Buff Legacies Playing Elsewhere

[Buffnik]

This is something that really bothers me with Hawkins. I can see missing on some of the legacy players, but when you miss on all of them it's got to be intentional. I just don't know whether it's intentional by Juicebox as part of his culture change or intentional by the ex-Buffs because they don't want their sons playing for Hawkins.

Sal Aunese / Bill McCartney - Chase McCartney (LSU)
John Embree - Taylor Embree (UCLA)
Darian Hagan - Darian Hagan Jr. (Cal)
Kanavis McGhee - Dayvon McGhee (Kansas State) & Kendall McGhee (Minnesota)

Any others that I missed?

[BeachBronco]

It doesn't bother me, Peyton went to Tennesee........

[jjbuffs13]

This is something that really bothers me with Hawkins. I can see missing on some of the legacy players, but when you miss on all of them it's got to be intentional. I just don't know whether it's intentional by Juicebox as part of his culture change or intentional by the ex-Buffs because they don't want their sons playing for Hawkins.

Sal Aunese / Bill McCartney - Chase McCartney (LSU)
John Embree - Taylor Embree (UCLA)
Darian Hagan - Darian Hagan Jr. (Cal)
Kanavis McGhee - Dayvon McGhee (Kansas State) & Kendall McGhee (Minnesota)

Any others that I missed?

As far as I know McCartney went to LSU just because of Les Miles, and would have gone anywhere that Les was. I also dont believe that Hagan has a fantastic relationship with his son, and if thats the case, his son isnt giong to want to spend 4 years on the football field with his dad.

[AlferdJasper]

Cherry Creek's DeVaughn Levy (http://rivals.yahoo.com/wisconsin/football/recruiting/player-DeVaughn-Levy-83761), (whose father is CU running backs coach Darian Hagan and is half brother to Darian, Jr), said earlier he wants to go to Cal-Berkeley with his bro, but they haven't shown much interest yet.

DeVaughn attended the Buff's 4-day camp back in June and said this:


"Yeah, that was the first time my dad really got a chance to coach me at a high level," he said. "Just being around my dad was a fun experience. He is a good coach and it was fun to see him in a different environment other than being just a great father."

[Buff21]

As far as I know McCartney went to LSU just because of Les Miles, and would have gone anywhere that Les was. I also dont believe that Hagan has a fantastic relationship with his son, and if thats the case, his son isnt giong to want to spend 4 years on the football field with his dad.

He's at LSU because Barnett got fired and LSU under Les Miles was the next most comfortable option.


His dream was to play at CU, where Barnett was the head coach and was planning to bring T.C. in. But Barnett was let go after the '05 season, and T.C. spent much of his senior year of 2006 in limbo. CU's new coach, Dan Hawkins, had brought in his own son, Cody, to play quarterback, so T.C. needed to look somewhere else.
"That really bothered me," Barnett says. "If I would've stayed, then T.C. would've come to Colorado. That broke my heart as much as anything. He needed to go play where his dad played. And it couldn't happen."


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=090925/aunese

[jjbuffs13]

He's at LSU because Barnett got fired and LSU under Les Miles was the next most comfortable option.



http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=090925/aunese

My mistake, thank you for the correction.

[dyemeduke]

This is something that really bothers me with Hawkins. I can see missing on some of the legacy players, but when you miss on all of them it's got to be intentional. I just don't know whether it's intentional by Juicebox as part of his culture change or intentional by the ex-Buffs because they don't want their sons playing for Hawkins.

Sal Aunese / Bill McCartney - Chase McCartney (LSU)
John Embree - Taylor Embree (UCLA)
Darian Hagan - Darian Hagan Jr. (Cal)
Kanavis McGhee - Dayvon McGhee (Kansas State) & Kendall McGhee (Minnesota)

Any others that I missed?

...Sal's kid was decent in HS, but he will never see the field. I don't even think he's on scholarship there. As others pointed out, Les and Bill had a good relationship, hence why he went there.

Darian Jr. heavily considered us, and his dad tried hard. I think we did a decent job at recruiting him, but it just didn't work out. If I remember correctly, Dayvon wasn't that great of a prospect either, and Kendall was supposedly more of a work in progress too.

Out of this list, Hagan Jr. is the only kid that really warranted heavy recruitment (I don't remember Embree's kid). If you're saying that we should be more lenient with offers to legacy kids, I completely disagree. If they're talented enough (like Hagan's kid), yes go after them hard. However, landing legacy kids should not be a priority over getting the best talent in here.

[Buffnik]

If you're saying that we should be more lenient with offers to legacy kids, I completely disagree. If they're talented enough (like Hagan's kid), yes go after them hard. However, landing legacy kids should not be a priority over getting the best talent in here.

The thing is, I'm not talking about guys who are on the roster at mid-level Sunbelt schools. Every single one of them is at a BCS program that has been better than CU over the past 4 years. Besides, we have under-recruited during those years and have been significantly under the scholarship limit. And it's not like we haven't been taking "Plan C" type guys as part of every class under Hawkins. The arguments just don't wash. There's a definite disconnect between the Hawkins era and those with ties to pre-Hawkins CU.

[White_Rabbit]

We certainly could use Embree this year.

[2HellNback]

Former Buffs don't like Hawkins.

[Timbuff10]

current buffs don't like hawkins.

fify

[lvbuff]

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/animalhouse6.jpg


Sometimes you get this with a legacy :lol:

[dyemeduke]

Former Buffs don't like Hawkins.

unfortunately...this is true. Our team is just not playing well enough to earn their respect.

However, most of my friends that played for CU were Barnett guys, and they have to be at least a little biased toward Hawk. Even still, I wouldn't blame Hawk for this particular item. As stated, TC was not really a DI recruit, Embree went where his dad is, Hagan was on the fence with us for a bit, and there are others that just didn't pan out (they weren't talented enough - ala Rouslon - or they weren't interested - ala Fauria).

Hawk has tried though to get in touch with alumni and history. He has made a real connection with McCartney through his efforts, but his on-field performance has really hindered his relationship with former players.

[Unleash Hell]

Nebraska has a big tradition of continuing legacies.

[PhillyBuff]

Nebraska has a big tradition of continuing legacies.


Looks like the fathers were much better players..:smile2:

[sackman]

Jesse White was a kid that GB simply wouldn't go after. I don't even know if he was offered. Jaslee Rouson had an offer, had accepted it, and then GB was fired and Hawk yanked the offer. Matt Hasselbeck was screwed over by Skippy Neuhisel. Rumor at the time was that he wanted to come here.

[HotRack]

However, most of my friends that played for CU were Barnett guys, and they have to be at least a little biased toward Hawk. Even still, I wouldn't blame Hawk for this particular item. As stated, TC was not really a DI recruit, Embree went where his dad is, Hagan was on the fence with us for a bit, and there are others that just didn't pan out (they weren't talented enough - ala Rouslon - or they weren't interested - ala Fauria).


Cody's not a D1 QB either, yet here we are. I would have been much happier watching a non-D1 QB with Buff pedigree like TC rather than the nepotism we're putting up right now.

Going Deep...

[GoBuffs08]

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/animalhouse6.jpg


Sometimes you get this with a legacy :lol:

I bet he could walk on and return punts.

[sliderNcider]

We offered both of the McGhee's... they decided to go elsewhere.