From Omaha rag, CU picked 10th in B12. Good read.

[Waylon Van Smack]

Football Preview: Hawkins remains bullish on Buffaloes
BY LEE BARFKNECHT
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER



After last football season, Colorado coach Dan Hawkins should know all about pain.

Big 12 Countdown
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• World-Herald staff writer Lee Barfknecht's Big 12 picks:

• 12. Iowa State

• 11. Baylor

• 10. Colorado

• Friday: No. 9 revealed

Linebacker Jordon Dizon is CU's best player, but the Buffs lost their other top three defenders.Hawkins opened his CU career with a home loss to Division I-AA Montana State. The Buffaloes went on to finish 2-10 — the worst mark at the school in 22 years and his first losing season in 11 years as a head coach.

After a triple-overtime home loss to Baylor, Hawkins stayed in his office all night to watch film.

"My wife showed up at 5 in the morning," he said. "We've been married 25 years. She said, 'If you keep doing this, you might not make the next 25.'"

So pain was everywhere.

"It was extremely painful," Hawkins said. "That being said, it was a good pain."

Good pain?

"It's important as a person that you test yourself," he said. "I'm one of those quirky guys who is all about reinventing yourself. I think there is magic and beauty in that.

"I've never been a guy who is all about comfort and luxury. I'm a blue-collar guy. I like it when you have to wake up and earn your way."

With that in mind, Hawkins should love the 2007 season. The Buffaloes will:

• Start a quarterback who has never taken a major-college snap (junior college transfer Nick Nelson or redshirt freshman Cody Hawkins, the coach's son).

• Play a schedule as difficult as any in the Big 12, including home games with Florida State, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Missouri.

• Scramble to replace an All-America place-kicker (Mason Crosby) and three of the four best defensive players.

• Piece together an offensive line rotation after only seven players practiced at those positions in the spring.

"My mind is going 100 miles an hour thinking about solutions and how we get better," Hawkins said. "When we get this thing back to where it needs to be, should be and can be, then we'll sit back and go, 'It was all worth it.'"

Colorado supporters will tell you the Buffaloes weren't as far away from success last season as the record indicates. The 10 losses were by an average of 11 points a game.

CU led at Georgia late in the fourth quarter before losing 14-13; was tied at Nebraska deep into the third quarter before losing 37-14; was eight points behind at Missouri midway through the third quarter before losing 28-13; and was 10 points behind at Oklahoma early in the fourth quarter before losing 24-3.

Said Hawkins: "You don't want to be close to having a good marriage, and you don't want to be close to getting a raise, and you don't want to be close to graduating.

"But we were close. We just couldn't quite finish in a few games last year. But we're stronger and more fortified now."

Colorado at a glance

• Coach: Dan Hawkins, second year, 2-10.

• Best player: LB Jordon Dizon. The second-team All-Big 12 pick and team captain had 137 tackles last year. Hell need to play well to stabilize a defense racked by key graduation losses.

• Best newcomer: OL Ryan Miller. The 6-foot-8, 310-pounder from Littleton, Colo., turned down Notre Dame to stay close to home and help with the rebuilding process.

• Good news: Despite using a new quarterback, the offense will be much more diversified. Coaches say the offense already is operating at a higher level than at any time in 2006. Our game plans last year were very, very limited, coordinator Mark Helfrich told the Boulder Camera.

• Bad news: This program is low on star power and depth. Even with the North Division at its nadir, this looks like at least a four-year project to even get back in the divisional title conversation.

• Key game: Sept. 1 vs. Colorado State in Denver. This program badly needs a shot of confidence. Beating an old rival in the season opener would be great tonic.

• Camp chatter: The offense scored five touchdowns in the first scrimmage, matching the total from last fall in three scrimmages. . . . Kai Maiava, the last player offered a scholarship for 2007, has moved up to No. 1 at right guard. Maiavas father played at CU from 1969 to 1971, and his brother is a junior linebacker at USC. . . . Hawkins refers to his depth chart as the contributor's chart

[FlatironsBuff]

Of course I think that the Buffs will finish higher than 10th in the B12; I rather think that they can make it an interesting mix between MU, NU, and us, but also realise that I have Black and Gold (with Silver frames) glasses on too. Anyway, not a bad read for an article from an Omaha paper. Thanks Waylon.

