'10 CO DE Chris Martin (Signed to California)

[exxon]

Rivals (http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=81148#colleges)
Scout (http://colorado.scout.com/a.z?s=148&p=8&c=1&nid=3450156)
ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=66593&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d665 93)
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/56/562714.jpg
Bishop O'Dowd HS (Oakland, CA)
Transferred to Grandview High For his senior season

Ht: 6-foot-4
Wt: 214 lbs
Forty: 4.65 secs

Scout Bio:

Has 109 tackles through 8 games. Four sacks, 4 forced fumbles, and 3 fumble rcoveries, 1 int.Rivals Bio:

Earned first-team all-state and first-team all-area as a sophomore. Also a standout on basketball making all-league (HM) his sophomore season.Chris Martin Videos:
Chris Martin on Yahoo! Video(dbwracademy)

Chris Martin News:
Underclassmen get first official offers (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=3552825)(ESPN.com)
Martin Proves Himself at Rising Stars Camp (http://usc.scout.com/2/767540.html)(Scout.com)
Martin Earns Trojan Offer (http://wearesc.com/news/story.php?article=1106)(WeAreSC.com)


Your Colorado Buffaloes are high on Chris Martin's list of schools.

[exxon]

Some random stuff from articles.

Martin, a 6-4, 225-pound linebacker from Oakland (Calif.) Bishop O'Dowd dominated the NorCal Nike Camp at both linebacker and tight end. He earned all-state underclass honors last season and holds verbal offers from USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Colorado and Notre Dame.

Like Powell, Martin may grow out of the linebacker position and has the frame to be a monster pass-rusher coming off the edge. He's big, fast, tough and knows how to play the game. He's very solid academically as well; Martin is the kind of high-character athlete every college wants.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=3552825



“I’m not looking to make an early commitment, but it’s possible that I’ll start narrowing down the list,” he said. “I don’t want to be one of those recruits with 30 or 35 offers because I get close with the coaches sometimes and I don’t want to think about letting them down. I’ll probably keep it around five or six schools.”
http://wearesc.com/news/story.php?article=1106




25 East Bay High school football players to watch

Chris Martin

Bishop O'Dowd, LB

Only a junior, Martin has already garnered attention from the top colleges around the country. The 6-4, 225-pound hard-hitting defender has all the tools — speed, athleticism and solid instincts. He already has offers from Notre Dame, USC, Cal, Stanford, UCLA, Colorado and Oregon.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/highschools/ci_10374262



But it was the Dragons' swarming defense, led by Martin's twelve tackles, which controlled the game. Bishop O'Dowd held the Hornets to 58 yards total offense. The Dragons allowed only six completions while picking off two passes, the second a 60-yard interception return for a touchdown by Quentin McWhorter as time expired.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/teens/ci_10453680

[Duff Man]

Probable five star for the 2010 class.

[exxon]

No doubt in my mind. Did you see his vid? That's his sophmore tape. :wow:

[Duff Man]

Yeah, it is pretty sick. He is going to make a monster DE in time. This is the type of player that wouldn't have even given us the time of day 3-4 years ago. Damn it would be so nice to land some elite pass rushers.

[IowaBuffFan]

I saw we've offered. Any word on if we'll be in his top 5 or 6?

[neil29fp]

Too early.

[exxon]

Too early.

If we don't someone else will. THe kid is pretty high on CU. It's going to be a battle with UCLA and USC involved.

[sliderNcider]

If we don't someone else will. THe kid is pretty high on CU. It's going to be a battle with UCLA and USC involved.

Weren't we the leader at one point? But, everyone else is making it even?

[neil29fp]

If we don't someone else will. THe kid is pretty high on CU. It's going to be a battle with UCLA and USC involved.

I was referring to Iowa's post of whether or not we're in his top 5--too early to tell--plus top 5 doesn't matter right now-we just have to stay on him.

[exxon]

I was referring to Iowa's post of whether or not we're in his top 5--too early to tell--plus top 5 doesn't matter right now-we just have to stay on him.

Gotcha. :thumbsup:

[BehindEnemyLines]

Interesting. Ya notice how people seem to go backwards when they meet him?

[zonabuff]

The Disruptor!

[exxon]

Martin’s father is from Bedford, Ind., and the Bishop O’Dowd standout has followed the Notre Dame program for a long time.

I found this while searching for some news on Chris Martin.
http://news.google.com/news?q=Chris%20Martin%20Bishop%20O'Dowd&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wn

[exxon]

2010 prospect Martin has four early favories
Monday, October 27, 2008
Posted by Greg Biggins

If Serra (Gardena, Calif.) receiver Robert Woods is the offensive player drawing the most early attention from the California Class of 2010, linebacker Chris Martin (Oakland, Calif./Bishop O'Dowd) is just as big of a prospect on the defensive side of the ball.

Martin will be a strong candidate for the state's top overall recruit a year from now. He earned all-state underclass honors as a sophomore and was the top prospect we saw, regardless of grade or position, at the NorCal NIKE Camp last May.

At 6-4, 225 pounds, Martin is playing inside linebacker but may project best as a pass-rushing defensive end in college.

More... (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3667405&name=West_Recruiting)

[buff4bcs1985]

let me be the first to say this... **** OREGON

[neil29fp]

I love how we are getting on these guys early--that kind of stuff has a huge impression on these kids.

[Duff Man]

Best news in a while.:thumbsup:

[exxon]

We are still in it for this kid. ND, Stanford and USC are the others lining up for Chris.

[exxon]

Top juniors selected as first 2010 Army All-Americans
RivalsHigh

SAN ANTONIO – Ten of the nation's top-rated juniors were announced Saturday as the first selections to play in the 2010 U.S. Army All-American Bowl, taking place next January in San Antonio, Texas, and televised live on NBC. All ten are rated among Rivals.com's top juniors to watch.

The announcements were made during the U.S. Army All-American Bowl, with six of the players making their announcements live on NBC. These six players attended the U.S. Army National Combine for the nation's best underclassman. The 2010 U.S. Army All-American selection process continues throughout the spring and summer, with the selection of 400 nominees and the final 90 roster spots announced in the fall.

The following players are the first selections to the 2010 U.S. Army All-American Bowl:

Markeith Ambles (Henry County High), McDonough, GA*
Dillon Baxter (Mission Bay High) San Diego, CA
Robert Crisp (Chapel Hill High), Chapel Hill, NC*
Michael Dyer (Little Rock Christian High) Little Rock, AR*
Jake Heaps (Skyline High) Sammamish, WA*
Malcolm Jones (Oaks Christian High) Westlake, CA
Marcus Lattimore (Byrnes High) Duncan, SC
Christian Lombard (Fremd High) Palatine, IL*
Chris Martin (Bishop O'Dowd High) Oakland, CA
Lache Seastrunk (Temple High) Temple, TX*

More... (http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=896189)

[Cornh8er]

From scout and espn, it looks like he already took us out of the running:sad2:

[exxon]

From scout and espn, it looks like he already took us out of the running:sad2:

We're still in it. It's CU, Stanford, USC, and ND. Hawk was the first to offer him. We made a great impression on him. I'm not saying he's ours, but we have a shot.

