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Pac 12 Network's Future With DirecTV and Dish Network

DirecTV is playing a very risky game. I honestly don't care about seeing any of the other regional networks, but they damn well better carry the CU/UU region here.
 
DirecTV is playing a very risky game. I honestly don't care about seeing any of the other regional networks, but they damn well better carry the CU/UU region here.

I'd be happy with the National & our regional feed.
 
I'm sure it could be worked out to carry the national network and give the subscriber the choice of which regional network he/she wanted. That can't be that difficult.
 
If I can't get the Colorado regional DTV can go **** themselves and I'll switch my **** to Comcast. Having 100% Buffs is more important to me than Sunday Ticket.
 
I'm sure it could be worked out to carry the national network and give the subscriber the choice of which regional network he/she wanted. That can't be that difficult.

For local channels or anything they don't offer as part of a national package, they generally use "spot beam" satellites so that they can basically beam different providers to different areas on the same channel number. My guess is that is what they would do with the Pac-12 networks if they aren't going to make the regionals available nationally in any package. If they do, it really would be that difficult to offer somebody in, say, California the CU/UU channel...
 
I am hypothetically stuck with DTV since I just signed with them in Dec and did a two year contract. Need to see what it will cost to break the contract.
 
I am hypothetically stuck with DTV since I just signed with them in Dec and did a two year contract. Need to see what it will cost to break the contract.
I have had Dish for going on 9 years now. No real problems other than they won't upgrade equipment without a new contract..so much for customer loyalty. I have held off on a new contract or switching providers until the P12 thing shakes out. If I can't get P12 on Dish...see ya. If DTV won't get regional P12, see ya. Why is that so hard for the satellite monkeys to understand?
 
I have had Dish for going on 9 years now. No real problems other than they won't upgrade equipment without a new contract..so much for customer loyalty. I have held off on a new contract or switching providers until the P12 thing shakes out. If I can't get P12 on Dish...see ya. If DTV won't get regional P12, see ya. Why is that so hard for the satellite monkeys to understand?

Freaking agree. These satelite asshats need to cut the duschebaggery and understand the customer base. I will hate to go to comcast, but will do it to get the P12 network channels.
 
directv also has the nfl package.

i'm going to be in a world of hurt if they don't pickup the p12 network. i'll probably end up dialing directv down to the cheapest package and keeping them for the nfl and then adding comcast just to get the p12 network. i would refer to this as an exceptionally below average result that will cause much teeth gnashing and angry inquiries to directv. i've been with them for 15+ years--- i love directv-- they are so much better than comcast. so much. in every possible way. so, i hope they don't **** this up.
 
directv also has the nfl package.

i'm going to be in a world of hurt if they don't pickup the p12 network. i'll probably end up dialing directv down to the cheapest package and keeping them for the nfl and then adding comcast just to get the p12 network. i would refer to this as an exceptionally below average result that will cause much teeth gnashing and angry inquiries to directv. i've been with them for 15+ years--- i love directv-- they are so much better than comcast. so much. in every possible way. so, i hope they don't **** this up.

Totally dont disagree.
 
They'll get it done. Unlike the Longhorn Network, there's way too much money at stake for all parties for them to not get this resolved.
 
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but that pacific takes article made a point of saying that all football games covered by the PAC 12 network will be on the national feed, that means if the regional network doesn't get done on directv right away, that takes some of the bite away, at least until basketball season gets going. In other words, if this article is right, then we won't miss buff football because of a pac 12 regional feed not being available on directv.
 
I thought that I remembered reading somewhere, a long time ago when the network was just really getting stood up, that Larry Scott made a comment along the lines of "all football and men's basketball will be broadcast nationally." I interpreted that to mean that after the 1st and 2nd tier games are chosen by ESPN & Fox, that the rest of the games schedules will be juggled so that they all end up on the national channel, i.e. not the regional channels.

Ok, presuming that is true, I will live out the remainder of my contract with DirecTV (one more year) if they only get the national channel. If they don't get the national channel period, I am taking the cheaper of two options: paying the cancellation fee, or pulling my subscription down to the absolute minimum for the rest of the contract. And then I will sign up for Cox.

Here is the question I have though, and I don't think I've ever really seen it answered: will the cable carriers outside of the local markets carry the P12 Regional Channels? Or will they just have the national channel? Or, will they have the national channel on the basic package, and then all of the regionals on their sports tier? (I'm guessing it's going to be the last option - but I don't think I've ever seen that officially). I also presume that that last option is how, say, a Duck fan in Denver would get the Oregon regional (the local cable in Denver has the national and the CU regional network on the basic tier, and then the rest of the regional channels on a sports tier).

Of course, the answer to that question above will determine my strategy not for this coming year, but for next year when I'm no longer bound by contract. If DirecTV is still, one year from now, only carrying the national channel, and Cox is carrying all of the regional channels, then DirecTV will be losing themselves a customer.
 