[InTheBuff]

**** the Omaha World-Herald :gun::gun:

[ladyblaise]

waylon, when are you going to learn that "cu ranked 10th in the big 12" next to the words "good read" are acceptable only on a fuskerboard?

i KNOW that you know better. you have even admitted that the owh is the most homerish paper on the planet. so explain why this is a completely biased report?

sheesh dude.

**** that. FIGHT CU DOWN THE FIELD!

[Waylon Van Smack]

waylon, when are you going to learn that "cu ranked 10th in the big 12" next to the words "good read" are acceptable only on a fuskerboard?

i KNOW that you know better. you have even admitted that the owh is the most homerish paper on the planet. so explain why this is a completely biased report?

sheesh dude.

**** that. FIGHT CU DOWN THE FIELD!

Hawks opinions on things are what I really like about the guy, "he is a good quote" as they say. I dont see where this is a bad read anywhere. ranking 10th was not really the point, thats why they play the games. I thought the Hawkins quotes were good.

your slant is again predictable, fuskerboard, bla bla.... my style is not going to change, regardless of how hypercritical you are, please put me on ignore so you dont have to read my posts.

[KDBuff]

Thanks for the post, I get the point.

[Waylon Van Smack]

NU-cu of 99 is on right now on an Omaha channel. Only in Nebraska..... dog days of summer = Husker reruns, love it.

[Waylon Van Smack]

Of course I think that the Buffs will finish higher than 10th in the B12; I rather think that they can make it an interesting mix between MU, NU, and us, but also realise that I have Black and Gold (with Silver frames) glasses on too. Anyway, not a bad read for an article from an Omaha paper. Thanks Waylon.
Agreed, I think CU does finish higher than 10, IMO the Thanksgiving classic could be for all the marbles of the b12n. MU will find a way to not be in the hunt, I think CU will beat some teams they are not suppose to... we will see.

[DBT]

Agreed, I think CU does finish higher than 10, IMO the Thanksgiving classic could be for all the marbles of the b12n. MU will find a way to not be in the hunt, I think CU will beat some teams they are not suppose to... we will see.

Now, if she could just get that damned bra unhooked! :lol:

[Kameltosis]

Good read indeed. Hawkins has his hands full right now...hope he works it out which I'm thinking he will.

And whatever dude...the OWH roxors :>D

[unbiasedtruth]

reading an article about Colorado in the Omaha paper is like reading a story about OU in the Dallas Morning News. With either and 85 cents I can go to 7/11 and get a cup of coffee......

[buff82]

You mean like reading about OU in a Downs syndrome kids tale book.

[Kameltosis]

No it's not dude...Oklahomos can't read :D

[buff82]

and nebraska shouldn't breed.

[Kameltosis]

and colorado ****s a steed!

[CarolinaBuff]

• Bad news: This program is low on star power and depth. Even with the North Division at its nadir, this looks like at least a four-year project to even get back in the divisional title conversation.


:wtf:
Even if you're not wearing the black and gold glasses it's ridiculous to say that CU is 4 years away from competing for the DIVISIONAL title.

[Kameltosis]

I agree with his statement but not 4 years...I give it 2 seasons

[chipwich]

ranking 10th was not really the point

So that's why it was in the title of the thread.

I call :bs:

[unbiasedtruth]

No it's not dude...Oklahomos can't read :D

still have the Sooners 99 1/2 yard **** up your ass I see.... :smile2:

[ladyblaise]

:wtf:
Even if you're not wearing the black and gold glasses it's ridiculous to say that CU is 4 years away from competing for the DIVISIONAL title.


So that's why it was in the title of the thread.

I call :bs:

but it's such a GOOD article, really! :huh:

if we took waylon's advice, everyone would have him on ignore. face it, husker, i am not the only person here who sees through your hidden agenda behind what you choose to post: from the owh to the homers who are probably still jawing that colorado needs to be "kicked out" of the b12. your game is you attempt to be nice with the flames. it is a game nonetheless.

4 years to compete for a divisional championship is what you think to be a good, fair, and accurate renering of the state of things? pfffft.

as for putting you on ignore, hold your breath. i will continue to point out how tarded your big red view is. it irritates you, and your little comebacks are of little significance.

[unbiasedtruth]

i will continue to point out how tarded your big red view is.

uh.... I think he is talking about the little pink of the Big XII north, there is only ONE Big Red of the Big XII and it is not in the north division....:thumbsup:

[BuffaloScott]

Does anyone else feel like the article was written by a fourth grader?

