'11 CO RB Adonis Ameen-Moore (Verbal to Syracuse)

[exxon]

Rivals (http://rivals.yahoo.com/colorado/football/recruiting/player-Adonis-Ameen%20Moore-83781)
Scout (http://colorado.scout.com/a.z?s=148&p=8&c=1&nid=4400533)
ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=99261&season=2011)

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JK Mullen HS (Denver, CO)


Ht: 5-foot-10
Wt: 220 lbs
Forty: 4.55 secs

Rivals rating: 3*-5.6rr; #34 RB
Scout rating: 3*, #84 RB
ESPN rating: 3*-75 grade; #117 RB

Reported Offers: Colorado, Kansas State, Northwestern, Syracuse, Utah, Colorado State

Rivals Bio:

Ameen Moore was named honorable mention all-state as a freshman in 2007.

[exxon]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1204/rise_a_moore_300.jpg
Ameen-Moore carries Mullen to state title
By Kyle Ringo
Special to ESPNRISE.com

DENVER -- When the television cameras eventually find Adonis Ameen-Moore -- and they will, because they have a way of gravitating toward young, personable athletes -- they will like what they see. He has the million-dollar smile and the gregarious personality to go with it. He's quotable, charming and a straight shooter who has eaten just the right amount of humble pie.

"My uncle named me," he said of his fitting first name. "You know, it's the Greek god of beauty."

In the moments after the Colorado large-school state championship game was decided at Invesco Field Nov. 29 with Ameen-Moore's Mullen High School defeating Cherry Creek 20-16, many of the other 16-, 17- and 18-year-olds greeted interview requests with shyness or uncertainty. Ameen-Moore embraced every question with a where-have-you-been-all-my-life manner. He patiently answered every query, to the point that his friends and relatives began heckling reporters still peppering him more than 30 minutes after the game had ended, delaying their celebration.

Prominence has its price.



More... (http://sports.espn.go.com/highschool/rise/football/news/story?id=3741989)

[exxon]

http://media.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/content/img/photos/2007/11/17/435733068_t600.jpg
Photo by Barry Gutierrez © The Rocky
Mullen's Adonis Ameen Moore scores the final touchdown as the Mustangs beat Legacy 22-6 in the 5A quarterfinals Friday (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2007/nov/17/freshman-leads-mullen/)

[bombay]

I've gotta believe that the big boy is going to outgrow the running back position. I thought he was taller than 5'10", though, so I've already been wrong about him.

[FlatironsBuff]

I hate to say it------but cornh8tr might want to skip Hinder and get this kids picture up ASAP.....try a two year mojo...can't hurt.

[Rraalph 3000]

This has got to be priority Recruit #1 for the next 2 years....I've seen him live many times and was dumbfounded at his talent from the first game he played as a freshman....kid is an absolute bruiser with excellent vision

I think he has a good shot at being the #1 RB recruit in the nation in the 2010 class

[DBT]

I know nothing about this kid. So, why do I get the feeling that he will be swept up by Texas, USC, or Florida?

[buffwings]

DH needs to establish a full commitee focused on keeping all of our in-state kids. He needs to start as early a junior high, and reconnect will ALL CO HS coaches much like Mack does in Tex@$$. Of course he needs to win in field and get the nat'l spotlight back on CU as well.

[buff4bcs1985]

getting an early start?

[buffwings]

getting an early start?
Hells Yeah!

[sliderNcider]

He is Jerome Bettis #2. I thought I read somewhere that Bama was his favorite. Or a school he liked a lot

[Junction]

He is Jerome Bettis #2.

No. He'll be a good running back, probably even have the ability to change directions... :cool:

[jrod212]

jerome bettis is one of my favorite backs ever!

[sackman]

Call me crazy, but I think we have a better shot at Hinder than Ameen-Moore. It could be my deep seeded dislike for Mullen, but that program is filled with mercenaries. Mercenaries have no loyalty to anybody, much less their own community. Mullen players don't view Colorado as their home, and are therefore more difficult to convince to stay here. It's not to say that we have no shot, but we have no advantage over Notre Dumb, Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, whoever that we would have with a kid from any other Colorado High School.

[Buffarino]

It could be my deep seeded dislike for Mullen, but that program is filled with mercenaries. Mercenaries have no loyalty to anybody, much less their own community. Mullen players don't view Colorado as their home, and are therefore more difficult to convince to stay here. It's not to say that we have no shot, but we have no advantage over Notre Dumb, Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, whoever that we would have with a kid from any other Colorado High School.

I agree so much I said the same thing 15 months ago. :thumbsup:

http://www.allbuffs.com/forums/showpost.php?p=232201&postcount=1

[Rraalph 3000]

I agree so much I said the same thing 15 months ago. :thumbsup:

http://www.allbuffs.com/forums/showpost.php?p=232201&postcount=1


Call me crazy, but I think we have a better shot at Hinder than Ameen-Moore. It could be my deep seeded dislike for Mullen, but that program is filled with mercenaries. Mercenaries have no loyalty to anybody, much less their own community. Mullen players don't view Colorado as their home, and are therefore more difficult to convince to stay here. It's not to say that we have no shot, but we have no advantage over Notre Dumb, Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, whoever that we would have with a kid from any other Colorado High School.

**** you both....:lol:....sign me up for 1 Mullen kid that turned down soccer scholarships to just step foot on the school of my dreams because CU & Colorado is home....that's such a BS blanketed statement I almost threw up for laughing too hard, since I can think of so many Mullen friends of mine that have contributed greatly to CU (sports & the school).

I'm not 100% confident by this statement, but I think that Mullen (in recent years...not historically since they were a small boys school only until the late 80's) most likely has provided more football recruits to the Buffs than any other local H.S

The only reason why Adonis will be a difficult recruit to real in will be because he'll be the #1 recruit in the nation and if we can't right the ship and start winning games, it would be hard for ANY kid to pick a floundering program like us. The "Cu is an up & coming program" BS has worn off....WE MUST WIN SOME GAMES THIS YEAR

[87toInfinity]

**** you both....:lol:....sign me up for 1 Mullen kid that turned down soccer scholarships to just step foot on the school of my dreams because CU & Colorado is home....that's such a BS blanketed statement I almost threw up for laughing too hard, since I can think of so many Mullen friends of mine that have contributed greatly to CU (sports & the school).

I'm not 100% confident by this statement, but I think that Mullen (in recent years...not historically since they were a small boys school only until the late 80's) most likely has provided more football recruits to the Buffs than any other local H.S

The only reason why Adonis will be a difficult recruit to real in will be because he'll be the #1 recruit in the nation and if we can't right the ship and start winning games, it would be hard for ANY kid to pick a floundering program like us. The "Cu is an up & coming program" BS has worn off....WE MUST WIN SOME GAMES THIS YEAR

That's good that you and others are examples against the theory, but I think it holds some weight.

[sackman]

I'm not 100% confident by this statement, but I think that Mullen (in recent years...not historically since they were a small boys school only until the late 80's) most likely has provided more football recruits to the Buffs than any other local H.S


Denver East - 2 recruits in 2009
Mullen - ZERO.

OK, so that's just one year, but still. Denver East isn't near the football factory that Mullen is.
Instead of looking at how many Mullen kids come to CU, how about looking at the percentage of D-1 players from Mullen who go to CU compared to other schools? I don't have the figures, and they may be difficult to get, but I would suspect that a much lower percentage of Mullen D-1 recruits end up at CU as opposed to kids from other Colorado high schools. Mullen is stocked with D-1 talent. Always has been. It stands to reason that a program that pushes out so many D-1 kids would send a certain number to CU.

[Buffarino]

I'm not 100% confident by this statement, but I think that Mullen (in recent years...not historically since they were a small boys school only until the late 80's) most likely has provided more football recruits to the Buffs than any other local H.S

Define 'recent years' and we'll go take a look.

My comments were not related to all Mullen HS graduates, but specifically the football team. The football players are recruited from all over the Denver Metro area.

And I did mention that there are folks who still go to CU, but it seems the majority of D-I level players have the mercenary mentality.

[Rraalph 3000]

Denver East - 2 recruits in 2009
Mullen - ZERO.

OK, so that's just one year, but still. Denver East isn't near the football factory that Mullen is.
Instead of looking at how many Mullen kids come to CU, how about looking at the percentage of D-1 players from Mullen who go to CU compared to other schools? I don't have the figures, and they may be difficult to get, but I would suspect that a much lower percentage of Mullen D-1 recruits end up at CU as opposed to kids from other Colorado high schools. Mullen is stocked with D-1 talent. Always has been. It stands to reason that a program that pushes out so many D-1 kids would send a certain number to CU.

I agree to a certain extent here and I've been blaming Dave Logan for being a terrible recruiter for his alma matter, and I have wished that we landed many more Mullen guys than we've been able to...BUT, this thinking that it's only Mullen is pure BS, because some of the biggest guys to leave the state have played for other programs especially Cherry Creek (yes, I will drag these scumbags in the debate as well :lol:)

I'd be interested in comparing high schools in CO to see how many players that played D1 football went to CU & went elsewhere....I'm certain that Mullen would have a decent # that stayed & left as with many many other schools

[Buffarino]

I agree to a certain extent here and I've been blaming Dave Logan for being a terrible recruiter for his alma matter, and I have wished that we landed many more Mullen guys than we've been able to...BUT, this thinking that it's only Mullen is pure BS, because some of the biggest guys to leave the state have played for other programs especially Cherry Creek (yes, I will drag these scumbags in the debate as well :lol:)

I'd be interested in comparing high schools in CO to see how many players that played D1 football went to CU & went elsewhere....I'm certain that Mullen would have a decent # that stayed & left as with many many other schools

There are currently 3 Mullen players on CU's roster. There are 4 Creek players and Mullen has had WAY more D-I talent than Creek in recent years.

[Rraalph 3000]

Define 'recent years' and we'll go take a look.

My comments were not related to all Mullen HS graduates, but specifically the football team. The football players are recruited from all over the Denver Metro area.

And I did mention that there are folks who still go to CU, but it seems the majority of D-I level players have the mercenary mentality.

Like I already said above....I'm not going to completely disagree here, because there are a lot of kids that come to Mullen so that they can play in the spotlight and get some national looks

I would also like to argue that CU hasn't done a really good job of persuing some of the Mullen guys as well....there were a few they could have signed last year that we didn't persue until too late...Charles Ragland & Alex Logan being ones that frustrated me

[Rraalph 3000]

There are currently 3 Mullen players on CU's roster. There are 4 Creek players and Mullen has had WAY more D-I talent than Creek in recent years.

Considering they both played in the Title Game...I'm thinking this is an overstatement...despite the fact that I like hearing that Mullen > Creek :smile2:

[Buffarino]

Considering they both played in the Title Game...I'm thinking this is an overstatement...despite the fact that I like hearing that Mullen > Creek :smile2:

Mullen is always loaded with D-I talent. Probably moreso than any other school in the state. Doesn't mean they are always the best team, although they're usually in the thick of it.

And considering that Mullen won this year's title game, it would be hard to say they weren't the best team.

[sackman]

There are currently 3 Mullen players on CU's roster. There are 4 Creek players and Mullen has had WAY more D-I talent than Creek in recent years.

There's only THREE kids from Mullen on CU's roster!?

Hell, there's three from Boulder High (Smart, Gouin, Pericak), and Boulder High isn't anywhere close to the football factory that Mullen is.

I think that seals it, personally.

[Rraalph 3000]

Ok...This is what I could find on Mullen recruits by going of the Colorado top 25 recruits list on Rivals and finding where they went...I only looked at Mullen, and I'm sure there's interesting info on other schools

2009 - Mullen - 3 D1 Signings - (CU = 0/2 - Ragland was our fault and we never really wanted him)
- Alex Logan – Cal
- Ryan Hewitt – Stanford
- Charles Ragland – Cal (CU did NOT offer til late)

2008- Mullen – 4 D-1 signings - (CU = 1/2 of guys we recruited)
- Bryce Givens – Colorado
- Nolan Breswster – Texas (CU had no shot as his dad coaching @ Minn.)
- Jimmy Miller – SDSU (CU Did NOT Recruit)
- Jonathan Gaye – CSU (CU Did NOT Recruit)

2007 - Mullen – 5 D-1 signings (CU = 1/3 of guys we recruited)
- Clint Brewster – Minnesota (CU did not recruit)
- Devin Agilar – Washington
- Steve Watson – Michigan
- Shawn Daniels – Colorado
- Phillip Morelli – CSU (CU Did not Recruit)


2006 - Mullen – 3 D1 Recruits (CU = 0/1 of guys we went after)
- Chris Guarnero – Cal
- Chris Carney – KJuco (CU Did NOT Recruit)
- Ricky Brewer – CSU (CU Did NOT Recruit)

2005 -Mullen – 3 D1 Recruits (CU = 2/4)
- Maurice Greer – Colorado
- Jesse White – OU
- Grant Crunkleton – ASU
- Ben Burney - Colorado

2004 - Mullen - 0 Recruits

2003 - Mullen - 2 D1 Recruits (CU = 2/2)
- Brian Daniels – Colorado
- Stephonne Robinson – Colorado


Bottom Line: CU has landed 6 out of 14 (43%) of Mullen guys recruited....Definately not good numbers, but not bad either...BUT I do remember Barnett doing very well with Mullen guys (see 2003 & 2005 years) and Hawkins has yet to establish that relationship....this could obviously be due to our lack of success in recent years as well as Dave Logan being a TERRIBLE ambassador for the Buffs

[96 Buff]

Dave Logan being a TERRIBLE ambassador for the Buffs

Dave's job is not to recruit for the Buffs. His job is to help his athletes get scholarships wherever they can & want to go.

[Rraalph 3000]

Dave's job is not to recruit for the Buffs. His job is to help his athletes get scholarships wherever they can & want to go.

I understand that, and he does a pretty good job at that seeing that the guys that didn't sign with the Buffs on my list above went to Stanford, Cal, Texas, Oklahoma, Michigan, ASU & Minnesota...I just wish that he could help Coach Hawk want to go after & then swing a few more of his guys our way :thumbsup:

[Buffarino]

There's only THREE kids from Mullen on CU's roster!?

Hell, there's three from Boulder High (Smart, Gouin, Pericak), and Boulder High isn't anywhere close to the football factory that Mullen is.

I think that seals it, personally.

My thoughts exactly.

[Highwalker]

2006 - Mullen – 3 D1 Recruits (CU = 0/1 of guys we went after)
- Chris Guarnero – Cal
- Chris Carney – KJuco (CU Did NOT Recruit)
- Ricky Brewer – CSU (CU Did NOT Recruit)



This is false. Brewer was CU commit up until the coaching change.

[Buffarino]

Ok...This is what I could find on Mullen recruits by going of the Colorado top 25 recruits list on Rivals and finding where they went...I only looked at Mullen, and I'm sure there's interesting info on other schools

2009 - Mullen - 3 D1 Signings - (CU = 0/2 - Ragland was our fault and we never really wanted him)
- Alex Logan – Cal
- Ryan Hewitt – Stanford
- Charles Ragland – Cal (CU did NOT offer til late)

2008- Mullen – 4 D-1 signings - (CU = 1/2 of guys we recruited)
- Bryce Givens – Colorado
- Nolan Breswster – Texas (CU had no shot as his dad coaching @ Minn.)
- Jimmy Miller – SDSU (CU Did NOT Recruit)
- Jonathan Gaye – CSU (CU Did NOT Recruit)

2007 - Mullen – 5 D-1 signings (CU = 1/3 of guys we recruited)
- Clint Brewster – Minnesota (CU did not recruit)
- Devin Agilar – Washington
- Steve Watson – Michigan
- Shawn Daniels – Colorado
- Phillip Morelli – CSU (CU Did not Recruit)


2006 - Mullen – 3 D1 Recruits (CU = 0/1 of guys we went after)
- Chris Guarnero – Cal
- Chris Carney – KJuco (CU Did NOT Recruit)
- Ricky Brewer – CSU (CU Did NOT Recruit)

2005 -Mullen – 3 D1 Recruits (CU = 2/4)
- Maurice Greer – Colorado
- Jesse White – OU
- Grant Crunkleton – ASU
- Ben Burney - Colorado

2004 - Mullen - 0 Recruits

2003 - Mullen - 2 D1 Recruits (CU = 2/2)
- Brian Daniels – Colorado
- Stephonne Robinson – Colorado


Bottom Line: CU has landed 6 out of 14 (43%) of Mullen guys recruited....Definately not good numbers, but not bad either...BUT I do remember Barnett doing very well with Mullen guys (see 2003 & 2005 years) and Hawkins has yet to establish that relationship....this could obviously be due to our lack of success in recent years as well as Dave Logan being a TERRIBLE ambassador for the Buffs

Out of curiosity, why did you start at 2003? Because that year is clearly an outlier in terms of CU being 2/2. I would also question the inclusion of Mo Greer on that list as he did not ever enroll at CU, although I suppose you could make the argument that he did sign an LOI.

I also think the 'CU did not recruit' disclaimers you put in there are a bit misleading. CU didn't recruit several of them because they had their sights set higher out of the gate.

[Rraalph 3000]

Out of curiosity, why did you start at 2003? Because that year is clearly an outlier in terms of CU being 2/2. I would also question the inclusion of Mo Greer on that list as he did not ever enroll at CU, although I suppose you could make the argument that he did sign an LOI.

2003 was the furthest I could look back...couldn't find all the info. laid in front of me before 2003

Mo Greer did sign a LOI, and there are other extenuating circumstances with a # of players who did & did not sign with the Buffs on the list....trying to nitpick what happend on the recruit trail, or what happend to the kids after they signed is moot in this argument

[Rraalph 3000]

This is false. Brewer was CU commit up until the coaching change.

You're right...I misread that one...my bads

[Buffarino]

2003 was the furthest I could look back...couldn't find all the info. laid in front of me before 2003

Mo Greer did sign a LOI, and there are other extenuating circumstances with a # of players who did & did not sign with the Buffs on the list....trying to nitpick what happend on the recruit trail, or what happend to the kids after they signed is moot in this argument

Maybe, but the argument is that not many of Mullen's D-I players go to CU. I think your list reinforces that fact.

Even if you count Mo Greer, that is only 6 out of 20 to go to CU in the past 5 years. That's not a great percentage, especially when you take into account that only 3 of the ones who picked CU were highly sought after recruits (Givens, Greer and Brian Daniels).

[Rraalph 3000]

I also think the 'CU did not recruit' disclaimers you put in there are a bit misleading. CU didn't recruit several of them because they had their sights set higher out of the gate.

And some of the recruits on there that we offered we hardly recruited at all...such as Ryan Hewitt & Alex Logan this year...

Obviously the more we try to dig into this argument, the less we know

[Rraalph 3000]

Maybe, but the argument is that not many of Mullen's D-I players go to CU. I think your list reinforces that fact.

Even if you count Mo Greer, that is only 6 out of 20 to go to CU in the past 5 years. That's not a great percentage, especially when you take into account that only 3 of them were highly sought after recruits (Givens, Greer and Brian Daniels).

I don't disagree with your point...but offhand when I was looking at other schools such as Cherry Creek, the percentage of Mullen kids landed was on par or better with them

Mullen sticks out a little bit because there are such a large # of kids that sign elsewhere, so when we land 1 of 4 you see 3 misses...trying to compare Mullen to Boulder or something like Sacky did is also unfair because they get maybe 1 D-1 recruit every 2-3 years, and CU get a fair amount of walkons from these programs that shouldn't be included in this argument

[Junction]

Dave's job is not to recruit for the Buffs.

In that case Dave has the wrong job.... :cool:

[sackman]

Dave's job is not to recruit for the Buffs. His job is to help his athletes get scholarships wherever they can & want to go.

He already did that when he recruited them to Mullen in the first place. It's a mercenary mentality. I think the numbers that have been offered here not only reinforce that notion, but prove it.

[RoadrunnerBB]

There is no doubt Ameen-Moore is a buiser, but show me 220 lbs RBs in high school who arent, especially running behind a line littered with D1 talent. Ameen-Moore does not have the foot speed that makes big backs, like Jerome Bettis and Brandon Jacobs effective....The good news is, he will only be a junior next year and still has time to develop.

...I think there are two 11' prospects on Mullens roster who are going to be better overall prospects than Adonis: Rayshon Williams WR is Brandon Marshalls nephew and IF Marshall stays in Denver that means Williams stays in Colorado and you would have to like the Buffs chances. The second prospect is LB Leilon Willingham who once he physically matures (the same can be said for Ameen-Moore though) is going to be a beast.....
(http://stats.rockypreps.com/football/boys/players/168191/2008-2009)

[Rraalph 3000]

There is no doubt Ameen-Moore is a buiser, but show me 220 lbs RBs in high school who arent, especially running behind a line littered with D1 talent. Ameen-Moore does not have the foot speed that makes big backs, like Jerome Bettis and Brandon Jacobs effective....The good news is, he will only be a junior next year and still has time to develop.

...I think there are two 11' prospects on Mullens roster who are going to be better overall prospects than Adonis: Rayshon Williams WR is Brandon Marshalls nephew and IF Marshall stays in Denver that means Williams stays in Colorado and you would have to like the Buffs chances. The second prospect is LB Leilon Willingham who once he physically matures (the same can be said for Ameen-Moore though) is going to be a beast.....
(http://stats.rockypreps.com/football/boys/players/168191/2008-2009)

It's too bad that we have 0 shot at these kids, why even bother to recruit them because they all have a mercinary mentality and are going to go anywhere else but CU.

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM!

I'm not much for wild conspiracy theories, so I'll take what I think the numbers really mean. Every kid that is heavily recruited wants to play for a place that is going to win and they have a shot at a national title. In the past 7 years CU has done nothing to inspire kids to think that could happen. I might believe this cockamamy if we win 10 games this year and just as many the following year and all these Mullen guys still leave. Until then, I'll take it for what it really means....that CU football has been terrible as of recent years.

And with that said...I'm done with this argument

[AlferdJasper]

I read somewhere that someone was putting together a contingent of CU fans to show up at an Austin Hinder game to show him some love this fall. It's an intriguing idea.

If you think Mullen has athletes that would be a good fit for CU, pick a game, promote it, and have a black and gold cheering section, showing them we are interested.

There's no NCAA rule against attending HS games if you don't intentionally interact with athletes other than showing team spirit/support.

To be on a player's radar, WE as fans have to show interest as well as hope he responds to what our program offers. It's something a lot easier for local CU fans to do, than say fly in a group from Stanford to cheer.

[Denver_sc]

I read somewhere that someone was putting together a contingent of CU fans to show up at an Austin Hinder game to show him some love this fall. It's an intriguing idea.

If you think Mullen has athletes that would be a good fit for CU, pick a game, promote it, and have a black and gold cheering section, showing them we are interested.

There's no NCAA rule against attending HS games if you don't intentionally interact with athletes other than showing team spirit/support.

To be on a player's radar, WE as fans have to show interest as well as hope he responds to what our program offers. It's something a lot easier for local CU fans to do, than say fly in a group from Stanford to cheer.

THIS.

I have little experience with HS games anywhere outside of CO, even though I now live in OR. I wonder if other more FB crazy schools don't do this. It probably would not be that hard to organize, especially if there are games that are in/around Boulder. For Hinder, I think that Steamboat plays AT Glenwood Springs this year; that's not THAT far from Boulder. Trying to get some folks to a Littleton game (Mister Jones) and a Denver East game next season wouldn't be a bad idea, and neither would getting a contingent to a Mullen game.

Now, who wants to spearhead it? :smile2:

[Rraalph 3000]

THIS.

I have little experience with HS games anywhere outside of CO, even though I now live in OR. I wonder if other more FB crazy schools don't do this. It probably would not be that hard to organize, especially if there are games that are in/around Boulder. For Hinder, I think that Steamboat plays AT Glenwood Springs this year; that's not THAT far from Boulder. Trying to get some folks to a Littleton game (Mister Jones) and a Denver East game next season wouldn't be a bad idea, and neither would getting a contingent to a Mullen game.

Now, who wants to spearhead it? :smile2:

I'll coordinate a Mullen/Creek game....maybe somehow we can sway Kain Coulter from Creek as well

[BehindEnemyLines]

.......
The only reason why Adonis will be a difficult recruit to real in will be because he'll be the #1 recruit in the nation .....

I seriously doubt this Rr. He may be an exceptional player, but he'll be overshadowed by other players in heavily populated states like tejass, caleeefornia, fla., etc., where the recruiting services have taken up residence.

[Rraalph 3000]

I seriously doubt this Rr. He may be an exceptional player, but he'll be overshadowed by other players in heavily populated states like tejass, caleeefornia, fla., etc., where the recruiting services have taken up residence.

Well the dude is being written up already on Rivals having not even played his junior year....check the front page of the CU Rivals....he's the main story...I'd say he has a good shot

[AlferdJasper]

I'll coordinate a Mullen/Creek game....maybe somehow we can sway Kain Coulter from Creek as well


I think all the CU fans need to sport the black and gold, and sit on one side of the stadium. So either we split up, or we insult one side or the other team.

I think we have a better chance at impressing Mullen guys, but that's just me.

Or we could go to one Mullen game - against anyone else,
and one Creek game - against anyone else.

Denver East for sure. I'll be at some of their games anyway - know the kids. Have to keep an eye on big Lexington Smith and Michael Waddy. LS is a good lean toward CU if my sources are right. Waddy not leaning anywhere at the moment.

But I could pack away the red for an afternoon or friday night and wear CU gear as part of the effort. I know it would bring a tear to Woolfork's eye to see a group of Buffs cheer on his team.

BTW ... not that it matters, but East's principal is also a CU grad. Heard he said he was renewing season tickets on signing day.

[AlferdJasper]

THIS.

For Hinder, I think that Steamboat plays AT Glenwood Springs this year; that's not THAT far from Boulder.

If Steamboat plays at Glenwood, that's the game I'd be at.
Just waiting for the schedules to be posted.

[Duff Man]

Well the dude is being written up already on Rivals having not even played his junior year....check the front page of the CU Rivals....he's the main story...I'd say he has a good shot

There are several top sophomores from other states that are being written about as well. He will not be the top recruit in the nation. He probably will not be the top RB recruit in the nation. But he will be an elite prospect most likely.

[sweaty teets]

I seriously doubt this Rr. He may be an exceptional player, but he'll be overshadowed by other players in heavily populated states like tejass, caleeefornia, fla., etc., where the recruiting services have taken up residence.

:confused: take a look at the rivals 100 right now, the number 1 player is from st. paul, minnesota. much ****tier than colorado prep.

[Junction]

If Steamboat plays at Glenwood, that's the game I'd be at.
Just waiting for the schedules to be posted.

That game could be a madhouse. GWS doesn't exactly have a 15,000 seat field. And word I'm getting from those who have seen Hinder is that it might be best not to believe the hype... In fact, one person who had seen both told me that GWS QB from last year was a vastly superior player to Hinder. Only problem is he measured under 6'0", and he's headed off to a D-III school in Montana.

[AlferdJasper]

That game could be a madhouse. GWS doesn't exactly have a 15,000 seat field. And word I'm getting from those who have seen Hinder is that it might be best not to believe the hype... In fact, one person who had seen both told me that GWS QB from last year was a vastly superior player to Hinder. Only problem is he measured under 6'0", and he's headed off to a D-III school in Montana.


I did notice yesterday that Hinder was beat out this year for 3A all-state QB by Dakota Stonehouse (who went Div, II), but I just figured it was because he has such a cool Hollywood name.
:smile2:

[FightCu1414]

CHeck out some Columbine games so we can get Danny Spond, he is a great athlete. Fun to watch on defense when he plays it as well. STATE CHAMPS!!!!

[AlferdJasper]

CHeck out some Columbine games so we can get Danny Spond, he is a great athlete. Fun to watch on defense when he plays it as well. STATE CHAMPS!!!!


Should we start a thread wherein fans know when a CU contingent is going to wear the B&G, attend a high school game (and which side we are sitting on) and who we are cheering for?

It's long ways off, but we could do it. At least we'd quit taking this thread OT so often.

And ... state champs? ... I think that was Mullen. :rolleyes:

Or, are you planning ahead for this year's big comeback for Columbine?

[Buffarino]

And ... state champs? ... I think that was Mullen. :rolleyes:

:yeahthat:

And I'm a Creek alum...:lol:

[exxon]

Bump

[Duff Man]

Early top three of Texas, Alabama, and CU. Luckily next year's RB class in Texas might have three 5* quality players so they might not have room.

IMO, we should take two in 2010 and then it should be Adonis or bust for 2011.

[dio]

Early top three of Texas, Alabama, and CU. Luckily next year's RB class in Texas might have three 5* quality players so they might not have room.

IMO, we should take two in 2010 and then it should be Adonis or bust for 2011.

Sacky - does your bank have any open management positions?

[sackman]

Sacky - does your bank have any open management positions?


Are you kidding me?

[dio]

Are you kidding me?

Yes.... joke in reference to DScott :huh:

Apparently NOT FUNNY :lol:

[sackman]

Yes.... joke in reference to DScott :huh:

Apparently NOT FUNNY :lol:


I got the reference, but there ain't any banks hiring anybody right now.

[exxon]

Whoa, tough crowd, tough crowd.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BpDNdb-o2MU/Sa8lHPOckgI/AAAAAAAAAuQ/vevLyspCXBk/s400/Picture+23.jpg

[Buffarino]

Sacky - does your bank have any open management positions?

Hell, let's just give sacky's job to his mom!:lol:

[InTheBuff]

I got the reference, but there ain't any banks hiring anybody right now.

my credit union is hiring...

Teller III
Loan Officer
Branch Supervisor
Branch manager II

this 'banking mess' has helped credit unions...
New Frontier's failure was good for the cu here in Longmont

[sackman]

this 'banking mess' has helped credit unions...
New Frontier's failure was good for the cu here in Longmont


Yeah, it helped us with deposits, too. Moreso for our NoCo branches than down here, but it's certainly helped.

[buff4bcs1985]

sacky do you own your bank or what i dunno what you do

[sackman]

sacky do you own your bank or what i dunno what you do

I own a really, really, really, really small part of the bank.

I'm a commercial banker/lender.

[SkiTownUSA]

I own a really, really, really, really small part of the bank.

I'm a commercial banker/lender.

As a stock holder can I say I own a really, really, really, really small part of a lot of companies?:lol:

[sackman]

As a stock holder can I say I own a really, really, really, really small part of a lot of companies?:lol:

Yes you can.

[Duff Man]

:bump:

[exxon]

Sounds more and more like he's heading out of state. :sad1:

[Duff Man]

I actually think we're in good shape here, provided we do well on the field this year. That goes for his 2011 teammates too.

[Buffnik]

I actually think we're in good shape here, provided we do well on the field this year. That goes for his 2011 teammates too.

We're in really good shape being in his top 3. It really sounds like he'd love for CU to return to the top 25 this year and be able to offer him everything he wants in a college program (contender & his family/friends get to see him play).

[exxon]

We're in really good shape being in his top 3. It really sounds like he'd love for CU to return to the top 25 this year and be able to offer him everything he wants in a college program (contender & his family/friends get to see him play).

I think we are a distant third. I think Adonis is set to play for a big time program.

[sweaty teets]

texas is absolutely stacked for 2011 running backs next year, they probably wont even offer him. it will come down to us and bama unless some other viable suitor catches his eye.

[exxon]

Oh there will be other schools. Trust me.

[Duff Man]

Win some games and get him on campus a couple more times this Fall and we'll be in great shape. I like our chances.

[sweaty teets]

Oh there will be other schools. Trust me.

bring em on. :devil:

[Darth Snow]

bring em on. :devil:
:yeahthat: :woot: :gobuffs: Hawk is looking for more giants to take down when it comes to Colo players.

[buffsyko]

:thumbsup:

[Unleash Hell]

I think we are a distant third. I think Adonis is set to play for a big time program.

I am not a recruiting guru like you, but even I know that it's silly to think that the buffs have little chance of landing him when it is 20 months until he signs a LOI, 20 months! The kid is only halfway through high school! Hawk has closed on some good talent in the past, if he is still somewhat interested in CU, I say the buffs have an excellent chance at him, especially if we have a good year like Boulder Buff said.

[sackman]

If CU goes out and has a couple running backs put up big numbers this year, goes to the B12 CG, and plays in a halfway decent bowl, then I'd say we have an excellent shot at the kid. Figure this - he'll be a freshman when D Scott and R Stewart are both Seniors. That's perfect timing, especially if our O-Line recruiting remains as solid as it has been.

[Dorn09]

On the field success over the next 2 years will close the gap between other programs IMO. I think thats the only chance we have.

[87toInfinity]

On the field success over the next 2 years will close the gap between other programs IMO. I think thats the only chance we have.

We have been able to get recruits with bad previous seasons, but that was with a new coaching staff during "rebuilding" years. At this point we do need to show we are becoming a good team on the field, not a team that "could be good in a few years."

On the field success determines a lot of things over the next couple of years. Recruits, coaching staff, fan support, etc. Need wins.

[dyemeduke]

So...did Moore just get pegged as the top overall prospect at this point by Scout for the class of 2011? :)

[exxon]

So...did Moore just get pegged as the top overall prospect at this point by Scout for the class of 2011? :)
No. All the four stars are in alphabetical order.

[Rraalph 3000]

:bump:

Hey...we've got a big opening for another giant recruit....step right up buddy!

[Hank]

Win some games and get him on campus a couple more times this Fall and we'll be in great shape. I like our chances.
:lol:

[White_Rabbit]

edit, didn't want to be negative on a recruits thread.

We could really use this guy now, maybe more incentive to come here now? No 5* blocking his path. He's definitely a must have next year along with his teammates.

[Buffnik]

CU has stepped up as the first program to offer Adonis. :thumbsup:

The 2 out-of-state programs he now mentions are Washington and Nebraska. Sounds to me as if he'd like to stay home, but wants to see CU turn the corner. My guess is that if we go bowling, Adonis will end up being a Buff.

Scout article reporting offer (http://colorado.scout.com/2/935703.html)

[Duff Man]

I think he may be the third best college prospect on his team. Depending on how RB recruiting goes this class though, we may be looking at taking 2-3 RBs in the 2011 class.

[sackman]

Oh, so all we have to do is win some games? That ought to be easy enough.

I'd really love to see this kid in Boulder. We can't let him slip away.

[Darth Snow]

winning is cool. Kids like cool. wins are the best recruiting tool.

[sackman]

I suppose it's debatable as to whether he is the best player in Colorado or not, but he will certainly be the most highly touted player in Colorado next year. We can't afford to be losing players of this caliber. The staff needs to be very diligent on this.

[Duff Man]

I suppose it's debatable as to whether he is the best player in Colorado or not, but he will certainly be the most highly touted player in Colorado next year. We can't afford to be losing players of this caliber. The staff needs to be very diligent on this.

Maybe by the high school sportswriters. But I think the odds are pretty good Leilon Willingham or Brendon Austin are going to be more highly touted players in recruiting circles.

[dyemeduke]

Next year's recruiting cycle is huge in CO. There are some great players, and this really aggravates my annoyance with Hawk's keeping his job. If he doesn't win, he's a lame duck coach. I hope these kids realize how great of a place Boulder is, and how good of an academic institution CU is. There's a lot to love about Boulder.

I think our first target needs to be that transfer from KState that wants to walk-on at CU. He needs to keep talking to his former teammates and convince them - CU is a great school with good football roots. They can help bring the program back to where it should be - national prominence.

AAM may not be the best prospect in CO, but he is still an important get in my opinion. So are his teammates and others in the state...I hope Hawk is able to sell these kids on the university.

[MCskid]

Maybe by the high school sportswriters. But I think the odds are pretty good Leilon Willingham or Brendon Austin are going to be more highly touted players in recruiting circles.

who are these two guys, as well as who are the d1 players in state for next year? seems like next year co. will have alot of d1 kids.

[Buffnik]

who are these two guys, as well as who are the d1 players in state for next year? seems like next year co. will have alot of d1 kids.

If you take a look at the "sticky" threads at the top of the forum, you'll notice that we have some very useful resource threads for checking out players CU is looking at. We put some extra in-state guys in that would likely become preferred walk-ons if they don't get any D1 scholarship offers.

Recruit Profile Links for 2010 Class (http://www.allbuffs.com/showthread.php?32057-10-Recruit-Profile-Index)

Recruit Profile Links for 2011 Class (http://www.allbuffs.com/showthread.php?32886-11-Recruit-Profile-Index)

And, yes, 2011 is looking strong for in-state recruiting. There are a number of good linebackers, some good running backs, some good o-linemen and even some guys at WR and DB who might be BCS caliber (unusual for Colorado prep football).

:smile:

[legacy17]

I would match up Corey Ayers LB at Legacy against Leilon Willingham any day of the week. Who is Leilon Willingham? he came from no where to be a top player

[Buffnik]

I would match up Corey Ayers LB at Legacy against Leilon Willingham any day of the week. Who is Leilon Willingham? he came from no where to be a top player

As both a sophomore and a junior he's been a big part of a defense that's won consecutive 5A state championships. He's also got prototypical size and speed for a linebacker. Willingham is a really great prospect. That's nothing against Corey, who could really move up by camping well, adding some bulk, and having another big year as a senior.

Anyway, let's try to get this back on topic. It is the Adonis profile thread after all. :smile:

[White_Rabbit]

So how good is this guy? Top 100 in the nation? Top 10 RB in the nation?

Glad to see we stepped up with his first offer, hopefully Hawk and crew try their offer everyone philosophy on Mullen next year.

[Buffnik]

So how good is this guy? Top 100 in the nation? Top 10 RB in the nation?

Glad to see we stepped up with his first offer, hopefully Hawk and crew try their offer everyone philosophy on Mullen next year.

To give you some idea, Scout ranked 29 running backs as 4* or better for the 2010 class (6 were 5* prospects). For 2011, so far they've given a 4* or better to 18 guys (1 is a 5*). Adonis is one of their early 4* guys. It's going to vary from year to year, but it's a safe bet that he's considered one of the top 30 running backs in the country heading into his senior year.

[White_Rabbit]

Sounds pretty good, probably a top 250 player or so. What's the question on him? Someone posted that he may not be fast enough, is that it? Judging by his size, hopefully he has a pretty brutal running style.

[sackman]

He's a big, strong runner with good explosiveness through the hole. He may not have the breakaway speed that others possess, but he is a load to deal with.

[Duff Man]

Early 4* on Scout. Ranked the #23 RB as well.

[Duff Man]

He is on the Rivals top 250 watch list for 2011.

[neil29fp]

He is on the Rivals top 250 watch list for 2011.

Am I reading is this wrong or is he ranked 6th out of 250--if so :wow:

[BuffInVA]

Am I reading is this wrong or is he ranked 6th out of 250--if so :wow:
Correct and most likely top 2 or 3 RB it appears to me.

[sweaty teets]

oregon is his leader.:pissed:

[Duff Man]

Oregon is certainly stocking up on RBs.

[TheEvilBeak]

oregon is his leader.:pissed:

Oregon appears to like the Thunder and Lightning combos that USC used with Bush/White. Oregon will need a replacement for their thumper that is graduatiing.

[buffaholic]

I would match up Corey Ayers LB at Legacy against Leilon Willingham any day of the week. Who is Leilon Willingham? he came from no where to be a top player

Please tell me you aren't really Corey's dad as you state on this other thread! Hyping Corey is a dis-service as a parent. Questioning "his competition"? Seriously? This is the quickest way to assure Corey is avoided like the plague....

http://www.allbuffs.com/showthread.php/44049-2011-in-state-Recruiting?highlight=ayers (http://www.allbuffs.com/../44049-2011-in-state-Recruiting?highlight=ayers)

[White_Rabbit]

Oregon appears to like the Thunder and Lightning combos that USC used with Bush/White. Oregon will need a replacement for their thumper that is graduatiing.

Yeah it seems like it. They got a lot of lightning this year, I guess they're going for the thunder this next year.

[NW Buff]

Yeah it seems like it. They got a lot of lightning this year, I guess they're going for the thunder this next year.

LeGarrette Blount (6'2" 245) was supposed to be the thunder part this year. He was the one who got suspended for throwing the punch after the Boise game. LaMichael James (5'9" 180) had to take the majority of the snaps after that.

[White_Rabbit]

Ah yeah, I meant recruiting wise. They got 3 smallish scatback LaMichael James types, so in 2011 I'm assuming they're going to go after some bigger guys like AAM.

[White_Rabbit]

Scout has an update for AAM. Not sounding very good for us.


“I will tell you right now, Nebraska and Washington are my top two teams, and Nebraska is on top.
"Nebraska, they always produce good running backs. I like the way they play, the way they use their running backs. I’ve been liking Nebraska for a long time. I like how they are known for their backs, that’s why I’m trying to go there.”
:bang:

edit: oops forgot to link: http://nebraska.scout.com/2/949120.html

[Daaah]

Nebraska is known for their backs? I thought they were known for their defense.

[Buffnik]

Nebraska is known for their backs? I thought they were known for their defense.

They had that nice run in the late 90s, but that was over a decade ago. And CU's back were just as good in the 1990s. We actually had a Heisman winner at RB. Advantage to the Nubs on the running ability of its QBs back in the day, but we still had Hagan and that doesn't impact AMM anyway.

For the 2000s, I'll take Colorado's 5 main guys (Chris Brown, Bobby Purify, Lawrence Vickers, Hugh Charles and Rodney Stewart) over Nebraska's 5 main guys (Jammal Lord, Roy Helu, Dahrran Diedrick, Cory Ross and Marlon Lucky). Seriously, Adonis needs to get himself some better information.

[SINKRATZ]

Shows how far a coach's recruiting bulls**t can get you. Quick, name one Nub running back currently in the NFL....exactly.

[White_Rabbit]

Yeah I could definitely disagree with him on the RB part, what mostly concerns me is how Nebraska already leads for him without even offering and we're not even a close second.

[DallasBuff]

Shows how far a coach's recruiting bulls**t can get you. Quick, name one Nub running back currently in the NFL....exactly.

Ahman Green, C Buckhalter....oops, that is 2.

[TheEvilBeak]

Shows how far a coach's recruiting bulls**t can get you. Quick, name one Nub running back currently in the NFL....exactly.

Surely you jest. Quick, name me a Super Bowl winning Pro team that had 3 Nub players featured in their Offense...

[TheEvilBeak]

They had that nice run in the late 90s, but that was over a decade ago. And CU's back were just as good in the 1990s. We actually had a Heisman winner at RB. Advantage to the Nubs on the running ability of its QBs back in the day, but we still had Hagan and that doesn't impact AMM anyway.

For the 2000s, I'll take Colorado's 5 main guys (Chris Brown, Bobby Purify, Lawrence Vickers, Hugh Charles and Rodney Stewart) over Nebraska's 5 main guys (Jammal Lord, Roy Helu, Dahrran Diedrick, Cory Ross and Marlon Lucky). Seriously, Adonis needs to get himself some better information.

There's not a whole lot of difference in those 5, pending the type of Offense they are in. Scary part of that is you are using NU's worst teams in 40 years for comparison purposes. NU has always had quality backs. Conversely, Backs are really only as good as their Line so who really knows.

[TheEvilBeak]

Ahman Green, C Buckhalter....oops, that is 2.

I think Brandon jackson is still in as well. Don't follow NFL much but Ross was for a bit. May have been cut.

[Daaah]

nebraska can suck my dick

[TheEvilBeak]

nebraska can suck my dick

It appears Nebraska prefers to roll you over annually instead. WHHEEEEE WHHEEE. Just kidding. I just don't get the whole hate thing.

[Daaah]

It appears Nebraska prefers to roll you over annually instead. WHHEEEEE WHHEEE. Just kidding. I just don't get the whole hate thing.

Oh, so you're into that Japanese ****.

[bombay]

Dang. Lots of desperate trolling for a Buffs recruiting forum.

[Duff Man]

Attending NU's junior day with Connor Healy.

[AlferdJasper]

Adonis' teammate:
RB Josh Ford - the former Mullen standout left the state as a PWO for Kansas State last year but injured his wrist during summer 7-on-7s and never enrolled. He will take a couple courses at a Kansas junior college and then enroll at CU as a late-qualifying freshman (5 years to play 4). Ford told Rivals that he would recruit Mullen for CU: "If I can get into CU I am going to try to get Adonis and all those other guys at Mullen to come up to CU so we can help get the program back to the top," Ford said. "We need to stay in-state."

[buff4bcs1985]

Adonis' teammate:
RB Josh Ford - the former Mullen standout left the state as a PWO for Kansas State last year but injured his wrist during summer 7-on-7s and never enrolled. He will take a couple courses at a Kansas junior college and then enroll at CU as a late-qualifying freshman (5 years to play 4). Ford told Rivals that he would recruit Mullen for CU: "If I can get into CU I am going to try to get Adonis and all those other guys at Mullen to come up to CU so we can help get the program back to the top," Ford said. "We need to stay in-state."
didnt he say that in december

[TheEvilBeak]

Dang. Lots of desperate trolling for a Buffs recruiting forum.


Daaahs not trolling. He's always a little surly.

[AlferdJasper]

didnt he say that in december

I believe so, and he did not get into CU for Jan, but he says he is enrolling this summer and still plans to walk on.

[White_Rabbit]

I don't see this going our way at all. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I can see this guy committing soon if he gets offered by the Huskers/Huskies. :cry:

[BuffLuKe]

I doubt we get this guy but I wanna try and watch him alot this fall. I want to come up for the Georgia game hopefully, maybe I can come a day early and catch a Mullen game. One of you guys that went there would have to help me with where to go cause I have no idea where it is. Like the pic BB, Hank Gathers, loved watching those guys play. I remember games when they would put up like 140, fun to watch.

[AlferdJasper]

I want to come up for the Georgia game hopefully, maybe I can come a day early and catch a Mullen game. One of you guys that went there would have to help me with where to go cause I have no idea where it is. Like the pic BB, Hank Gathers, loved watching those guys play. I remember games when they would put up like 140, fun to watch.

Be glad to get you to a game.

If it's a home game (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mullen+high+school+denver) ...

Lowell is in between Sheridan and Federal Boulevard on the west side of Denver (streets are alphabetical, Federal going west: Federal Boulevard (3000 W), Grove, Hooker, Irving, Julian, Knox Court (3450 W), King, Lowell Boulevard (3600 W), Meade, Newton, Osceola, Patton Court (3950 W), Perry, Quitman, Raleigh, Stuart, Tennyson, Utica, Vrain, Winona Court (4700 W), Wolff, Xavier, Yates, Zenobia, then Sheridan Boulevard (5200 W).
Mullen's campus is just south of Hampden, which is a big street and is also Highway 285.

So, tell us where you are coming from and we can get you to either Sheridan and 285 (then go east on 285/Hampden to Lowell) or Federal and 285, or I-25 and 285 (and go west on 285/Hampden to Lowell.)
Easy to find, as are most high schools in Denver and surrounding area. Or use this address: 3601 S Lowell Blvd and mapquest it. Mullen has an impressive football stadium, so once you get there, you should have no trouble following signs to parking lot and finding the appropriate place to sit.

This all presumes it's a home game for Mullen, we don't know the schedule yet for HS games.
School colors are dark blue and gold, if you want to fit in. There's no reason you can't rock some CU gear, but avoid talking to recruits if you do so.
http://images.maxpreps.com/Gallery/RikMWiJmqkmSjWjpcPNgxw/zZh14-hxlUemKj9RaNtqjg/1,125/arvada_west_mullen_%28chsaa_5a_playoffs%29_boys_fo otball_thumbnail.jpg

[BuffLuKe]

lol thank you for all the info. I know their colors, seen them on tv, not in person. Only recruit i have spoke with is around here and I know his family a little so that wouldnt be a problem. How big is their stadium? Biggest high school stadium ive played in, at least by how much it seated, was Ratliff. Played in non hs stadiums that were huge but Ratliff was the biggest hs one.

[sweaty teets]

adam from rivals said that AAM's favorite changes every single week. i'm not saying he doesn't like washington and knebraska but i wouldn't take his comments very seriously.

[AlferdJasper]

From the Mullen handbook:

facilities include
… the Spirit Center – a cutting-edge classroom/physical fitness facility, the Hutchison Field House – a 1300-seat performance gymnasium/classroom complex, Brother Bernard Stadium – a 6,500 seat stadium with the all-weather Vince Greco Track, Bill Swift Baseball Field – a modern baseball park with grandstand seating, and Scavuzzo Softball Field, as well as an auxiliary gymnasium, soccer and lacrosse fields, tennis courts, and ample student and visitor parking. Practice fields and a park area complete the campus and provide a restful, rural atmosphere.

It's not as huge as Texas HS stadiums I've seen - that rival many colleges - but for a Denver high school, it's pretty large. Most of the larger stadiums in the area are "all-city stadiums" where an entire district uses one main stadium as the home field, but Mullen's is just for their sports, so it's pretty good size.

[Darian3Hagan]

Stocker Stadium the field of Champions! (8,000)

http://www.d2football.com/images/stadium/mesa_state_stadium_3.jpg

:smile2:

[sweaty teets]

Stocker Stadium the field of Champions! (8,000)

http://www.d2football.com/images/stadium/mesa_state_stadium_3.jpg

:smile2:

can't see ****, captain.

[sweaty teets]

well, now i can.

[White_Rabbit]

adam from rivals said that AAM's favorite changes every single week. i'm not saying he doesn't like washington and knebraska but i wouldn't take his comments very seriously.

Well that's a plus. Unfortunately I haven't seen him mention CU as one of those favorites..

[sweaty teets]

Well that's a plus. Unfortunately I haven't seen him mention CU as one of those favorites..

yup, our recruiting isn't going to magically turn around unless we win a bunch of games this year. really sucks because there is a ton of in state talent this year.

[Buffnik]

Well that's a plus. Unfortunately I haven't seen him mention CU as one of those favorites..

The Mullen guys are savvy enough to know that if you seem to be locking in on the in-state school early that out-of-state programs discount you. I'm not putting much stock in what those guys are saying at this point. They're all just collecting offers.

I actually think we are going to land Adonis.

[White_Rabbit]

Hmm, interesting. Hopefully you're right! :thumbsup:

[BuffLuKe]

6500 hundred is pretty good size for a high school. Texas is just a different story, Ratliff can seat 10 to 20 thousand. Midland Lee comes to town, closer to 20. Id like to check it out, sounds fun.

[Junction]

Stocker Stadium the field of Champions! (8,000)

http://www.d2football.com/images/stadium/mesa_state_stadium_3.jpg

:smile2:

:nod: :thumbsup: :lol:

[SuperiorBuff]

From the Mullen handbook:

facilities include

It's not as huge as Texas HS stadiums I've seen - that rival many colleges - but for a Denver high school, it's pretty large. Most of the larger stadiums in the area are "all-city stadiums" where an entire district uses one main stadium as the home field, but Mullen's is just for their sports, so it's pretty good size.
Vince Greco is a tool. Thant is all.

[Rraalph 3000]

Dude...come on...seriously???? First...Greco hasn't worked for the school in over 10 years, and 2nd he was a GREAT guy who did a LOT of good things both for the school and elsewhere around the community.

[SuperiorBuff]

Dude...come on...seriously???? First...Greco hasn't worked for the school in over 10 years, and 2nd he was a GREAT guy who did a LOT of good things both for the school and elsewhere around the community.
Seriously, I know Vince Greco. He is a tool.

[Buffnik]

Adonis attended Monday's practice along with Mullen teammates Leilon Willingham and Connor Healy. :thumbsup:

[buffaholic]

Also picked up a Northwestern offer to go with CSU and CU. Yet he lists Washington and Nebraska as his top choices, without offers.

This kid wants to leave the state bad from what I can see.

[TheEvilBeak]

Also picked up a Northwestern offer to go with CSU and CU. Yet he lists Washington and Nebraska as his top choices, without offers.

This kid wants to leave the state bad from what I can see.

I think if NU was going to offer, they would have by now. There is concern about his speed and his size. What if he out grows his position? Where do you play him?

[RoadrunnerBB]

Watch both Dorian Brown and Adonis play this year (Although Thompson Valley was brutal last year) and you will see who the best back and D1 propspect is.

I am not just saying this because Ameen Moore has favorites other than CU, but Brown is bigger and faster than AM. He runs just as hard but is more of a big play threat.

AM will have his choice of colleges and for good reason: he is Demetrius Sumler, but with more power......That said, I would be more upset if the Buffs miss out on Brown rather than AM.

[BuffInVA]

3* on Rivals #32 RB

[Buffnik]

It's looking highly unlikely that Adonis will be a Buff.

In the latest Scout update article (http://recruiting.scout.com/2/976220.html) (June 9th):

One school that he says he’s not considering highly is Colorado. “They don’t run the ball enough for me,” he said. “A Dan Hawkins offense is more about passing and I want to be in a situation where they run.”

[JimmyBuff]

It's looking highly unlikely that Adonis will be a Buff.

In the latest Scout update article (http://recruiting.scout.com/2/976220.html) (June 9th):

One school that he says he’s not considering highly is Colorado. “They don’t run the ball enough for me,” he said. “A Dan Hawkins offense is more about passing and I want to be in a situation where they run.”

Thanks Hawk.

[White_Rabbit]

So hiring Mike Leach won't help us here? :sad1:

[Buffnik]

14er -- without going into detail, AAM is still considering CU, the coaches are still recruiting him heavily, he's very open to leaving the state but not set on it, and he'll probably take a long time to commit.

Our biggest obstacle is that his#1 factor is PT as a true frosh. We can't offer that.

[Buffnik]

Sorry guys. I was talking about Adonis and the question was about the LW interview. Oops.

[Junction]

Buffnik is talking about Ameen-Moore, whom I give about a 5% chance of ending up in Boulder.

You're absolutely correct on Willingham. If he ends up in Boulder, he will play as a true freshman. 14er, LW did not have too much to say about his favorites, just that those teams were standing out. He will take visits and the process will drag out for a while.

I guess I'm even more confused about why we couldn't offer AAM immediate playing time.

[Duff Man]

I guess I'm even more confused about why we couldn't offer AAM immediate playing time.

Speedy and Lockridge will be seniors. Then we have this year's freshman class. Probably a couple of those guys (Tony Jones and Clark) will see time this year, maybe Trea Jones will even see time. The combo of a couple experienced seniors and a large freshman RB class is not a depth chart that looks favorable for a guy looking to play right away. JMO, although a coaching change makes things a lot different.

[exxon]

Speedy and Lockridge will be seniors. Then we have this year's freshman class. Probably a couple of those guys (Tony Jones and Clark) will see time this year, maybe Trea Jones will even see time. The combo of a couple experienced seniors and a large freshman RB class is not a depth chart that looks favorable for a guy looking to play right away. JMO, although a coaching change makes things a lot different.
Things seem really cloudy at the RB spot. I know Speedy is the man, no question there. I just don't know after that. I'm pretty excited to see Clark out there. Hopefully the coaching staff doesn't **** themselves with this one.

[Duff Man]

Things seem really cloudy at the RB spot. I know Speedy is the man, no question there. I just don't know after that. I'm pretty excited to see Clark out there. Hopefully the coaching staff doesn't **** themselves with this one.

I agree. To be honest, it gets really interesting after Speedy, not sure who else we have. Hopefully we get some freshmen to step up, we need them to in a big way. I like Tony Jones and Clark quite a bit, bu you never know. We seemed set for a while at RB just a couple seasons ago.

[BuffLuKe]

I like Clark too, he definitely has size that we dont currently have at the position. Watching his clips, he definitely finishes his runs and that was a pretty strange offense.

[sackman]

RB is one of those positions where you really need to have 3-4 guys that you can depend on. Injuries happen a lot to running backs. If AAM wants playing time, there's nothing that should keep that from happening here. He'll get his shot if he comes here.

[buffaholic]

The depth chart will look different soon enough. Of the 4 freshmen RB's, 1-2 will be on defense in a hurry. The others will be spread across 2 classes - with immediate playing time. My guess is two will be SOPHs and 1 will be a RS Freshman next year (or reverse that).

one interesting point will be where Quick Hildreth and Ford (walkons) end up at. I never saw a lot of difference between Ford and Adonis in the games I watched on TV.

[Buffnik]

Adonis was at the first practice under an open invitation to be an unofficial visitor when he can make it up to Boulder.

CU may have also benefited from CSU recruiting. The Rams have accepted verbals from 2 RBs already this cycle and that was the position on their roster that already had the most depth. Considering Adonis's desire to play early, I have trouble seeing him as the 3rd RB in a non-BCS recruiting class.

Other notable offers are from Kansas State, Syracuse, Northwestern and Utah. I think the Orange may be the #1 competitor here.

He's going to want to see the Buffs win this year. He's going to want to see us run the ball effectively. He's going to want to see 1 or 2 of our freshmen RBs move to defense. But I actually think we're in decent shape after being really discouraged. I think that Josh Ford leaving KSU for CU helped out quite a bit here.

[14er]

Hey nik, it seems D. Brown has passed aam in rankings. Which one, in your opinion, is the better back or fit for CU? Do you think we could land both?

Sent from my ADR6300

[Buffnik]

Hey nik, it seems D. Brown has passed aam in rankings. Which one, in your opinion, is the better back or fit for CU? Do you think we could land both?

Sent from my ADR6300

Everyone from fans to scouts over-hyped Adonis and now are going way too far the other way, imo. I've always been high on him and I believe he can come in and be a great running back for CU. He reminds me of LenDale White, but with a better work ethic. What I'd like to see from Adonis is for him to slim down to the 215-220 lb range and show off his feet/quickness as a senior.

Dorian Brown is built like a brick ****house and is very explosive. I'm high on him, but I actually see him as a linebacker. I believe he could be truly special as an ILB with Cabral coaching him.

I do believe we've got a chance at both. Gonna be hard and I know that RB is not a position of focus this recruiting cycle (WR and LB are top priorities). We'll take great players, though, and both Adonis and Dorian seem to be looked at that way by CU staffers.

[exxon]

Everyone from fans to scouts over-hyped Adonis and now are going way too far the other way, imo. I've always been high on him and I believe he can come in and be a great running back for CU. He reminds me of LenDale White, but with a better work ethic. What I'd like to see from Adonis is for him to slim down to the 215-220 lb range and show off his feet/quickness as a senior.
Guilty.

I agree with Nik. He's going to be good, just not the superstar that I was hyping way back when. :lol:

In the end I think that Adonis is heading out of state. Just a hunch.

[rodrigo]

Hey nik, it seems D. Brown has passed aam in rankings. Which one, in your opinion, is the better back or fit for CU? Do you think we could land both?


I'm also curious. Have you - or anyone else - seen them play (vs. watching highlight vids)? I've only seen the vids and to be honest it's pretty hard sometimes to separate the individual from the team around them.

[Buffnik]

I'm also curious. Have you - or anyone else - seen them play (vs. watching highlight vids)? I've only seen the vids and to be honest it's pretty hard sometimes to separate the individual from the team around them.

I've seen Adonis play. I've only seen Dorian on highlights.

I'll try to get out this year and watch them both. Nothing compares to being at a live game and seeing a guy up close to judge whether he's a star or not.

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Sidenote:

I want to beef up the AllBuffs coverage of Colorado high school preps. If anyone attends any high school football games this year, please post a game report in the Recruiting Forum. Be great to hear about teams and individual players (including underclassmen to keep an eye on).

[Duff Man]

Everyone from fans to scouts over-hyped Adonis and now are going way too far the other way, imo. I've always been high on him and I believe he can come in and be a great running back for CU. He reminds me of LenDale White, but with a better work ethic. What I'd like to see from Adonis is for him to slim down to the 215-220 lb range and show off his feet/quickness as a senior.

Dorian Brown is built like a brick ****house and is very explosive. I'm high on him, but I actually see him as a linebacker. I believe he could be truly special as an ILB with Cabral coaching him.

I do believe we've got a chance at both. Gonna be hard and I know that RB is not a position of focus this recruiting cycle (WR and LB are top priorities). We'll take great players, though, and both Adonis and Dorian seem to be looked at that way by CU staffers.

Saw Lendale White up close and personal several times during his last couple years at Chatfield. Shoddy work ethic and all, he was a much better prospect that AAM. JMO. I am not a hater, I just do not see quality college RB in AAM. I doubt it really matters in the end, I agree with valdez that he is headed out of state. Northwestern might actually be the leader.

As far as Dorian Brown, I think he is a dynamite prospect that could play either RB or LB and excel, but I agree LB might be the best position for him in the end. Getting him and Willingham for LB in this class would be great.

[BuffLuKe]

Running back or whatever he will be, I hope we get Dorian. Only seen clips of him but I definitely liked what I saw. Seen Adonis on tv several times and he would be a good get as well but imho Id rather have Dorian, even at the rb position. Perfect place for Adonis is Wisconsin, they run alot and have alot of bigger backs.

[exxon]

I'd like to see Hawkins focus on getting us some bigger backs. I like the kids we have now, but we need someone like Adonis to work in short yardage situations. I hope Cordary Allen can get some PT this year. We may need him.

[AlferdJasper]

This is not over. And Josh Ford is working on his Mullen guys, so ... well, I always bet the longshot. But it ain't over until it's over.

[buffaholic]

If you watched our offense in the spring, it's hard for me to visualize him in this offense. Just saying.

[buffaholic]

hmmm. I haven't seen Josh Ford on the roster or out there. anyone?

[Buffnik]

hmmm. I haven't seen Josh Ford on the roster or out there. anyone?

He's joining 1st day of classes when rosters expand.

[Buffnik]

If you watched our offense in the spring, it's hard for me to visualize him in this offense. Just saying.

I don't know that I agree. If you look at his offers, teams that run a lot more spread and read option type stuff (Northwestern & Utah) are some of our stiffest competition for Adonis. I think he would be very effective in that offense. Just because we're not utilizing a fullback doesn't mean we won't have downhill, power running. Look no further than what Joe Gibbs did with guys like John Riggins and Clinton Portis out of that offense.

[exxon]

If you watched our offense in the spring, it's hard for me to visualize him in this offense. Just saying.
Come on now. CU is in no position to be turning down kids like Adonis.

[Buffnik]

Rivals has a good update on Adonis: http://colorado.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1117311

He's favoring Kansas State and Syracuse right now due to playing time considerations. But CU and CSU are still in the mix. He'll be at the RMS. Which sideline he's on will tell us which of the in-state programs is in his Top 3.

[96 Buff]

Are grades an issue?

[Buffnik]

Are grades an issue?

There hasn't been any report of that, afaik.

[CarolinaBuff]

He's visiting Syracuse this weekend.

http://blog.syracuse.com/orangefootball/2010/10/football_recruits_to_watch_syr.html

[Duff Man]

He has already visited CSU and Syracuse. He will be visiting Utah on December 17th. They appear to be the three favorites right now.

[AlferdJasper]

Ah, but he hasn't met our new coaches. It's literally a new ballgame.

[Daaah]

Ah, but he hasn't met our new coaches. It's literally a new ballgame.

well not literally, right wally?

[AlferdJasper]

LOL. (Literally and Really.)

When Wally comes round, I have HUGE HUGE HUGE scoop for him regarding JS.

Gonna love it.

[Rraalph 3000]

Hoping EB comes in and takes a 2nd look with AAM....think he could turn into a beast with some good weight room assistance....He is an absolute bruiser that never gets knocked backwards and he can be awfully nimble on his feet as well

Had another terrific game in the State Championship yesterday and displayed a lot of good things...most definitely do not want to see him land at CSU if we don't give him a shot

[Darth Snow]

we may be needing a FB...

[The Guest]

LOL. (Literally and Really.)

When Wally comes round, I have HUGE HUGE HUGE scoop for him regarding JS.

Gonna love it.

Thanks for the scoop Alferd. I wasn't intentionally dismissive, but just a little wistful. But I did a backflip or two...literally...

[Duff Man]

JMO, but I do not think he is a take in a year with limited scholarships.

[exxon]

JMO, but I do not think he is a take in a year with limited scholarships.
:nod:

[AlferdJasper]

JMO, but I do not think he is a take in a year with limited scholarships.


:nod:


Does the "nod" mean you agree with Boulder Buff, or "nod" because YES HE IS a kid you would take regardless?


I'm thinking if he can be persuaded to be a buff, you HAVE to take him.

[Darth Snow]

Does the "nod" mean you agree with Boulder Buff, or "nod" because YES HE IS a kid you would take regardless?


I'm thinking if he can be persuaded to be a buff, you HAVE to take him.
Explain.

[exxon]

I'm thinking if he can be persuaded to be a buff, you HAVE to take him.
Really? Splain.

[AlferdJasper]

Really? Splain.


You first.

[exxon]

You first.
I agree with BB

I was drinking the Koolaid early on, but this kid has not proven himself as a "must have" here in Boulder.

[Duff Man]

I think his foot speed at the next level will be exposed. He dominated in high school in large part because he has been as big as many of the DL and LBs that he has faced. That will not be the case at the college level.

Especially if Farrow is kept on (which may or may not happen), I think a speed back needs to be targeted if you are going to sign 2 RBs.

[exxon]

I think this stance has been stated for a while now. His speed has always been suspect. That's why most big programs have stayed away from Adonis.

[exxon]

Especially if Farrow is kept on (which may or may not happen), I think a speed back needs to be targeted if you are going to sign 2 RBs.
I believe Farrow will stay on regardless of Hagan. I could be wrong, but its a little late in the game to jump back into recruiting.

[Duff Man]

I believe Farrow will stay on regardless of Hagan. I could be wrong, but its a little late in the game to jump back into recruiting.

Agree. I am not even sure if we need to sign two RBs anyway, but I would rather go after a speed back if we do. Signing Ameen-Moore does not really add much IMO.

[exxon]

If we were to go after anyone in-state, it would be Dorian Brown. Even with his injury. It's a risk, but one that has a higher upside than AAM offers you.

[Rraalph 3000]

Speed is nice, but we have a roster full of small speedy RB's...and none of them are really that fast (let's be honest, how often has speedy really outran anyone).....No way in heck that Justin Torres was/is any faster/slower than AAM, yet he was very effective coming in as a true freshman

I know we brought in a bunch of backs last year, and hopefully they are the answer, but we really need a guy to complement the plethora of small backs on the team

Having watched AAM for 4 years, maybe I've got the kool aid visors on....but I firmly believe with the right conditioning coach he could be a star

[dyemeduke]

sure, I'd take Dorian over AMM, but I'd still take AMM. He is a football player. We need a big back, and if things dont work out in the backfield, let him switch positions - I know he's short for the dline, but hey...wasn't Hypolite short in height (started as a FB too right?)?

I personally think it'd be foolish for the new coaching staff not try to sign AMM...guy can play

[exxon]

Like BB said before, with the limited amount of ships available, we should be looking at other positions. UNLESS, we can pull in a top flight RB. I just don't see AAM as being any better than Cordary Allen. Who knows though.

[exxon]

Speed is nice, but we have a roster full of small speedy RB's...and none of them are really that fast (let's be honest, how often has speedy really outran anyone).....No way in heck that Justin Torres was/is any faster/slower than AAM, yet he was very effective coming in as a true freshman

I know we brought in a bunch of backs last year, and hopefully they are the answer, but we really need a guy to complement the plethora of small backs on the team

Having watched AAM for 4 years, maybe I've got the kool aid visors on....but I firmly believe with the right conditioning coach he could be a star
You can't coach speed.

I'm not trying to say we shouldn't recruit AAM because he's not as fast as Speedy. I know these are two totally different backs. I know he's a bigger guy who tends to run through guys in HS. I just don't see him doing this in the PAC 12. He just lacks that second gear that would've probably made him a decent D1 recruit.

I also don't really see how Torres was that effective. He carried the ball 14 times for 60 yards. Most of those yards were vs CSU and Hawaii. 26 yards vs CSU and 32 yards vs Hawaii.

Not trying to slam either kid. JMHO.

[AlferdJasper]

I posted some highlight tape on another recruit's thread (http://www.allbuffs.com/showthread.php/51644-11-CO-DE-Tommy-Harris) that happens to have AMM in it.

See Post #11 in this thread (http://www.allbuffs.com/showthread.php/51644-11-CO-DE-Tommy-Harris?p=768133&viewfull=1#post768133). I think it makes your point, ValdezJ.

[exxon]

http://orangefizz.net/2010/12/elite-rb-recruit-happy-collier-left-drawn-to-su/


Elite RB Ameen-Moore to Fizz: “Happy” Collier Left, Drawn to SU

The Fizz spoke with ‘Cuse recruit Adonis Ameen-Moore from Mullen Prep in Denver today, who had nothing but things to say about Doug Marrone’s team.

[sackman]

Are we actually recruiting AAM?

[tante]

You can't coach speed.




I'm not so sure about this. My buddy played LB and went from a 4.9 out of high school to a 4.6 in college.

[exxon]

I'm not so sure about this. My buddy played LB and went from a 4.9 out of high school to a 4.6 in college.
:lol: I want his position coach on this staff right now! :lol:

[Dorn09]

You want his coach or his pharmacist on staff?

[cutaekwondo]

I don't know why it is said you can't coach speed. You can train and increase speed. Just like you can train to increase your verticle. Some just have a natural ability that may be greater than others but that does not mean everyone else is out of luck. Does that mean that you can take anybody and train them to acheive a 4.4 40 time...NO. But you can train to increase your speed. Don Beebe (former Buffalo Bills WR held camps for such a thing).

[1buffs88]

the only one of these that's true is that in basketball you can't coach height

[cutaekwondo]

the only one of these that's true is that in basketball you can't coach height

agreed. lol. I know first hand on that one.

[Buffnik]

Adonis committed to Syracuse, according to ESPN.

[Highlander27]

Good for him. Good luck Ameen-Moore.

[dio]

Glad he found a home... also glad he found a home where he won't be playing the Buffs

[buffaholic]

Less concerned with losing his talent than the way it looks. To outsiders, it looks like we aren't keeping our in-state offers, although I highly doubt that AAM still had a commitable CU offer after the coaching change.

JE and staff need some good news soon.

[nycskibum]

Four or Five years in upstate new york? Good luck with that.

[BuffsNYC]

Four or Five years in upstate new york? Good luck with that.
:stupid:

There's a reason Cornell has such a high suicide rate.

[BinaryBuff]

Glad he found a home... also glad he found a home where he won't be playing the Buffs

Exactly. I did not want him heading to CSU or Utah where we might have to face him for the next 4-5 years

[DallasBuff]

:stupid:

There's a reason Cornell has such a high suicide rate.

And Cornell is the garden spot. Ever been to Syracuse or Rochester? God is pissed at the people who live there.....

[CarolinaBuff]

What, are you guys afraid of a little snow? OK, alot of snow. :lol:

Syracuse already has a player from Mullen on their roster, Jonny Miller. He'll have a chance to play right away because SU's top rusher graduates and another 4-star RB on their roster (Averin Collier) just got dismissed from the team for academic reasons.

[sackman]

Honestly, were we even recruiting AAM? I can't for the life of me believe we lost a recruit to Syracuse. A local kid to boot. Inconceivable. The timing of this leads me to believe that JE and/or EB told the kid that we were going in another direction. I simply cannot bring myself to believe that anybody, especially a kid from Colorado, would choose Syracuse over CU.

[cnbuff410]

Honestly, were we even recruiting AAM? I can't for the life of me believe we lost a recruit to Syracuse. A local kid to boot. Inconceivable. The timing of this leads me to believe that JE and/or EB told the kid that we were going in another direction. I simply cannot bring myself to believe that anybody, especially a kid from Colorado, would choose Syracuse over CU.

I think it's just we don't need him/buy his "potential"/put any word you like here

[Duff Man]

Honestly, were we even recruiting AAM? I can't for the life of me believe we lost a recruit to Syracuse. A local kid to boot. Inconceivable. The timing of this leads me to believe that JE and/or EB told the kid that we were going in another direction. I simply cannot bring myself to believe that anybody, especially a kid from Colorado, would choose Syracuse over CU.

Mutual disinterest. No big loss.