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but that pacific takes article made a point of saying that all football games covered by the PAC 12 network will be on the national feed, that means if the regional network doesn't get done on directv right away, that takes some of the bite away, at least until basketball season gets going. In other words, if this article is right, then we won't miss buff football because of a pac 12 regional feed not being available on directv.

This is key. As long as the national Pac 12 network is on DTV I will be happy.
 
It is going to be very important in my house to get the regionals. Football being on the "national feed" is all well and good, but for basketball we will obviously need regionals. I guess I don't see why it would be so hard to offer Pac 12 regionals in the same way they offer fox sports regionals on DTV. Get them all for $12 a month. We will pay for them no problem.

Interestingly, we had a Comcast guy apparently going door to door ring our doorbell the other night. DD told him we weren't doing anything until the Pac 12 network was figured out. Guy had no response.
 
Whats the f&^%$ difference between putting 7 channels on vs 1, I bought the POS dish sports package only to see 20 channels of Navy vs Rutgers. Seriously how much does it cost to show all the games that are being broadcast in the first place? it looks more and more like my tv will just get thrown away and Ill have to actually go to the games
 
In my opinion, this is all just posturing by DirecTV. As I recall, they did the same thing with The Mountain. And the PAC12 Network will be much more of a money maker than that channel. DirecTV will fight to the bitter end to get the best deal they can get. In other words, they want the most money per household or telecast that they can get and the network wants the opposite. In west Arvada I have no other option. We have US Cable here. Last time I looked, 10 years ago, they sucked.
 
I am hypothetically stuck with DTV since I just signed with them in Dec and did a two year contract. Need to see what it will cost to break the contract.

Washington State Coug fan here, moved to Fort Collins last August and will be in the same boat with the Pac-12 contract and Directv. One thing you can do, which I discussed with my wife this morning is to put a hold on your Directv account for the football season and get Comcast until the season is over. Right now, We are using Comcast for internet and went to the local office and they gave us a really good price. You could essentially get a new customer deal that saves money for the season and put Directv on hold for 0-6 months at a time, twice a year.
 
Washington State Coug fan here, moved to Fort Collins last August and will be in the same boat with the Pac-12 contract and Directv. One thing you can do, which I discussed with my wife this morning is to put a hold on your Directv account for the football season and get Comcast until the season is over. Right now, We are using Comcast for internet and went to the local office and they gave us a really good price. You could essentially get a new customer deal that saves money for the season and put Directv on hold for 0-6 months at a time, twice a year.
solid first post. Thanks for the info.
 
if you have a ps3, you can also get Sunday Ticket without a subscription to Directv
 
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Whats the f&^%$ difference between putting 7 channels on vs 1, I bought the POS dish sports package only to see 20 channels of Navy vs Rutgers. Seriously how much does it cost to show all the games that are being broadcast in the first place? it looks more and more like my tv will just get thrown away and Ill have to actually go to the games

Agree with you on this.

They have the bandwith available often filled with dead air now. They can make it happen if they want to.
 
bump with big update from Mike Reynolds of Multichannel news (a blog).

http://mobile.multichannel.com/article/485701-Pac_12_Puts_Cable_Game_Plan_in_Motion.php

Beyond the conference territory, the Pac-12 will be looking for carriage for all seven services, perhaps on sports tiers. Sources familiar with the talks indicate that Pac-12 Networks is seeking a monthly license fee of between 90 cents and $1 within conference markets, and as much as 50 cents in other areas. Stevenson declined to discuss rate-card specifics.

good news for those out of footprint buffs!

In Demand president Bob Benya said Pac-12 Networks, working with online video management firm Ooyala, would be “all in” from the outset on computers, tablets, connected TVs and smartphones, whether on Apple or Android-based operating systems. Subscribers to Pac-12 Networks will be able to watch live content on connected devices via TV Everywhere authentication when the services begin on Aug. 15.

Viewers can customize apps to create a personalized content experience specific to their favorite Pac-12 teams, sports and related content — including statistics, press conferences and documentaries — that extends beyond the telecasts.

As for video-on-demand, Benya said he expects the product to be “one package, mostly the best of the national feed. We’ll do the encoding and the 20 hours of free-ondemand will be refreshed every month,” he said.

Ummm, that is just ****ing cool. all of it. Love the free on-demand stuff.

In addition to VOD and TV Everywhere, In Demand and the CMC, a subsidiary of Comcast Cable, will provide network- distribution services. The infrastructure of their linear networks will be grounded through fiber connectivity between the Pac-12 studio in San Francisco, which will be completed on July 9, plus all 12 of its member universities and the CMC in Denver.

“This fiber connectivity between the 12 schools, the state-of-the-art Pac-12 studio in San Francisco and the CMC is a technical structure that I believe is unique to the industry,” Benya said.
Interesting. We are literally building our very own hardline network between all the schools (I'm guessing here) TV studio's and the P12 Network headquarters. Which means the P12N will be completely independent of all carriers. Sounds like one of those "expensive now, cheap later" investments.
 
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