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Buffnik
05-20-2011, 12:37 PM
Rivals (http://rivals.yahoo.com/colorado/football/recruiting/player-Visesio-Salt-126176)
Scout (http://colorado.scout.com/a.z?s=148&p=8&c=1&nid=5572167)
ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/recruiting/player/_/id/141179/visesio-salt)
247 Sports (http://247sports.com/Player/Junior-Salt-16636?pi=27484)

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/r/7d/7de30115ecb8f22479cfc5e50b0fa390/250836.jpg
Mt. San Antionio C.C. (Walnut, CA)

December graduate

Ht: 6-foot-3
Wt: 340 lbs
40:

Rivals rating: 4*-5.8rr; unranked DT
Scout rating: 3*; unranked OG
ESPN rating: unranked DT
247s rating: 3*-85 rating; #73 JUCO

Reported Offers: Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State, California, Florida, Iowa State, Kansas State, Oregon State, Utah, San Diego State, Utah State

Buffnik
05-20-2011, 12:43 PM
http://colorado.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1223807

Originally from Sandy, Utah, the mammoth lineman committed to UNLV out of high school in 2006, decided to go on a Mormon mission, changed his mind and wanted to go to Utah but couldn't get a qualifying test score. He was a JUCO all-american for Mt. SAC last year as an OL, but he prefers defense and will play there this year (they had a logjam at the position in 2010).

He'd have 2 years to play and be available for spring ball. Signing Salt would go a long way toward replacing Cunningham and Obi while also improving the class balance on the DL a bit.

leftybuff
05-20-2011, 12:49 PM
Could he be as big of a get as Julius Peppers was? Wait, is that an island I see in the distance?

Burrito Palazzo
05-20-2011, 01:01 PM
I love that guy! Hope Tui gets him.

leftybuff
05-20-2011, 01:03 PM
I love that guy! Hope Tui gets him.

Tui knows how to spice up the DL....

sliderNcider
05-20-2011, 03:11 PM
It seems we don't have many DL offers out there

o_robbie
09-15-2011, 12:28 PM
Not sure how to make a recruit thread about his guy but it looks like on Scout that CU is in on him. I think he would be another guy we could look at to add more experienced depth to the OL for next year.

Scout link:
http://colorado.scout.com/a.z?s=148&p=8&c=1&nid=5572167

Quattro
09-15-2011, 12:31 PM
Holy **** that's a big man.

buff190
09-15-2011, 12:32 PM
All I know is we need BIG, MEAN, NASTY O-LINEMAN with an ATTITUDE!!! I can't stand that we can't run the ball for one F***ing yard when we need to!!!

JRK1212
09-15-2011, 12:36 PM
Search function.

http://www.allbuffs.com/showthread.php/61558-12-JC-DT-Visesio-Salt

fervorfactor
09-15-2011, 12:51 PM
Wonder how big Senior Salt must be!

The Guest
09-15-2011, 12:53 PM
I love that his eyes burn red. I consider it an important characteristic in a defensive lineman.

Darth Snow
09-15-2011, 01:12 PM
I love that his eyes burn red. I consider it an important characteristic in a defensive lineman. What about offensive linemen :facepalm:

The Guest
09-15-2011, 01:22 PM
What about offensive linemen :facepalm:

Ummm, red eyes are nice there too??

MtnBuff
09-15-2011, 06:10 PM
I would be concerned about his admission status. CU admissions has been notoriously bad about getting JC guys transfered in and if he is a Dec. Juco grad the turnaround time to get him in for spring is very short. We also run into the issue of qualifying him with his transfer credits since admissions seems to have a thing about not taking big blocks of credit from JCs

It would be great to have him in since it would take care of some depth issues in the D-line while balancing classes some. Also with him being a bit older guy (did a mormon mission) you would assume he has a higher level of maturity and could be a good influence as a team leader.

I don't know of any teams that have suffered from an excess of talent big men in the middle of their lines so if the coaches think he can play I would welcome him, just concerned about getting him past admissions.

JimmyBuff
09-15-2011, 09:43 PM
We've gotten JC"s in the program before Mtn.

BehindEnemyLines
09-15-2011, 10:18 PM
I dunno, I've kinda soured on the jc route. Seems like 1/2 of the jc's that commit to the Buffs never get admitted. It seems like time not well spent.

Nothing against this young man. By all means, if he has a good academic record and all the requisite courses (no p.e., etc), and he wants to come to Boulder.... Well, we'll see. I'm just not gonna get my hopes up.

White_Rabbit
09-15-2011, 10:32 PM
Even when they do get admitted, it's like they have to jump through 1,000 hoops to do so. Simmons and Mohler both had to take like absurd extra units to get in didn't they? It's probably just not worth it unless we get in on someone really early and babysit their classes and stuff. Have to make sure they aren't counting PE units or Ds or anything like that.

Junction
09-15-2011, 10:34 PM
Has anybody called Mt. San Antonio CC to see if he'll be able to get in?

White_Rabbit
09-15-2011, 10:36 PM
Has anybody called Mt. San Antonio CC to see if he'll be able to get in?

It's not too far from me, I'll drop by tomorrow morning and every subsequent morning after that to see what's up.

MtnBuff
09-15-2011, 11:03 PM
Even when they do get admitted, it's like they have to jump through 1,000 hoops to do so. Simmons and Mohler both had to take like absurd extra units to get in didn't they? It's probably just not worth it unless we get in on someone really early and babysit their classes and stuff. Have to make sure they aren't counting PE units or Ds or anything like that.

^^This^^ It seems like even when we have a kid with everything in order getting him in becomes a major problem. With a guy who is planning to graduate in fall and enter for spring semester I question the ability to get him in that quickly.

tante
09-15-2011, 11:08 PM
is pt gates elgible yet

Buffnik
09-15-2011, 11:38 PM
Has anybody called Mt. San Antonio CC to see if he'll be able to get in?

I'm on hold with Independence CC. That's where I get all my info.

o_robbie
09-16-2011, 06:58 AM
I was hoping he would be interested in playing OG for us but DT sounds good too.

DBT
09-16-2011, 09:26 AM
Even when they do get admitted, it's like they have to jump through 1,000 hoops to do so. Simmons and Mohler both had to take like absurd extra units to get in didn't they? It's probably just not worth it unless we get in on someone really early and babysit their classes and stuff. Have to make sure they aren't counting PE units or Ds or anything like that.We just need to send out more death threats.






























J/K folks, J/K!

zbuff
09-16-2011, 09:33 AM
We just need to send out more death threats.

I favor threatening to force them to read all 27,077 of your posts.

SuperiorBuff
09-16-2011, 09:33 AM
I believe there is a big difference in admitting a JC transfer vs a JC graduate.

zbuff
09-16-2011, 09:37 AM
As long as his classes meet CU guidelines...

SuperiorBuff
09-16-2011, 09:38 AM
As long as his classes meet CU guidelines...I don't think that matters if he graduates.

Buffnik
09-16-2011, 10:21 AM
I don't think that matters if he graduates.

Not for admissions. Where it matters is whether he has enough coursework that can be used to fulfill the eligibility requirements of being on a path to finish a major within 5 years.

zbuff
09-16-2011, 12:50 PM
Not for admissions. Where it matters is whether he has enough coursework that can be used to fulfill the eligibility requirements of being on a path to finish a major within 5 years.

I thought Shaun Mohler (sp?) had to work his butt off not just to graduate but to add classes because some course work that qualifies for JC graduation doesn't transfer. Is that what you meant? And doesn't that then affect admissions?

Buffnik
09-16-2011, 01:45 PM
I thought Shaun Mohler (sp?) had to work his butt off not just to graduate but to add classes because some course work that qualifies for JC graduation doesn't transfer. Is that what you meant? And doesn't that then affect admissions?

We have some others who could answer that better.

The things I do know for certain are:

1) A JC degree eliminates any qualifying concerns from the NCAA Clearinghouse.
2) A JC degree may include coursework that would not transfer into CU (D grades, PE courses, General Studies courses, etc.).
3) The NCAA requires that all athletes must be making stipulated progress toward a degree in order to be eligible to play (including selection of a major after the 2nd year).

Given that it's a 3rd year student, he needs to be accepted into a CU degree program and I think the issue is that some don't have the credits to meet minimum requirements.

Duff Man
09-16-2011, 02:41 PM
Any JUCO we take this class is worth the risk.

sliderNcider
09-16-2011, 02:55 PM
Any JUCO we take this class is worth the risk.

This. Especially on the DL

buffaholic
09-17-2011, 08:09 AM
We have some others who could answer that better.

The things I do know for certain are:

1) A JC degree eliminates any qualifying concerns from the NCAA Clearinghouse.
2) A JC degree may include coursework that would not transfer into CU (D grades, PE courses, General Studies courses, etc.).
3) The NCAA requires that all athletes must be making stipulated progress toward a degree in order to be eligible to play (including selection of a major after the 2nd year).

Given that it's a 3rd year student, he needs to be accepted into a CU degree program and I think the issue is that some don't have the credits to meet minimum requirements.

I've got some insight here due two friends who are working for CU in volunteer positions helping with paperwork.

The whole idea that CU can't admit JC kids and shouldn't waste their time is really OLD news.

CU has some special requirements that other schools generally don't have, but if the AD understands these, and works with admissions, there is no MYSTERY.

During Tharp's years (the scandal) the AD and Admissions were not working together.  Hawk learned this the hard way (with a certain RB). Bohn got it fixed.

The last several years, Admissions has been able to work with the AD early and often to identify what the kid will need to get into school and make it happen. It's been 100% I believe. We got Simmons in when no one thought he could get in.

As outlined earlier, JC kids are typically focused on becoming NCAA eligible, which is covered by Buffnik's summary above. They need to graduate and be on track for a degree in 5 years. That gets you into KSU and most places. CU doesn't have a PE major, nor some other flaky majors, and has some other minimum academic requirements. A lot of schools also have these, CU isn't alone.

It's just a matter of having the admin staff get on it early, check it out for Embree by working with admissions and there should be no mystery.

This formula has worked great the last 4 years and we've gone 100% I think on the JC kids.