[Cornh8er]

We're still in it. It's CU, Stanford, USC, and ND. Hawk was the first to offer him. We made a great impression on him. I'm not saying he's ours, but we have a shot.

sounds great! Thanks!

[exxon]

sounds great! Thanks!

A winning season here in Boulder would help out immensely. Get it done Hawkins!

[Duff Man]

A winning season here in Boulder would help out immensely. Get it done Hawkins!

Yep. The 2009 season is going to be very important for this program.

A good season and I think the 2010 class could be outstanding. Another subpar season and it could get ugly.

[Duff Man]

So Mr. Martin is not leaning anywhere right now. He wants early playing time, would be an awesome get. Hopefully the early relationship he built with Cabral will pay some dividends.:thumbsup:

[exxon]

USC and ND are on him hard. But he keeps on mentioning CU.

[Duff Man]

USC and ND have both lost the guys that were primarily recruiting him over the last two weeks, so that definitely helps us. Also, early playing time is a factor here. With USC possibly getting a commit from Kennard on Tuesday, that should also help our cause.

Long way to next February, but this guy is a monster. I'm glad we have Cabral as his primary recruiter.

[Daaah]

USC and ND have both lost the guys that were primarily recruiting him over the last two weeks, so that definitely helps us. Also, early playing time is a factor here. With USC possibly getting a commit from Kennard on Tuesday, that should also help our cause.

Long way to next February, but this guy is a monster. I'm glad we have Cabral as his primary recruiter.

Wait, I thought we were getting Kennard. :lol:

[Duff Man]

Wait, I thought we were getting Kennard. :lol:

:lol:

Sounds like it will be USC or Cal.

[Duff Man]

So Kennard choosing USC makes the race for Martin wide open. He has no issues with leaving the state either. Hoping Cabral can work some magic here.

[dyemeduke]

you think so? When I first started following recruiting (albeit not as much as you), SC was emerging as a powerhouse again. I kept thinking that if this kid commits to SC, then that other highly recruited kid CAN'T commit too...right? And then year after year, Carrol would pull in more highly regarded recruits playing the same or similar positions. I have to respectfully disagree with you - Kennard choosing SC will not deter Martin from going to SC as well...CU staff will have to fight hard for Martin.

[Duff Man]

you think so? When I first started following recruiting (albeit not as much as you), SC was emerging as a powerhouse again. I kept thinking that if this kid commits to SC, then that other highly recruited kid CAN'T commit too...right? And then year after year, Carrol would pull in more highly regarded recruits playing the same or similar positions. I have to respectfully disagree with you - Kennard choosing SC will not deter Martin from going to SC as well...CU staff will have to fight hard for Martin.

Martin specifically mentioned the Kennard situation/early playing time in an article I saw a couple weeks ago. Plus, quite a few people think he wants to leave the state anyway (this may change). But he is definitely looking at early playing as a major consideration, so I really do think Kennard going to USC is a deterrent in this case. Obviously, for the most part, USC is still able to recruit anybody and everybody.

[sliderNcider]

Won't Manti Teos' decision affect Martin as well? Something about if he goes to USC than USC is out of the picture?

[Duff Man]

Won't Manti Teos' decision affect Martin as well? Something about if he goes to USC than USC is out of the picture?

Hadn't heard anything about that, but I wouldn't doubt it.

[Duff Man]

Pulled the trigger to ****ing Notre Dame. You gotta be ****ting me.:huh:

[Highwalker]

Pulled the trigger to ****ing Notre Dame. You gotta be ****ting me.:huh:

Huh? Chris Martin did?

edit...nevermind saw where Martin is going domer. That ****ing sucks

[buffwings]

phuuuuuuuck, even without trying those scheisse esseners get good recruits. :wtf:

[buff4bcs1985]

it isnt over
we got 365 days to go and hawks a closer:lol:

[GetEmRado]

I agree...he is ours for sure.

[2HellNback]

it isnt over
we got 365 days to go and hawks a closer:lol:


I agree...he is ours for sure.

Not to mention... A new coaching staff is going to open him back up. :thumbsup:

Get after him...

[exxon]

Hawk better step up and get this kid. Watch some of his vids. The kid's a monster. Talking about another Chad Brown.

[BuffLuKe]

Wonder if Teo's mission had anything to do with this? Makes sense in a way.

[sliderNcider]

Let's hope Weis gets canned after next year. Supposedly we were 2nd to ND for Martin

[BuffLuKe]

Is he an ilb or olb at the college level?

[exxon]

Wonder if Teo's mission had anything to do with this? Makes sense in a way.

I don't think so. This kid isn't intimidated by anyone.


Is he an ilb or olb at the college level?

He projects at both LB spots, or even at DE. He's a stud for sure.

[BuffLuKe]

Well they will stay on him, signing day is a long ways off. If Notre Dame tanks this year, he might reconsider.

[Cornh8er]

Well they will stay on him, signing day is a long ways off. If Notre Dame tanks this year, he might reconsider.

Notre Dame has a schedule that a high school team could win 9 games, I doubt they tank

[sliderNcider]

Notre Dame has a schedule that a high school team could win 9 games, I doubt they tank

Syracuse says otherwise:smile2:

[buff4bcs1985]

bump ive heard from a couple people he was in boulder today talknig to cabral and jayshon sykes

[AlferdJasper]

bump ive heard from a couple people he was in boulder today talknig to cabral and jayshon sykes

Yes.

[exxon]

He wanted to tell the coaches in person why he chose ND over CU. Per Rivals

[buff4bcs1985]

****....

[exxon]

****....
Didn't your friends tell you he was wearing a Notre Dame hoodie? :lol:

[buff4bcs1985]

So no hope...

[AlferdJasper]

He wanted to tell the coaches in person why he chose ND over CU. Per Rivals

Yeah, most players flyer to a different city to tell some coaches why they aren't going to play for them. Hmmmm.

Nah, I'm going with the sunshine outlook on this one. No reason to fly out for anyone's spring game unless you REALLY like the team and coaches, even if you are committed, it shows how close it was.

And if it was that close a decision between CU and ND, the teeter totter could fall back the other direction over the next 10 months. An eternity when you are 17 years old.

You never know until signing day, as we learned the hard way with some recruits, and the exceptionally positive way with others.

[Darth Snow]

Yeah, most players flyer to a different city to tell some coaches why they aren't going to play for them. Hmmmm.

Nah, I'm going with the sunshine outlook on this one. No reason to fly out for anyone's spring game unless you REALLY like the team and coaches, even if you are committed, it shows how close it was.

And if it was that close a decision between CU and ND, the teeter totter could fall back the other direction over the next 10 months. An eternity when you are 17 years old.

You never know until signing day, as we learned the hard way with some recruits, and the exceptionally positive way with others.
:yeahthat:
fly out here to tell coaches why they weren't good enough? bull****.

[AlferdJasper]

Didn't your friends tell you he was wearing a Notre Dame hoodie? :lol:


I'm sure Mr. Kasa wore other colors and team gear while he was considering that ... other school, the one in the swamp.

Just keeping it in perspective.

[Duff Man]

The source that says the ND commitment is solid knows his stuff.

