus a year for the line to gel.

Let's face it, it would be hard for this team to NOT look greatly improved compared to last year.

Welcome to Allbuffs.

I do think the D will be a strength again this year. Losing Abe, JJ, Boye-Doe and Thad hurts but I think there are guys that are capable of replacing them. And even if the O is just mediocre instead of awful, the D will benefit. That said, the schedule this year is brutal.

[NWD Buff]

Last year they were in every game because of the defense. The losses to graduation of defense will hurt us going into next year. I'm not sure about 2-3 recruiting classes away from being a good team but I think we need at least 1 more solid O-Line class plus a year for the line to gel.

Let's face it, it would be hard for this team to NOT look greatly improved compared to last year.

Hey!! What kind of name is that??!!!

[Junction]

Hey!! What kind of name is that??!!!

I think it is some kind of combined homage to you and the Vince Okruch era of CU football... :smile2:

[NW Buff]

Hey!! What kind of name is that??!!!

One that I could think up while bored at work and looking at the rain clouds. Look at the Location under my name and it might make sense.

[NW Buff]

Welcome to Allbuffs.


Thank you for the welcome. Been lurking for a while and I'm long since bored with the dribble over at netbuffs. Community here seems much better. :thumbsup:

[NWD Buff]

One that I could think up while bored at work and looking at the rain clouds. Look at the Location under my name and it might make sense.

Well I figured that out. Just be warned that you run the risk of people confusing you with me. As long as you don't mind being lumped in with the newly unemployed pinko of the board, you will be fine. :lol: :lol:

If I were you, I would change my name to something more unique, like wispy, or Junction.

[Junction]

Thank you for the welcome. Been lurking for a while and I'm long since bored with the dribble over at netbuffs. Community here seems much better. :thumbsup:

The community here is MUCH better. Since you're a netbuffs refugee from Orygun :lol: , I have to ask - would you be the artist formerly known as Portland?

[4DemBuffs]

Last year they were in every game because of the defense. The losses to graduation of defense will hurt us going into next year. I'm not sure about 2-3 recruiting classes away from being a good team but I think we need at least 1 more solid O-Line class plus a year for the line to gel.

Let's face it, it would be hard for this team to NOT look greatly improved compared to last year.

:wave: :gobuffs:

welcome NW! :smile2:

[NW Buff]

The community here is MUCH better. Since you're a netbuffs refugee from Orygun :lol: , I have to ask - would you be the artist formerly known as Portland?

I am not the artist known as Portland, although I've always wondered which Buff fan at the watch parties that one was. I have posted as Buffnstuff on netbuffs and buffbackers in the past. Tired of that handle, time for something new.

Not sure I want to be confused with unemployed pinkos (I thought there was no unemployment in communism), but I'll stick with it for now.

On to the subjects at hand...

I'm originally from NM, so I was bummed we didn't get Jones. Artesia is in a part of the state that is basically West Texas, so I wasn't surprised. Most kids over there look at the Texas schools as in-state.

QB this year. I don't give a rip who it is but I want somebody to step up and seize the reigns of the program. I'd like to see one player win the position outright rather than the coaching staff picking "the best we got".

In my opinion CU is still at least another year away from significant improvement. At the very least, the O-Line class that is coming in needs a year of learning and coordination. Flashy skill players are fine, but games are won and lost along the line.

[NWD Buff]

Not sure I want to be confused with unemployed pinkos (I thought there was no unemployment in communism), but I'll stick with it for now.



A pinko is not necessarily a Communist. (And I'm not actually a Communist sympathizer, even though there are Allbuffers who seem to think so.)

Welcome to the board. Now start dropping some "****s" and "shits" into your posts, newb!

[SuperiorBuff]

I am not the artist known as Portland, although I've always wondered which Buff fan at the watch parties that one was. I have posted as Buffnstuff on netbuffs and buffbackers in the past. Tired of that handle, time for something new.

Not sure I want to be confused with unemployed pinkos (I thought there was no unemployment in communism), but I'll stick with it for now.

On to the subjects at hand...

I'm originally from NM, so I was bummed we didn't get Jones. Artesia is in a part of the state that is basically West Texas, so I wasn't surprised. Most kids over there look at the Texas schools as in-state.

QB this year. I don't give a rip who it is but I want somebody to step up and seize the reigns of the program. I'd like to see one player win the position outright rather than the coaching staff picking "the best we got".

In my opinion CU is still at least another year away from significant improvement. At the very least, the O-Line class that is coming in needs a year of learning and coordination. Flashy skill players are fine, but games are won and lost along the line.

Hey, its been a few years and brain cells but I remember Buffbackers. Welcome! Now get me a ****ing beer.:thumbsup: :smile2:

[Liver]

welcome nw.

don't let the other nwd fool you-- he is a closet stalinist. :lol:

[sackman]

welcome nw.

don't let the other nwd fool you-- he is a closet stalinist. :lol:

He's not a closet stalinist. He's "come out" if you will. A full fledged commie bastard. Probably drives a Subaru.

Welcome NW, it's good to have new folks over here. I'm sure when the football season starts again, you'll see about 10 new posters show up from over there. It happens every year.

[NW Buff]

Hey, its been a few years and brain cells but I remember Buffbackers. Welcome! Now get me a ****ing beer.:thumbsup: :smile2:

Sure, fly me out to Boulder and I'll gladly buy you a beer at the West End Tavern (assuming it's still there). :thumbsup:

[SuperiorBuff]

Sure, fly me out to Boulder and I'll gladly buy you a beer at the West End Tavern (assuming it's still there). :thumbsup:

Ummmm, since I am in Charlotte this week we may need a rain check.:drink2: However, since I haven't eaten today I am going to head to the hotel bar and see what I might eat with a beer. Or maybe just the beer.:huh:

[absinthe]

Sure, fly me out to Boulder and I'll gladly buy you a beer at the West End Tavern (assuming it's still there). :thumbsup:

I think its still there, but there is a building obscuring the once awesome view.

[FChairbanks]

I think its still there, but there is a building obscuring the once awesome view.

it is still there, and you can still see the flatirons from the roof...and they have stone ipa on tap...

:thumbsup:

[SuperiorBuff]

it is still there, and you can still see the flatirons from the roof...and they have stone ipa on tap...

:thumbsup:

I can see the flatirons from my back patio (the top of them), and the 5 miles of open space between, and the beer is in the fridge.:thumbsup: