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Now why couldn't CU do this...
 
More so the letter. It's nice to see a school take responsibility for a downtrodden football program.
 
Stupid letter in my opinion. That's a lot of big talk for a program that sucks (in a relative sense). He's talking about expecting unqualified excellence in football, but they are not even close and prob will never be, or should be, for obvious reasons.
 
Stupid letter in my opinion. That's a lot of big talk for a program that sucks (in a relative sense). He's talking about expecting unqualified excellence in football, but they are not even close and prob will never be, or should be, for obvious reasons.

Navy is their measuring stick, which makes sense since they operate with similar limitations.

Our athletics programs exist for several reasons, but one of them is to represent our schools. It's reasonable to expect excellence.
 
Navy is their measuring stick, which makes sense since they operate with similar limitations.

Our athletics programs exist for several reasons, but one of them is to represent our schools. It's reasonable to expect excellence.

if he's just talking about Navy, then it's fine, but that letter is full of big talk, throwing around the excellence word....army is on the cusp of not being legit division one...they annually are in the bottom 20%, losing to teams like eastern kentucky...people can expect whatever they like, but reality is reality....last year they lost 20-3 to stony brook....you just look silly talking about greatness like that when you lost 20-3 to stony brook....that's just my opinion
 
if he's just talking about Navy, then it's fine, but that letter is full of big talk, throwing around the excellence word....army is on the cusp of not being legit division one...they annually are in the bottom 20%, losing to teams like eastern kentucky...people can expect whatever they like, but reality is reality....last year they lost 20-3 to stony brook....you just look silly talking about greatness like that when you lost 20-3 to stony brook....that's just my opinion

So, the letter would be more appropriately worded, "In order to achieve our reasonable objectives based on certain realities, which we all recognize..."?
 
So, the letter would be more appropriately worded, "In order to achieve our reasonable objectives based on certain realities, which we all recognize..."?

Well, in military terms that would be called situational awareness....and that letter ain't got none, in my opinion.
 
Well, in military terms that would be called situational awareness....and that letter ain't got none, in my opinion.

I just read the letter again, and I'm not sure the specific language that you find so objectionable. The Army expects to have a "winning program" and believes that giving it their best is insufficient, and that "Victory" is the expectation.

None of that sounds unreasonable, and additionally seems in line with the institutional values.

What am I missing?

Jesus Christ, I can't believe I'm defending the Army.
 
I just read the letter again, and I'm not sure the specific language that you find so objectionable. The Army expects to have a "winning program" and believes that giving it their best is insufficient, and that "Victory" is the expectation.

None of that sounds unreasonable, and additionally seems in line with the institutional values.

What am I missing?

Jesus Christ, I can't believe I'm defending the Army.

The tone, but specifically the last paragraph...sort of unqualified focus on winning....losing not acceptable, etc. Is he talking about just the Navy game or all games? Also, earlier he's talking about the "best" leaders on the field. The tone seems incongruent with what they are and have been and what they are realistically limited to be on the football field. "We will accept nothing short of excellence and the best...losing is not an option, but stony brook kicked our asses...along with eastern kentucky."

Anyway, i'm beating a dead horse.
 
The tone, but specifically the last paragraph...sort of unqualified focus on winning....losing not acceptable, etc. Is he talking about just the Navy game or all games? Also, earlier he's talking about the "best" leaders on the field. The tone seems incongruent with what they are and have been and what they are realistically limited to be on the football field. "We will accept nothing short of excellence and the best...losing is not an option, but stony brook kicked our asses...along with eastern kentucky."

Anyway, i'm beating a dead horse.

How is this different, for instance, than Bevo's insistence on reaching out to coaches they can't have? At some point, you have to maintain high expectations and pursue them, even to the point of failure. But you don't sacrifice those goals.
 
How is this different, for instance, than Bevo's insistence on reaching out to coaches they can't have? At some point, you have to maintain high expectations and pursue them, even to the point of failure. But you don't sacrifice those goals.

That's a good point. I think a lot about expectations in general and expectations for myself, specifically. More art than science i guess. Set 'em too high and they serve as demotivator. Set 'em too low and you're leaving money on the table, so to speak.
 
Please measure your response carefully, Orr - I don't want to have to neg rep you, but I will if you continue to defend the army in this context.
 
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