[Junction]

The source that says the ND commitment is solid knows his stuff.


It might be. Probably is. But as somebody said above, 10 months is an eternity when you are 17. He might be a solid ND commit today, but if anything changes, the fact that he was here today sounds like we would at least be in the game... :thumbsup:

[Darth Snow]

It might be. Probably is. But as somebody said above, 10 months is an eternity when you are 17. He might be a solid ND commit today, but if anything changes, the fact that he was here today sounds like we would at least be in the game... :thumbsup:
stop making sense. I hate it when you do that. Thank god it's rare! :lol: :wink2:

[AlferdJasper]

The source that says the ND commitment is solid knows his stuff.


It might be. Probably is. But as somebody said above, 10 months is an eternity when you are 17. He might be a solid ND commit today, but if anything changes, the fact that he was here today sounds like we would at least be in the game... :thumbsup:

Of course it is solid.
But it doesn't change the fact that he is keeping in touch with Hawkins and staff, that he chose to make a trip to Boulder and take in a game.

It's just remarkable. I would say that a kid watching both teams play in season next year will start to visualize where he could fit in best, and once he starts seeing himself on Folsom Field instead of in front of Touchdown Jesus, the commitment could slowly crumble.

Or not.

But I like the fantasy better than being hard-***** realistic.

[Duff Man]

It might be. Probably is. But as somebody said above, 10 months is an eternity when you are 17. He might be a solid ND commit today, but if anything changes, the fact that he was here today sounds like we would at least be in the game... :thumbsup:

A situation to keep an eye on, just know that it will take something drastic (like Weis getting fired) for him to switch IMO.

Always a good thing to get the attention of top-flight Cali talent though.:thumbsup:

[exxon]

When he committed to Notre Dame he said he was going to visit CU to tell the coaches in person why he committed to ND. His family vacations in Colorado. Chris Martin is all Notre Dame right now.

[exxon]

I'm sure Mr. Kasa wore other colors and team gear while he was considering that ... other school, the one in the swamp.

Just keeping it in perspective.
Do you really think Nick Kasa showed up to Boulder for his official with UF gear head to toe? I doubt that. Not many kids do that.

[BehindEnemyLines]

A situation to keep an eye on, just know that it will take something drastic (like Weis getting fired) for him to switch IMO.

Always a good thing to get the attention of top-flight Cali talent though.:thumbsup:

Might turn out to be a positive. Other hs players might ask Martin about CU, facilities, coaches, etc. Might work in the Buffs favor.....

[AlferdJasper]

Do you really think Nick Kasa showed up to Boulder for his official with UF gear head to toe? I doubt that. Not many kids do that.


No. I think Kasa wore UF gear while he was fully committed to UF in his head.

One day, maybe he selected something neutral, and then down the road, he felt like wearing black and gold.

Kasa wasn't committed anywhere when he took his officials, so I doubt he was sporting anyone's colors, except to be respectful of the school he was visiting. I know recruits are aware of what they wear --- like few would show up in pure red to a CU visit. Martin wore his ND sweatshirt to say to Weiss "nothing to worry about here, just taking in a game and the Flatirons" but I also think Martin showing up to CU at all, IN PUBLIC and at a very public event, offers more interpretations.

It will be interesting to watch this play out. Statistically, the two teams weren't that far apart.

CU results, 2008:
5 wins
7 losses

ND results, 2008:
6 wins + bowl win = 7 wins
6 losses

One big difference to a player like Martin might be the number of ND players that may go pro. Colorado did not have a great year.
Just think the way our season goes is going to be HUGE in recruitment this year. And I'm optimistic in that department.

Sorry to go a little OT on this thread, but here's a footnote (no pun intended):
While looking up ND's game stats, I noted that ND's FG kicker had a tough year in 2008.

WALKER, Brandon 14 fgs in 24 attempts
(But that was better than the previous year, when he made 6 of 12 in 2007 - 50%.)

So Walker missed 10 last season and Goodman missed "only" 9 - keeps it in perspective, especially since I'm convinced Aric is coming back strong in '09, whereas Walker is still struggling, possibly with injuries as well. ND has brought in a new kicker to the mix.

ND had a lot of ongoing kicking woes and I'm pretty sure this was one of the first teams that Grossnickle was invited to visit as a junior, and told friends that he hated the campus. Way before he was on CU's radar and vice versa. old Premium Rivals article. (http://notredame.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=961&CID=808068)

[Darth Snow]

this wasn't his official visit so some of these comparisons are a bit off... but the fact is he is committed. However, Weis is on the hot seat for sure and another losing season may see HIM quit (hell, he thought about it last year!). So its good to be #2 in this situation. Hell, anything is possible.

[buffaholic]

A situation to keep an eye on, just know that it will take something drastic (like Weis getting fired) for him to switch IMO.

Always a good thing to get the attention of top-flight Cali talent though.:thumbsup:

Weis getting fired doesn't seem drastic to me. I think it's more likely than not!

[exxon]

No. I think Kasa wore UF gear while he was fully committed to UF in his head.

One day, maybe he selected something neutral, and then down the road, he felt like wearing black and gold.

Kasa wasn't committed anywhere when he took his officials, so I doubt he was sporting anyone's colors, except to be respectful of the school he was visiting. I know recruits are aware of what they wear --- like few would show up in pure red to a CU visit. Martin wore his ND sweatshirt to say to Weiss "nothing to worry about here, just taking in a game and the Flatirons" but I also think Martin showing up to CU at all, IN PUBLIC and at a very public event, offers more interpretations.

So I guess the 3 bills he dropped in the ND bookstore at the ND spring game was for show. right?:lol:

He's not coming to CU.

[AlferdJasper]

So I guess the 3 bills he dropped in the ND bookstore at the ND spring game was for show. right?:lol:

He's not coming to CU.


He fully believes he is going to Notre Dame and his commitment will not waver.
He believes the girl he is taking to prom will love him forever and vice versa.
He knows exactly what his major will be in college.

... and parents of teenagers, and recent teenagers, know that all that can change in a heartbeat.

3 bills is nothing when you have a change of heart.


Believe me, I'm not saying Chris is coming to CU. I'm just saying he's engaged to one girl and texting another. So you never know a year from now which one he'll hold close to his heart.

[exxon]

:lol:

If you want to think CU has a chance go ahead. I think he's 100% sold on ND.

[OUBuff]

3 bills is nothing when you have a change of heart.


Afterall, that is what Ebay is all about... hope he has an account.:smile2:

[AlferdJasper]

Afterall, that is what Ebay is all about... hope he has an account.:smile2:


He can sell all his ND stuff there when he sees the buff light.


only $3500, buy it now!

http://i24.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/3a/9e/b053_35.JPG

[exxon]

Rivals reports Martin is solid with ND. Again. :lol:

[InTheBuff]

he will never be a Buff-

[sweaty teets]

Never.

[Duff Man]

Has transferred to Grandview, making the 5A title chase much more interesting.

(And we still have little to no shot)

[exxon]

Wow. I will definitely be going to see this kid play.

[Buffnik]

I'm not giving up hope. I still don't like our odds, but they're better than they were yesterday.

Also, regarding Grandview, their WR Heath Davis is interesting. He's 6 feet tall, 180 lbs, runs around a 4.5, and won the Elite Hands award at a camp this summer. I'm not sure if he ended up making it to CUs camp this summer (injury), but he's very high on us. If you're watching Grandview play to check out Martin this year, definitely give a look to Davis. He could be a sleeper for us and if he has a big senior year I'd expect he'll at least be invited to walk on. So far no offers, but ASU, KSU, Cal, Nebraska & CSU are all keeping an eye on him too.

[Buffarino]

How did Martin go from CA to NJ to Grandview?

[neil29fp]

I know he is crazy solid on ND but you gotta wonder with him moving to Colorado and CU in his top 5 if he ends up giving us a look if CU puts together a good year and ND performs below expectations.

[Duff Man]

How did Martin go from CA to NJ to Grandview?

Couldn't afford to attend the private school in New Jersey. He has family here in Colorado, I think his cousin might be a freshman at Grandview this year.

[buffaholic]

This kid needs to fall in love at Grandview. With Colorado, with some pretty girl, who cares!!!!!

[dio]

He WILL be a Buff.

[exxon]

This is great news guys. Great news. If he likes it here (people,weather) he could definitely be swayed to CU. He has a tremendous relationship with our coaching staff. Think positive people!!:smile2:

[Duff Man]

This is great news guys. Great news. If he likes it here (people,weather) he could definitely be swayed to CU. He has a tremendous relationship with our coaching staff. Think positive people!!:smile2:

It beats a kick in the nuts.:smile2: Let's just win some games and everything should fall into place nicely.

Also, buffaholic is right. Get this kid a girlfriend that is planning on going to CU ASAP.

[exxon]

If you haven't seen a highlight tape of this kid, you need to do it.

[Buffarino]

I just hope he starts spending time in Boulder for unofficial visits, going to games, etc. Kasa did the same quite a bit and next thing you know, he's a Buff.

[Duff Man]

Very important to get him up to Boulder for a couple games. He has already been on campus before, just have to get him visiting a couple times during the season.

Time for Hawk and Bandison to work some magic.

[dyemeduke]

Bandison's recruiting him? Correct me if I"m wrong, but isn't this guy one of our weakest assistants? He's not that great of a position coach from what I can tell on the field, and I can't really think of a prospect that we owe primarily due to him. Are we looking at DE with him, and so Cabral wouldn't get involved?

[exxon]

Bandison's recruiting him? Correct me if I"m wrong, but isn't this guy one of our weakest assistants? He's not that great of a position coach from what I can tell on the field, and I can't really think of a prospect that we owe primarily due to him. Are we looking at DE with him, and so Cabral wouldn't get involved?
I'm pretty sure the whole staff is in on this kid. He's in the same league as Darrell Scott. He just plays on the defense.

[dyemeduke]

as always - good point. I'm hopeful, but not too optimistic. Maybe if a bunch of Buffs fans showed up to all Grandview games, we could help sway him?? Of course, what would really help is if ND sucked it up again this year, and our Buffaloes showed great progress.

[AlferdJasper]

as always - good point. I'm hopeful, but not too optimistic. Maybe if a bunch of Buffs fans showed up to all Grandview games, we could help sway him?? Of course, what would really help is if ND sucked it up again this year, and our Buffaloes showed great progress.


Showing up to his games not so effective,

but this is an excellent plan:

1) if ND sucked it up again this year, (They will.)
2) and our Buffaloes showed great progress. (They will.)

[buffwings]

a few visits from Cabral and some good unofficial visits up to CU cant hurt either.

[sackman]

"Transferred to Grandview"... Is this the Grandview here in Colorado, or one in California? :confused:

[Duff Man]

It is the Grandview here in Colorado.

[sackman]

It is the Grandview here in Colorado.

Well then perhaps we have a decent shot at the kid afterall. I'm sure the coaches aren't giving up on him.

[Duff Man]

Well then perhaps we have a decent shot at the kid afterall. I'm sure the coaches aren't giving up on him.

Certainly changes things. Will be interesting to see how ND performs on the field this season.

One plus is that he knows our coaching staff well. Cabral has been on him for a while. This is where Hawk being our point man on in-state recruiting comes into play.

[Denver_sc]

Another article on Chris Martin this morning in the Denver Post:

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_13204005

Hopefully he'll really like being in CO.

[Buffnik]

Decided to change his home state to Colorado in the thread title.

[SINKRATZ]

He immediately becomes the top HS player in CO, so if Hawk wants to keep his streak alive of landing the state's top player each recruiting cycle - this is the guy, no?

Keep the streak alive Hawk!

[Darth Snow]

nice. hes had some luck on this streak, I hope it continues. :thumbsup: :gobuffs:

[zbuff]

I'm pretty sure that's why here moved to Colorado, since we weren't going to get Hinder. :thumbsup:

[exxon]

High-profile transfer Chris Martin OK’d by CHSAA

Notre Dame recruit allowed to practice, play for Grandview after transfer waiver cleared
By COURTNEY OAKES
The Aurora Sentinel
Published: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:41 PM MDT


AURORA | Chris Martin and the Grandview football team breathed a sigh of relief on Thursday, as the Colorado High School Activities Association cleared the Notre Dame recruit to play with the Wolves in the 2009 season.

The 6-foot-5, 245-pound Martin is ranked as the No. 1 prospect in the nation as a defensive end by recruiting services Rivals.com and Scout.com, even though he’s likely to play more as a linebacker for Grandview this season.

More... (http://www.aurorasentinel.com/articles/2009/08/27/sports/prep_sports/doc4a9751fbc7dee726936668.txt)

[Junction]

High-profile transfer Chris Martin OK’d by CHSAA

Notre Dame recruit allowed to practice, play for Grandview after transfer waiver cleared
By COURTNEY OAKES
The Aurora Sentinel
Published: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:41 PM MDT


AURORA | Chris Martin and the Grandview football team breathed a sigh of relief on Thursday, as the Colorado High School Activities Association cleared the Notre Dame recruit to play with the Wolves in the 2009 season.

The 6-foot-5, 245-pound Martin is ranked as the No. 1 prospect in the nation as a defensive end by recruiting services Rivals.com and Scout.com, even though he’s likely to play more as a linebacker for Grandview this season.

More... (http://www.aurorasentinel.com/articles/2009/08/27/sports/prep_sports/doc4a9751fbc7dee726936668.txt)


Hmmmm.... it looks like Grandview plays Friday @ Grand Junction Central....

[TuffBuff32]

It says he loves talking to hawk and cabral and im expecting a notre dame blow up so i think he decommits around week 6 or 7

[Buffarino]

Any chance he's up in Boulder on Sunday?

[El Gringo]

Any chance he's up in Boulder on Sunday?

Never mind - misread the article. Here's what he told rivals:


While I am out here [in Colorado], I am going to take my cousin up to CU a little bit. I will take advantage of that," Martin said. "I love talking to [head] coach Dan Hawkins (http://colorado.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Coach=1474), [linebackers] coach Brian Cabral (http://colorado.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Coach=160), so I will be up there a little bit. But I don't see a reason for any change [in my commitment status with Notre Dame] right now.