[FlatironsBuff]

Does anyone else feel like the article was written by a fourth grader?

fourth grader = overachieving Nebraskan Rhodes scholar candidate:smile2:

[Liver]

the folks at pravda would have been proud of that puff piece, waylon.

the Buffs have some real issues, but i do think they will be much improved on last year.

and what the **** is an "omaha WORLD herald"? shouldn't it really be called something like: "omaha-is-the-center-of-the-universe daily fuskerian"?

[Waylon Van Smack]

but it's such a GOOD article, really! :huh:

4 years to compete for a divisional championship is what you think to be a good, fair, and accurate renering of the state of things? pfffft.

.


Looks like little brother syndrome to me. Some Omaha writer says 10th place and 4 years and you can go no further, thats all you see. Hawk had good things to say in a very short article. Many others here catch the jist of it, others would rather cry foul by the fusker poster (as usual). For someone who claims to be a smart person, you look rather foolish again IMO.

[unbiasedtruth]

Looks like little brother syndrome to me. Some Omaha writer says 10th place and 4 years and you can go no further, thats all you see. Hawk had good things to say in a very short article. Many others here catch the jist of it, others would rather cry foul by the fusker poster (as usual). For someone who claims to be a smart person, you look rather foolish again IMO.


you dont get it do you..... no one cares what an omaha sportswriter says about CU. I really doubt he even spoke to Coach Hawkins to get the quotes, probably found them in another article and copied them.

just my 2 cents, but CU and Coach Hawkins will win a Big XII championship before the little pinks of the Big XII north do..... and ol' hillbilly throatslash has a 3 year jump.....

[Waylon Van Smack]

you dont get it do you..... no one cares what an omaha sportswriter says about CU. I really doubt he even spoke to Coach Hawkins to get the quotes, probably found them in another article and copied them.

just my 2 cents, but CU and Coach Hawkins will win a Big XII championship before the little pinks of the Big XII north do..... and ol' hillbilly throatslash has a 3 year jump.....

thank you Mr. Blaise. :thumbsup::smile2:

[Skidmark]

Looks like little brother syndrome to me. Some Omaha writer says 10th place and 4 years and you can go no further, thats all you see. Hawk had good things to say in a very short article. Many others here catch the jist of it, others would rather cry foul by the fusker poster (as usual). For someone who claims to be a smart person, you look rather foolish again IMO.

Isn't "from Omaha rag" & "by Waylon Von Smack" redundant?

[ladyblaise]

Looks like little brother syndrome to me. Some Omaha writer says 10th place and 4 years and you can go no further, thats all you see. Hawk had good things to say in a very short article. Many others here catch the jist of it, others would rather cry foul by the fusker poster (as usual). For someone who claims to be a smart person, you look rather foolish again IMO.

actually, all i needed to see was your headline. typical for you to think an army of allbuffers think that the article is fan-****ing-tastic because you think it is.

from the looks of it, more think the writer, and you, are full of caca.

[ladyblaise]

thank you Mr. Blaise. :thumbsup::smile2:

omg! that was so freeking TOP SHELF! how clevers! did you thunk that all by yourself? or did it take a husker collective? :lol:

if anything productive could come of a husker collective... :huh:

[Liver]

is the author's last name really barfknecht?

how freaking apropos!

from now on, all ****-for-brains 'tard homer fusker "reporters" in 5th rate markets in 10th rate states covering a has-been team like the fuskers shall be known to me as BARFNECKS.

"did you see what the fusker barfneck wrote today?"

perfect.

[Big Red Cop]

If you knew anything about Lee Barfbucket, he is anything but a Nebraska Homer. He is a big time KSU fan! Nebraska fans can't stand his smug attitude, not to mention the porno-stache he sports!

[Big Red Cop]

http://net.unl.edu/sportsFeat/images/wuco_bar2.jpg

[ladyblaise]

is the author's last name really barfknecht?

how freaking apropos!

from now on, all ****-for-brains 'tard homer fusker "reporters" in 5th rate markets in 10th rate states covering a has-been team like the fuskers shall be known to me as BARFNECKS.

"did you see what the fusker barfneck wrote today?"

perfect.

and thus, it came to pass that the famed brainpower behind the term "gleebsnark" created the term "barfnecks". :lol:

i am on board :thumbsup:

[MiamiBuffs]

I agree with his statement but not 4 years...I give it 2 seasons

I guess they are factoring in that the defense will have to be rebuilt due to graduation after their done with the offense? Doesn't make sense to me. If he continues to recruit AND coach like we think he can then we should be a contender in two years.