The idea we can't get JC guys in is old news. Old like, CU has a girl kicker old. CU has to be more selective than KSU but we are not alone here. Embree must identify a group of players that he wants and then the Admin staff starts the process of screening their situation and ultimately working with Admissions.

If a kid is hearing a lot from CU, he's probably well into the process of having everything checked out and CU is pretty confident he can get in. If the kid is scheduling a trip to CU, this is not an issue. He's been screened and he can get in with high confidence.

Buffnik
09-17-2011, 08:18 AM
Thanks, buffaholic.

GoBuffs08
09-17-2011, 09:37 AM
And if some Allbuff members need to call the school to get things straightened out they will.

BehindEnemyLines
09-17-2011, 10:44 AM
'holic may be on to something. Just for a historical perspective, here's who Rivals and Scout list as JC commits to the Buffs since 2002 (s - Scout, r - Rivals):

2002
Clint Werth (s,r)
Gabe Nyenhuis (r)

2003
McKenzie Tilmon (s,r) *
John Guydon (s,r)

2004
Abraham Wright (s,r)

2005
Terry Washington (s,r) *
Chris Todd (s,r) *
Bryce MacMartin (s,r)
Alvin Barnett (s,r)

2006
Thomas Perez (s,r) *
Erick Faatagi (s)

2007
Chris Perri (s,r)
Nick Nelson (s,r)
Drew Hudgins (s,r)
P.T. Gates (s,r) *

2008
Shaun Mohler (s,r)

2009
Andre Simmons (s,r)

2010
Eric Richter (s,r)
Evan Harrington (s,r)

2011
Brent Burnette (s,r)

2008 -2011 were all hits. Past history shows about half the jc's getting into CU.

zbuff
09-17-2011, 11:31 AM
Thanks to for the clarifications,nik and holic, and to rdb for the research.

BuffTuba
09-18-2011, 10:33 PM
Seems like a good portion of CU JC recruits before 2007 from were either: buried on the depth chart, didn't play, kicked off the team or became ineligible.

Not sure what I'm getting at; just thought it was an interesting trend.

Creebuzz
09-18-2011, 10:55 PM
Gabe Nyenhuis and Abe Wright were very solid players for the buffs before 07. Guydon and Tilmon contributed. Werth would've been good but he never recovered from a bad shoulder injury (iirc). Hawkins whiffed on his juco, especially in 2007.

azbuff
09-19-2011, 01:42 AM
Gabe Nyenhuis and Abe Wright were very solid players for the buffs before 07. Guydon and Tilmon contributed. Werth would've been good but he never recovered from a bad shoulder injury (iirc). Hawkins whiffed on his juco, especially in 2007.

Agreed. Gabe and Abe were solid.

BehindEnemyLines
09-19-2011, 07:57 AM
I missed a note on my post about the jc's -- the * indicates the ones that never made it into CU. Sorry.

It does appear that we're doing better getting jc players into CU. I have to imagine that there is a combination of factors that lead to this later (and better) trend. As some of you pointed out, some of the jc's come in and produce while others just seems to disappear.

Quattro
11-16-2011, 07:58 PM
Visiting Miami but does not hold an Miami offer and says he's looking for good academics and a program that can take him to the next level.

Rivals (http://colorado.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1283236)

sliderNcider
11-16-2011, 08:01 PM
This is weird but I had a dream I was on the same plane as him flying to Colorado.

Buffnik
11-16-2011, 08:12 PM
This is weird but I had a dream I was on the same plane as him flying to Colorado.

I hope you weren't in a middle seat between him and Pennel. :smile2:

absinthe
11-16-2011, 08:18 PM
I hope you weren't in a middle seat between him and Pennel. :smile2:

Pennel as well? that would just be pouring salt in the wound.

Darth Snow
11-16-2011, 08:30 PM
Pennel as well? that would just be pouring salt in the wound. more like a dash of paprika.

Quattro
11-16-2011, 08:31 PM
Salt is going to a salting other teams up the middle.

BuffLuKe
11-17-2011, 05:06 PM
I hope you weren't in a middle seat between him and Pennel. :smile2:Umm huh? Pennel visited?

sweaty teets
12-18-2011, 12:22 PM
chomp chomp

Buffnik
12-18-2011, 01:04 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/12/18/2615018/visesio-junior-salt-commits-Florida-Gators

buffaholic
12-18-2011, 04:34 PM
did that article actually quote Allbuffs? Or is that Buffnik pulling some intraweb magic?

Burrito Palazzo
12-18-2011, 07:02 PM
did that article actually quote Allbuffs? Or is that Buffnik pulling some intraweb magic?Yes. UF seems to be stuggling, what do they look like next year?

lawdogg
01-09-2012, 06:25 PM
Flipped to Utah per ESPN.

Burrito Palazzo
01-09-2012, 06:26 PM
That's a big flip. Florida must be livid.

lawdogg
01-09-2012, 06:27 PM
That's a big flip. Florida must be livid.

Yep, they're pretty salty about it.

SuperD
01-09-2012, 07:11 PM
Utah continues to prove they are the KjSU of the Pac 12 when it comes to Jucos.