[Unleash Hell]

But I don't see a reason for any change [in my commitment status with Notre Dame] right now.


:thumbsup:

[El Gringo]

:thumbsup:

Bingo. Chalk him up.

[InTheBuff]

just another reason to root against Notre Dumb :smile2:

[zbuff]

I'm not sure why everyone thinks a team losing helps our recruiting - it didn't hurt us after a 2-10 season. It could make recruits think they play sooner, which the better ones all want.

[Duff Man]

I'm not sure why everyone thinks a team losing helps our recruiting - it didn't hurt us after a 2-10 season. It could make recruits think they play sooner, which the better ones all want.

The difference is recruits knew who the coach was going to be after that 2-10 season. That is not a guarantee if Weis underachieves this year.

[zbuff]

The difference is recruits knew who the coach was going to be after that 2-10 season. That is not a guarantee if Weis underachieves this year.

Well, good point in this case, but I see that statement over and over, and I just think it could go either way.

[buffaholic]

The difference is recruits knew who the coach was going to be after that 2-10 season. That is not a guarantee if Weis underachieves this year.

I will go out on a limb here. If Weis doesn't win 10 games he's gone with this schedule. Now with that said, they will replace him likely with a HUGE name and it may not mix things up so much.

More powerful will be a Buff 10 win season and having Martin really get accustomed to Colorado. A girlfriend wouldn't hurt.

[SINKRATZ]

I will go out on a limb here. If Weis doesn't win 10 games he's gone with this schedule. Now with that said, they will replace him likely with a HUGE name and it may not mix things up so much.

More powerful will be a Buff 10 win season and having Martin really get accustomed to Colorado. A girlfriend wouldn't hurt.

I'm not so sure - ND can win 9 games and still have a great chance of being selected to a BCS bowl (which is bulls*** by the way), that would probably save his job.

I completely agree though, that they would go get a big "name" coach to replace him.

[buff4bcs1985]

I'm not so sure - ND can win 9 games and still have a great chance of being selected to a BCS bowl (which is bulls*** by the way), that would probably save his job.

I completely agree though, that they would go get a big "name" coach to replace him.
your next head coach at notre dame

[buffwings]

I'm this has been mentioned, but it would be awesome if he committed to CU and then again DH gets the top recruit in the state!! :thumbsup:

[SINKRATZ]

your next head coach at notre dame

F*** if I know...Gruden, Urban Meyer? I just know ND is as big an attention whore as any school and they believe it's the best job in the country, so they'll go after a big name.

[buff4bcs1985]

lol i had a picture of chucky that just wont post i think its gruden

[zbuff]

You mean you think Gruden is Chucky?

[AlferdJasper]

Grandview played tonight (9/4)
[/URL][URL]http://preps.denverpost.com/home.html?site=default&tpl=Boxscore&ID=32672 (http://preps.denverpost.com/home.html?site=default&tpl=Team&TeamID=15)

Grandview 38, Central (G.J.) 7 - Final

No other details yet.

[buff4bcs1985]

You mean you think Gruden is Chucky?

you don't think he looks like him???

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n280/daughterofolaf/GrudenVsChucky3.jpg

[AlferdJasper]

Athlon Sports Profile (http://www.athlonsports.com/college-football/consensus-100/chris-martin)
Chris Martin
http://images.athlonsports.com/d/16792-2/ChrisMartinGK.jpg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7zz8mU5vgM

[exxon]

Could you imagine Martin and Kasa(assuming he RS) at DE for the next four years? :wow:

[zbuff]

you don't think he looks like him???

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n280/daughterofolaf/GrudenVsChucky3.jpg

Actually, yeah, I do.

[AlferdJasper]

Could you imagine Martin and Kasa(assuming he RS) at DE for the next four years? :wow:


Yeah, I wish we had a drool icon.

[bombay]

According to a kid I know who's an offensive lineman at Grandview, Martin is on the sidelines in Boulder today. He also says Martin intends to go to ND.

[BuffsRising]

Well, since Chris Martin has already committed to Notre Dame, that doesn't seem like much of a shock.

[buffwings]

Could you imagine Martin and Kasa(assuming he RS) at DE for the next four years? :wow:


There's no way Martin is coming to CU while Hack is the coach.

[exxon]

There's no way Martin is coming to CU while Hack is the coach.
:rolleyes:

[buffwings]

:rolleyes:

O-kayyy , am I wrong? Unless something remarkable like 2001 happens that aint happenin'

[exxon]

Are you chris martin?

[buffwings]

Are you chris martin?

If I was I certainly wouldnt come to CU. Not with Hackins as HC.

[exxon]

If I was I certainly wouldnt come to CU. Not with Hackins as HC.
And any coach on the recruiting trail would tell a kid not to commit to a coach, Commit to the school. Coaches might not be there all four years.

[dyemeduke]

and besides you idiot - it's his relationship with Hawkins and Cabral that really provide us any window of opportunity with this kid. You get rid of Hawkins, you get rid of any chance with Martin.

[Buffnik]

and besides you idiot - it's his relationship with Hawkins and Cabral that really provide us any window of opportunity with this kid. You get rid of Hawkins, you get rid of any chance with Martin.

I doubt that. Depends on who we hire. Cabral stays regardless.

[AlferdJasper]

and besides you idiot - it's his relationship with Hawkins and Cabral that really provide us any window of opportunity with this kid. You get rid of Hawkins, you get rid of any chance with Martin.



I think you are correct.

[buffwings]

I think you are correct.

I dont you, Dyemeduke you're the IDOT, Cabral could still keep him if he gets hired as HC or the kid likes the new coach as well. There are names out there from smaller schools who are up and coming and could turn some kids heads towards CU.

[AlferdJasper]

recruiting is often about relationships built.

[buffwings]

recruiting is often about relationships built.
It's also about confidence in the coach and his system and the belief that he will succeed. There is no reason to believe any of those factors exist currently at CU.

[zbuff]

I dont you, Dyemeduke you're the IDOT, Cabral could still keep him if he gets hired as HC or the kid likes the new coach as well. There are names out there from smaller schools who are up and coming and could turn some kids heads towards CU.

Be very careful dyme, you have been donted!

[sliderNcider]

Martin is HUGE. His cousin?nephew? was with him. He is a lot smaller... looks like a skill position player imo. He is only a freshmen tho

[buffwings]

Be very careful dyme, you have been donted!

:lol: i tried to rep you, but i guess i have recently, so i'll just dont you too.:lol:

[dyemeduke]

Be very careful dyme, you have been donted!

:thumbsup: I agree that Cabral stays, but his quotes have him really liking Hawkins. When this guy is already a solid ND commitment, all we have to hope on is that ND fails, and his relationship with Hawk continues to grow.

as well as a gf, he really gets along with his cousin, he starts to love the mountains, ND fires Weiss, etc. I still reiterate - fire Hawk, and any semblance of hope we have is gone.

But this talk is sort of nonsensical - Hawk is not getting fired this year, and Martin is still currently a solid ND commit.

[zbuff]

I still don't think Hawk loses his job this year unless the meltdown is complete.