[Kameltosis]

Agreed Miami...

Some people in here...on both sides of the fence act really childish sometimes

[ladyblaise]

I guess they are factoring in that the defense will have to be rebuilt due to graduation after their done with the offense? Doesn't make sense to me. If he continues to recruit AND coach like we think he can then we should be a contender in two years.

that is the most positive thing you have said in days. i am so proud of you!!!

[DustyRhodes]

Point #1: Lee Barfknecht is an asshole. Nobody here [in NE] likes him.

Point #2: The OWH is not the only publication that has the Buffs penciled in to finish in the bottom of the conference. Don't make it seem like it's just NE picking on the Buffs. This is something that NE does sometimes but this isn't an example of it.

Point #3: The Buffs will not be that low. No way that's happening. You guys are much better than that. Last year there's not way you were a 2-10 team. More like 4 or 5 win team. That was with a QB who is not a QB. The presence of an actual QB this year will vault you back into a bowl and probably 7 or 8 wins. Write it down.

[ladyblaise]

Point #1: Lee Barfknecht is an asshole. Nobody here [in NE] likes him.

Point #2: The OWH is not the only publication that has the Buffs penciled in to finish in the bottom of the conference. Don't make it seem like it's just NE picking on the Buffs. This is something that NE does sometimes but this isn't an example of it.

Point #3: The Buffs will not be that low. No way that's happening. You guys are much better than that. Last year there's not way you were a 2-10 team. More like 4 or 5 win team. That was with a QB who is not a QB. The presence of an actual QB this year will vault you back into a bowl and probably 7 or 8 wins. Write it down.

#1 - its barfneck, per mbb.
#2 - no one said that ne was the only one picking on cu. we are just pointed out that barfneck is tarded. so is anyone who takes his predictions for gospel. so is anyone who remotely sees that article as complimentary towards the buffs. being as the prediction was tarded, we will just acknowledge its idiocy.
#3 - how very odd that a fusker thinks we will win more games than our resident optimist. i will take fc's prediction as "likely" which means 7 regular season games won, plus a bowl win = 8 wins. you talked me into it. :smile:

[Liver]

#1 - its barfneck, per mbb.
#2 - no one said that ne was the only one picking on cu. we are just pointed out that barfneck is tarded. so is anyone who takes his predictions for gospel. so is anyone who remotely sees that article as complimentary towards the buffs. being as the prediction was tarded, we will just acknowledge its idiocy.
#3 - how very odd that a fusker thinks we will win more games than our resident optimist. i will take fc's prediction as "likely" which means 7 regular season games won, plus a bowl win = 8 wins. you talked me into it. :smile:

saw a post on nb from a guy who says he was a former player under skippy and gb and is supposedly still close to the program. he's saying 8 wins is the thinking around the program. i'd freaking dance a happy happy jig if our Buffs win 8 or more, particularly if one of the wins is over barfneck's team.

[absinthe]

saw a post on nb from a guy who says he was a former player under skippy and gb and is supposedly still close to the program. he's saying 8 wins is the thinking around the program. i'd freaking dance a happy happy jig if our Buffs win 8 or more, particularly if one of the wins is over barfneck's team.

I think that guy might be drinking more than the koolaide

[Liver]

I think that guy might be drinking more than the koolaide

yeah, maybe. but, hey, better to be optimistic at this point in the year! i just want to see at least 6 wins.

[leftybuff]

fourth grader = overachieving Nebraskan Rhodes scholar candidate:smile2:

Or a NU Academic All-American:thumbsup:

[AustinTxBuff]

saw a post on nb from a guy who says he was a former player under skippy and gb and is supposedly still close to the program. he's saying 8 wins is the thinking around the program. i'd freaking dance a happy happy jig if our Buffs win 8 or more, particularly if one of the wins is over barfneck's team.

I really hope that "the thinking around the program" is about winning the next game in the schedule, and not how many games they'll be winning during the season.

[MiamiBuffs]

saw a post on nb from a guy who says he was a former player under skippy and gb and is supposedly still close to the program. he's saying 8 wins is the thinking around the program. i'd freaking dance a happy happy jig if our Buffs win 8 or more, particularly if one of the wins is over barfneck's team.