[SuperiorBuff]

If I had to choose between believing whether Martin will come to CU or Coach Hack will get fired, I will go with the more realistic of two.

Hack will be gone!!
We get it already. Why not keep it in the football forum not the recruiting forum? You seem to be trying to steer kids from CU now; bash Hawk all you want but keep the recruiting forum positive.

[exxon]

Wings,
Please stop posting this all over the recruiting threads. You're entitled to your opinion. But you're going a little overboard.

[buffwings]

wilco.

:cool:

[Buffnik]

As has been mentioned before, nights like we had on Sunday can sometimes work to our advantage with a recruit. If I'm Chris Martin, there's a good chance I made some friendships with some guys who have committed or are considering CU, I saw an awesome atmosphere for a college football game, and I saw potential to make an impact quickly. At DE we're obviously thin and our best player there is a senior next year (Herrod). At LB, we graduate 3 seniors so immediate playing time is on the table.

We already have a lot of young talent and he should be seeing a situation where he can play right away and be an integral part of turning around one of the 25 most prestigious programs in the country. At Notre Dame, he's another guy. At Colorado, he could end up being a legend like Alfred Williams (another 43 WDE / 34 OLB).

[exxon]

wilco.

:cool:
Please don't take this the wrong way. You can have your opinion. I'm not asking you to change it, just tone it back on the player profiles. That's all I ask.

[buffwings]

Please don't take this the wrong way. You can have your opinion. I'm not asking you to change it, just tone it back on the player profiles. That's all I ask.

No problem, I'm cool with that.:thumbsup:

[Highwalker]

Nice article on Martin in the post this morning.

Martin comes to Colorado (the state, not the school people) (http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_13312207)

[dyemeduke]

I have no idea what took the local papers so long to report this. I mean, Boulder Buff reported this the moment it happened. That goes to show two things - the awesomeness of BB, and the shortcomings of our local papers.

[Highwalker]

I have no idea what took the local papers so long to report this. I mean, Boulder Buff reported this the moment it happened. That goes to show two things - the awesomeness of BB, and the shortcomings of our local papers.

I've seen a bunch of mentions Martin coming to Grandview in the papers the last 2-3 weeks.

[buffwings]

Lord, please let the Buffs win enough to go to a bowl game this year and perhaps Martin will see that he wants to be in Black and Gold more, than riding the pine for a couple years at Our Lady.

[zbuff]

What? You mean a coach gets a 5 star recruit and plays him because of his tremendous talent?

[zbuff]

Not talking (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/school?schoolId=30&page=briefingroom&season=2010&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fschool%3fschoolId%3d30%2 6page%3dbriefingroom%26season%3d2010)about CU at all. Besides USC, "Martin also mentioned California, Tennessee and Florida (should the Gators decide to become involved) as other possible options"

[dyemeduke]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=4483769

He seems to be pretty sold on ND, but if USC kills them and CU can somehow turn the season around while convincing him to attend another game or two unofficially, then who knows. "I just want to see a football team that's on the way to winning and that's in the right direction, and not one that's sitting there still on the hoofs trying to struggle just to get games where they should win." He was at the CSU game, and of course he knows about Toledo. Our only hope is if Cornh8ter hurries up and decides to make Martin his avatar.

[exxon]

Visiting Cal today.

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4526746&name=West_Recruiting&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fesp n%2fblog%2findex%3fentryID%3d4526746%26name%3dWest _Recruiting

[buffwings]

i think shanny can get him to CU, maybe even tuberville. :smile2:

[exxon]

Hawkins is the only reason he's considering Colorado.

[buffwings]

Hawkins is the only reason he's considering Colorado.

fine, Hawkins can stay on as recruit coordiantor for the state of Colorado.

[Duff Man]

Hawkins is the only reason he's considering Colorado.

Cabral too.

[Hi.O]

Is he actually even considering us?

[Junction]

USC up 20-0 at the half. Pour it on Condoms!!!!! :woot:

[MtnBuff]

Is he actually even considering us?

It sounds like he is pretty open to looking at anyone right now. If he decides that he likes living in Colorado, if he makes some good friends here in HS it could give him reason to think about it. He has spent some time in Boulder and one constant is that players like and respect Cabral. He is a high school kid and very rarely does a kid his age make this big a decision without having second thoughts.

I wouldn't put our chances of getting him very high but I think that the chances that he ends up at Notre Dame are less than 25%. He is doing what he should be doing, looking at all his options and trying to figure out what is going to be the best fit for him. I certainly would be happy if he decides that the best option is us.

[F.I.M.]

Here"s another clip on Martin.....

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2009/10/07/for-prized-irish-recruit-martin-committment-simply-sparked-more/#cont




"You're a five-star recruit now," Deshaun says, "but the minute you sign that all goes away. That practice field? It's a pasture, and you're just one of the cows."

Cheryl Martin laughs at the metaphor, then says, "A degree from Notre Dame is much more prestigious than one from the University of Colorado."Only time will tell with this kid but you can't feel our chances are real good

[exxon]

Ouch.

[zbuff]

"It had a lot to do with competitiveness," she says. "Right now Stanford is not at the forefront of college football. Also, I met with (head coach) Jim Harbaugh and he did not give me the same sense that he would take care of Chris."

Because, you know, Notre Dame is so much better than Stanford. :lol:


"It's South Bend, my son can't get in too much trouble. There's nothing to do."

I don't think she understands how that works...

[Junction]

"It had a lot to do with competitiveness," she says. "Right now Stanford is not at the forefront of college football. Also, I met with (head coach) Jim Harbaugh and he did not give me the same sense that he would take care of Chris."

Because, you know, Notre Dame is so much better than Stanford. :lol:


"It's South Bend, my son can't get in too much trouble. There's nothing to do."

I don't think she understands how that works...

Mom sounds a little too involved in this whole decision... It's his life and his career.... :huh:

Unless, of course, mom would really like a unicorn and a bank of her own.... :smile2:

[Buffnik]

Parents should be more involved, not less, in the college choices of their kids. And while I don't root for Notre Dame, I'm not going to pretend that they don't offer a great education, football experience, and post-graduation alumni network. It's a good school.

[2HellNback]

I don't know what you people are sipping on, but even if he were to re-open his commitment, (which my the sounds of it--he isn't) CU wouldn't be in the running.

[buffsyko]

This kids mother sounds like she has the same attitude of lebron james mom.

[SuperiorBuff]

I spent the week in norther Indiana with a bunch of Notre Dame fans. To a man they said that Weis is a class a prick and win or lose they wouldn't mind him leaving.

[CarolinaBuff]

I spent the week in norther Indiana with a bunch of Notre Dame fans. To a man they said that Weis is a class a prick and win or lose they wouldn't mind him leaving.

Objective ND fans actually do exist. :wow:

[SuperiorBuff]

Objective ND fans actually do exist. :wow:
They were honestly at a loss about how he gets recruits to sign.

[zbuff]

Weis has do doubt done the least with the most talent. Only the power of Notre Dame history gets these kids there.

[MtnBuff]

ND is like the Bermuda Triangle of talent, it is where 4* and 5* talent goes to disappear.

[buffwings]

ND is like the Bermuda Triangle of talent, it is where 4* and 5* talent goes to disappear.


That's pretty good. Let's hope it stays that way because if they somehow learn how to use all that talent; Look OUT CFB!! :huh:

[BuffsRising]

Thought this thread deserved a bump. Hope Chris enjoyed the game yesterday, and that Notre Dame keeps tanking!

[BuffTuba]

I'm not giving up hope. I still don't like our odds, but they're better than they were yesterday.

Also, regarding Grandview, their WR Heath Davis is interesting. He's 6 feet tall, 180 lbs, runs around a 4.5, and won the Elite Hands award at a camp this summer. I'm not sure if he ended up making it to CUs camp this summer (injury), but he's very high on us. If you're watching Grandview play to check out Martin this year, definitely give a look to Davis. He could be a sleeper for us and if he has a big senior year I'd expect he'll at least be invited to walk on. So far no offers, but ASU, KSU, Cal, Nebraska & CSU are all keeping an eye on him too.

I just saw his profile on Rivals. A pretty solid looking WR. I hope we offer him or can get him to CU in some capacity. I'll start another thread to see if anybody knows anything else.

[BuffTuba]

I'm not giving up hope. I still don't like our odds, but they're better than they were yesterday.

Also, regarding Grandview, their WR Heath Davis is interesting. He's 6 feet tall, 180 lbs, runs around a 4.5, and won the Elite Hands award at a camp this summer. I'm not sure if he ended up making it to CUs camp this summer (injury), but he's very high on us. If you're watching Grandview play to check out Martin this year, definitely give a look to Davis. He could be a sleeper for us and if he has a big senior year I'd expect he'll at least be invited to walk on. So far no offers, but ASU, KSU, Cal, Nebraska & CSU are all keeping an eye on him too.

Off Topic: But I think this is important.

I just saw Heath Davis' profile on Rivals. A pretty solid looking WR. I hope we offer him or can get him to CU in some capacity. I'll start another thread to see if anybody knows anything else.

[Duff Man]

Sounding like Florida may be the team to beat with the turmoil surround Weis.

[ScottyBuff]

Sounding like Florida may be the team to beat with the turmoil surround Weis.

Wonder if that would change with a Charlie Strong to CU hire?

We can hope, I guess.

[sackman]

Is his mother going to say that getting a degree from Florida is better than one from Notre Dame?

:rolleyes:

[sliderNcider]

Florida or Oklahoma imo. Martin, Kenny Stills, and one other prospect are looking like a package deal

[SteelCity Buff]

Per ND's rival page, a headline says Martin has de-committed. Hope.

[Buffnik]

Definitely de-committed. Sounds like it will be Florida.

[Dorn09]

He does not like the Colorado weather.

[Darth Snow]

He does not like the Colorado weather.
very few do right now. high of 16 today!

[El Gringo]

He does not like the Colorado weather.

But he did like South Bend weather? :confused:

[Duff Man]

We have been out of the running for quite a while now. Colorado's weather has very little to do with decision.

[Darth Snow]

We have been out of the running for quite a while now. Colorado's weather has very little to do with decision.
probably since he attended the CSU game.

[dyemeduke]

he also attended KU

[Buffnik]

Martin gave his verbal to Cal this weekend.

[buff4bcs1985]

wow really?

[Duff Man]

He was homesick (originally from Oakland) and his mom has always wanted him to get a top-notch education. Cal has always kinda been in the background the entire time, but they have been in the conversation nonetheless.

[bombay]

One of Chris' friends/teammates just told me that Florida is the current leader for his services.

[Buffnik]

One of Chris' friends/teammates just told me that Florida is the current leader for his services.

Well, we are 1-0 in recruiting battles against Florida under Hawkins. I guess a switch to Florida would be a good thing for CU. :wink2:

[sliderNcider]

One of Chris' friends/teammates just told me that Florida is the current leader for his services.

That was like SO two weeks ago:smile2:

[BuffInVA]

Well, we are 1-0 in recruiting battles against Florida under Hawkins. I guess a switch to Florida would be a good thing for CU. :wink2:
2-0 if you count Nuckols. Remember they were after him aswell.:thumbsup:

[Buffnik]

2-0 if you count Nuckols. Remember they were after him aswell.:thumbsup:

That's right. We own Florida! :smile2:

[sliderNcider]

He ended up signing with Florida... but rumors have it he has been booted off the team. :Lurks:

[BuffNut99]

He ended up signing with Florida... but rumors have it he has been booted off the team. :Lurks:
Let's snag him. PRich 2.0

[Creebuzz]

He ended up signing with Florida... but rumors have it he has been booted off the team. :Lurks:

He signed with Cal, then used his redshirt to transfer to the gators. Even if he were to transfer again, he would have to sit yet another year.

More importantly, the kicked off team rumor may have been a dumb joke. There are conflicting reports out there.

http://mobile.twitter.com/onlygators

[lawdogg]

http://college-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/27858150

This link indicates that the story is untrue and provides a list of "Chris Martin" transgression over the years.

[buff4bcs1985]

here we go again... transferring from UF

[JRK1212]

It gets better...



"Chris and his family have indicated that it might be best for him to be closer to home (Aurora, Colo.)" said coach Will Muschamp. "We wish him nothing but the best of luck."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/gators/os-florida-martin-transfer-20110624,0,7086007.story

[Hi.O]

It gets better...



http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/gators/os-florida-martin-transfer-20110624,0,7086007.story

Oh shoot, do they mean near them in Colorado?

[Creebuzz]

The license plate number that appeared on the Gainesville Police Department arrest report for Martin’s January citation was also the same one listed on the arrest report for Janoris Jenkins’ April citation for marijuana. It had Colorado tags.

Hmmm...sounds like it might've been more than just a desire to be closer to home.

[MtnBuff]

With all the transfering he's done, I wonder how his academic situation is.

If he hasn't taken care of business in the classroom or if he has taken a bunch of classes that don't transfer he could have a tough time.

[Buffnik]

I don't question the talent, but there are other issues. I'll back Embo whichever way he goes on Martin.

[Quattro]

Really hope weed doesn't hurt this kids career even more than he's hurt it. SHould be right at home in Boulder though.

[Creebuzz]

What eligibility would he have left after two transfers? Best I can figure, he would have to sit this upcoming season and would have two to play two.

[Hi.O]

What eligibility would he have left after two transfers? Best I can figure, he would have to sit this upcoming season and would have two to play two.

Didn't he redshirt last year? If so then if he came to CU this year it would only be his 2nd year on campus. Then wouldn't he have 3 to play 3?

[DallasBuff]

Really hope weed doesn't hurt this kids career even more than he's hurt it. SHould be right at home in Boulder though.

He should have understood that from the beginning. :huh:

[Duff Man]

Do not want.

[Creebuzz]

Didn't he redshirt last year? If so then if he came to CU this year it would only be his 2nd year on campus. Then wouldn't he have 3 to play 3?

You might be right. He enrolled in summer school at Cal, but transferred before the season began so maybe that just ate the redshirt year, and this transfer from UF will eat up his RS freshman year. Seems strange that he would have 2 transfers and still play for three.

[Creebuzz]

Do not want.