I'd do ****ing back flips if we won 8 games. That'd be a helluva turn.

Oh, and what is this nb you speak of?

[Rams4ever]

Yea, its kinda funny, everytime they dont agree with some article about CU football, they call it fuskertalk, its funny how about every other college fb publication has them in about the same spot this year in the big 12. IT must be a conspiracy against CU or something!

[absinthe]

Yea, its kinda funny, everytime they dont agree with some article about CU football, they call it fuskertalk, its funny how about every other college fb publication has them in about the same spot this year in the big 12. IT must be a conspiracy against CU or something!

Thank you for you always salient points, sorry we think we are better than such power house programs as Kansas and being capable of finishing better than 10th in the big 12 see things like this as a sign of disrespect.

[Rams4ever]

Sorry to say, but your really not all that better than Kansas right now, CSU isnt all that great either. THat doesnt mean you WONT be in a few years,after last seasons debacle there isnt alot of respect for CU right now.

[absinthe]

Sorry to say, but your really not all that better than Kansas right now, CSU isnt all that great either. THat doesnt mean you WONT be in a few years,after last seasons debacle there isnt alot of respect for CU right now.


that game was 15-20 in their house, given an improvement at QB and that we get the game at home this year I think we beat them.

B-Jax game stats:
NET YARDS PASSING 144
Completions-attempted 10-27
Sacked 3
Yards Lost 13
Int 2

[Rams4ever]

I think it will be a good game,will probably be close. But this isnt a sure win for CU in anyway.

[DustyRhodes]

I really don't think 8 wins is being overly optimistic at all.

the jump from 2 to 8 wins is a huge jump yes, but look at it this way:

should you really have only won two games last year?

Montana St. - you should've won this game
CSU - Should've won this one as well
ASU - eh, probably not.
UGA - You had no business being in this game. Fluke.
Mizzou - Loss
Baylor - shoulda won
TTU - I crapped myself when I saw that score. My first reaction would be upset, but going by the score it looks like you just owned them, so I'll let you keep it and not consider it a fluke.
OU - Loss
KU - Should've won
KSU - Toss up, I personally think you were good enough to win this one
ISU - they're terrible.
NU - loss, but hell, it was 21s going into the 4th qtr. You're right there.

tally it up, that's 6 to 7 wins that you were good enough to have last year. But when you have a non-QB trying to play QB, and you don't catch any breaks, you get screwed with 2 wins. It happens.

This year, you've actually got a QB. That makes a huge difference.

So is 8 wins really out of the question? I sure don't think so. I really do think you buffs are gonna turn some heads this year. Hopefully just not against NU!

[FlatironsBuff]

I think it will be a good game,will probably be close. But this isnt a sure win for CU in anyway.


Absolutely right, in that there are no 'for sure' wins out there for CU this year. We are worlds ahead of where we were at, but the talent had slipped quite a bit and you can't replace that, replace most coaches and the entire offense and defense and have everything running smoothly in 1 year. But I do think that we will be drastically better this year; and can't wait for the season to play out and see for sure what progress has been made. All I know is that CU somehow stayed in games where the offense did not produce any meaningful drives. Now while the offense will be greatly improved, noow we see that there may be issues with the middle of our D, so that mya offset some of the gains on the offense (but not all). I still feel that 5-6 wins is very realistic, and if the D doens't fall off as much as I am worried about, then 7 wins is possible.

As a fan of course, we can go undefeated this year!:thumbsup:

[KingPants]

I think it will be a good game,will probably be close. But this isnt a sure win for CU in anyway.

You must of spouted off in another thread. Not quite sure how you have been so neg. repped. But unfortunitly I agree with most of your points. The national perception of CU (and CSU...ergo the 10am time slot) is not high. And CSU can never be considered an easy win now a days.

I remember the one time in recent past where everyone picked CU for the easy win, and we lost like 41-14 to the rammies. Then a couple of years later everyone thought it was an easy win for CSU and CU returned the favor (by about the same score).

[Rams4ever]

Yea, it seems like every few years a blowout occurs. This year is kinda hard to figure,since no one really knows how good either team is

[SJBuff]

Yea, its kinda funny, everytime they dont agree with some article about CU football, they call it fuskertalk, its funny how about every other college fb publication has them in about the same spot this year in the big 12. IT must be a conspiracy against CU or something!

You know what I don't get? When people go to a college football fan site and are surprised to find fans of that team talking full on homer talk about their team. What the **** did you expect you tard!

Then even more amazing is when these non-fans try to argue that we are just not being reasonable and that our comments are just a bunch of homer talk. Duh!! Again this is a CU fan site. If a CU fan was talking like some of us do here on the lammie site or the fusker sight then I can understand the "that's just CU homer talk" call out but here some amount of CU homer talk should be expected, even required. After all, the term fan is derived from the word 'fanatical'.

So Rams4ever, if you want to continue to shout at the rain and point out that we are just a bunch of CU homers it's a free country and a free website so by all means knock yourself out. Just know that every time you do it you are proving to everyone just how completely stupid you are (and how pathetic an education you got at your "university") by attempting to point out to us what is plainly obvious to anyone - buff fan homers live at buff sites. Get it?

[5th_down]

Barfknecht isn't too biased, He'll likely put the Huskers #4

[unbiasedtruth]

Yea, its kinda funny, everytime they dont agree with some article about CU football, they call it fuskertalk, its funny how about every other college fb publication has them in about the same spot this year in the big 12. IT must be a conspiracy against CU or something!

not everuone... just read an article in the local paper here in Baja Oklahoma by the Big XII beat sportswriter..... he thinks CU is going to contend for the North and could actually win it this year.

Jimmy Burch is the sportswriter.

[Liver]

not everuone... just read an article in the local paper here in Baja Oklahoma by the Big XII beat sportswriter..... he thinks CU is going to contend for the North and could actually win it this year.

Jimmy Burch is the sportswriter.

solid take from mr. burch! yay for the rule of reason! :lol:

here's the general rule for the idiot fusker and sheep visitors:

sportswriter who doesn't give the Buffs a chance = retarded barfneck homer

sportswriter who does give the Buffs a chance = intelligent balanced journalist

get over it!

[5th_down]

You honestly expect CU to contend with Mizzou and NU? A 9 win team?

When's the last time a team went 2-10 and contended much in their conference the next year?

I say 5-6 wins is MAYBE realistic...which is a VAST improvement, dont get me wrong

Doubling your win total from the last year is great

[unbiasedtruth]

You honestly expect CU to contend with Mizzou and NU? A 9 win team?

ok seeing that you are from missouri I have something to show you.... a little hisrory lesson

2000 Buffs were 3-8 overall

2001 Buffs were Big XII champs and went to the Fiesta bowl.

If any teamin the conference can do this, the Buffs can because they have been there before....

find another team in the Big XII that has done this.....

[BUFFSROCKS]

ok seeing that you are from missouri I have something to show you.... a little hisrory lesson

2000 Buffs were 3-8 overall

2001 Buffs were Big XII champs and went to the Fiesta bowl.

If any teamin the conference can do this, the Buffs can because they have been there before....

find another team in the Big XII that has done this.....

GOOD FACTS THERE, NICE WHEN YOU CAN'T DISPUTE THE TRUTH.

[5th_down]

ok seeing that you are from missouri I have something to show you.... a little hisrory lesson

2000 Buffs were 3-8 overall

2001 Buffs were Big XII champs and went to the Fiesta bowl.

If any teamin the conference can do this, the Buffs can because they have been there before....

find another team in the Big XII that has done this.....

I'll give you the nod, but that team had beasts known as Bobby Purify,Chris Brown and Michael Lewis

I don't see this years team having that kind of talent (hell that was one of the best RB duos in years)

[ladyblaise]

Yea, its kinda funny, everytime they dont agree with some article about CU football, they call it fuskertalk, its funny how about every other college fb publication has them in about the same spot this year in the big 12. IT must be a conspiracy against CU or something!

well i live in the dfw area. this week, they were piping in that cu is going to be suprising this year.

so i think, basically, that your pop off is nothing more than argumentative fodder to fuel attention your way. because your supposition surely was not very well thought out.

[ladyblaise]

I'll give you the nod, but that team had beasts known as Bobby Purify,Chris Brown and Michael Lewis

I don't see this years team having that kind of talent (hell that was one of the best RB duos in years)

i guess 5th down has not been keeping up with our vast improvements in the arena of ball movers.

5th down, i do not care how you personally "see" our team. i think they will turn some heads. your opinion is not worth the toilet paper lammiefusker could wipe with. (god i hope he knows how to wipe).