Even though we're so thin at DE? Plus Barney Frank and Ron Paul are about to legalize marijuana.

[Hi.O]

Do not want.

Why not? I'd take him. He's got to do well here. What's he going to do? Transfer again? I don't think anybody but a FCS or DII team would take him then. I guess it's a character call though.

[DallasBuff]

Why not? I'd take him. He's got to do well here. What's he going to do? Transfer again? I don't think anybody but a FCS or DII team would take him then. I guess it's a character call though.

Depends on his issues....don't want a cancer in the locker room (or have him hanging with his teammates in bars on the weekends if he is a horrible influence).....Jon is building from ground zero (since dumbass burned the house down), and he does not want to introduce anyone who will negatively impact his plan....

[Duff Man]

Why not? I'd take him. He's got to do well here. What's he going to do? Transfer again? I don't think anybody but a FCS or DII team would take him then. I guess it's a character call though.

He will never make a significant impact at the Divison 1 level. There are major issues that he needs to work through.

[Quattro]

The staff has dealt with pre-madonnas before though. Why the hell not, we need the depth.

[Buffnik]

He will never make a significant impact at the Divison 1 level. There are major issues that he needs to work through.

It really depends on whether the coaches see him as an impact player. If they do, and only if they do, then it's worth having the conversation. There is risk here, and the reward must outweigh it. He also needs to convince the coaches that the risk isn't as high as an outside observer would assume. I don't have enough information to judge this fairly. That's why I'll defer to the coaches on this one... and hold them accountable.

[lawdogg]

He will never make a significant impact at the Divison 1 level. There are major issues that he needs to work through.

That's a fairly bold conclusory statement. Not saying it's untrue, just pretty dismissive of the kid.

[Duff Man]

That's a fairly bold conclusory statement. Not saying it's untrue, just pretty dismissive of the kid.

I actually do not hold anything against him. I think he is a kid who got wrapped up in the blue chip recruiting process and now is completely lost. I am not going to be mad if the coaches decide he is worth the risk, but I really wonder if he can withstand the rigors of a Pac-12 football program. I think he has all the talent in the world, but the last two years of his life have been rocky, to say the least.

I hope he gets it all figured out and finds the right spot for him. I just think he needs to think about stuff beyond football now.

[JRK1212]

If we can take these late signees who had no other scholarship offers like Cotner and McCulloch we sure as hell can take a 5-star player who might have some minor "issues."

[Buffnik]

If we can take these late signees who had no other scholarship offers like Cotner and McCulloch we sure as hell can take a 5-star player who might have some minor "issues."

Your argument is why I say it's worth pursuing. But Embree is not just charged with restocking talent here, he also has to build a winning culture. Martin only makes sense for us if he's going to be a fit for that culture.

[zbuff]

The staff has dealt with pre-madonnas before though. Why the hell not, we need the depth.

So you're saying he's more of a Grace Slick than a Lady Gaga?

[DallasBuff]

So you're saying he's more of a Grace Slick than a Lady Gaga?

I am thinking Janice Joplin.

[Darth Snow]

Hmm. Want. We can always kick him out.

[JRK1212]

Denver Post had a blurb at the end of one their articles about a week ago saying that Embree had not spoken with Martin.

Who knows if thats true or not but I would hope that Embo would activley recruit him (assuming thats not against NCAA rules) rather then just sit back and wait for a phone call from Martin.

[Quattro]

Or just maybe Embree doesn't want him on the team and that's why he hasnt talked to him.

[InTheBuff]

http://www.netbuffs.com/message_board/football/2011/July/13/697837.php

[BehindEnemyLines]

http://www.netbuffs.com/message_board/football/2011/July/13/697837.php oh geez .... I clicked that link and my recurring nightmares came back

[Lt.Col.FrankSlade]

How much eligibility does he have?

[Buffnik]

http://www.netbuffs.com/message_board/football/2011/July/13/697837.php

Weird that AZ didn't post anything about this on his own site. Anyway, it's definitely interesting info. As I said before, I trust our coaches on this one. Lots of talent, so let them do their homework and make a decision. I'll support it either way.

[Darth Snow]

Az has repeatedly said chris has no interest in cu... So this would be a change

[RalphMalph]

Want.

[leftybuff]

Great player but sounds like a head case. Fair or not, he looks like the kind of kid who bails at the first sign of adversity. You really want a player like that? I don't.

[NW Buff]

I feel bad for the kid but I am definitely in the don't want camp. That said, I would support the coaches either way.

[JRK1212]

Unless Embree is looking to become unemployed within the next couple of years he sure as hell better take Martin if he wants to come here. We need all the talent we can get. If we can take a chance on these late signees who had no scholarship offers we certainley can take one on an ex 5 star player as well. All you people saying that you don't want him or that you would support Embree if he didn't take him are crazy.

[El Gringo]

Unless Embree is looking to become unemployed within the next couple of years he sure as hell better take Martin if he wants to come here. We need all the talent we can get. If we can take a chance on these late signees who had no scholarship offers we certainley can take one on an ex 5 star player as well. All you people saying that you don't want him or that you would support Embree if he didn't take him are crazy.

So you would also advocate that Embo should have taken Brock Berglund, despite the redflags about his attitude?

[MrFrumpylane]

So you would also advocate that Embo should have taken Brock Berglund, despite the redflags about his attitude?

Was Brock a 5*?

[Darth Snow]

Was Brock a 5*?

Brock can still walk on imho.

[JRK1212]

So you would also advocate that Embo should have taken Brock Berglund, despite the redflags about his attitude?

No, different situation.

1. Brock is not nearly as talented a player as Martin is.
2. Brock was not a good fit for our system.
3. Because you have fewer on the roster there is less margin for error at the QB position then at DE. You don't have the luxary of taking chances.
4. There was a solid alternative. Embree found a QB he liked more and went with him whereas in this case he won't be able to just go out and find another 5-star DE to come here.

[leftybuff]

Unless Embree is looking to become unemployed within the next couple of years he sure as hell better take Martin if he wants to come here. We need all the talent we can get. If we can take a chance on these late signees who had no scholarship offers we certainley can take one on an ex 5 star player as well. All you people saying that you don't want him or that you would support Embree if he didn't take him are crazy.Look, if I believed he was going to stick it out, do what is required of him and play like everyone thinks he can, sure, Embo would be crazy not to take him. Unfortunately, his track record is to flake. He will be going to his third school in what, three years and hasn't palyed a down yet, what makes yo so sure his head is screwed on straight now? The guy is a monumental talent, and maybe there are reasons for why things didn't work out at Cal and Fla, but you have to wonder if you wouldn't end giving him a scholly and during his RS year watch him decide CU wasn't a fit either....

[BehindEnemyLines]

This young man might just be at the point where he knows he's out of chances, and that he would need to walk a fine line or lose the chance to play at the D1 level. I don't pretend to know what has happened with him in the past or what his situation is, I'd like to think that all this turmoil has opened his eyes.

If Embo and company are absolutely certain that he would be productive in school and on the field, and that he would not be a distraction in the locker room, then I'd be okay with Martin being a Buff. Who knows, he might just play like a person who knows this is his last chance.