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Men's Tournament Seeding

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Looking over the possible scenarios, it appears we could end up anywhere from 3rd to 9th, but I don't see anyway the buffs can actually get a 5 seed. The Pac-12 logjam is really frustrating sometimes.

Tiebreakers

If tied with Cal: TBD (head to head determines, unless 3 way tie)
If tied with Stanford: TBD (head to head determines, unless 3 way tie)
If tied with Oregon: We win (head to head determines)
If tied with ASU: We lose (record vs #1 seed determines)
If tied with Utah: we lose (record vs #2 seed determines, they beat UCLA once)
If tied with UW: we lose (If UW beats UCLA they win because of record vs #2 seed. If UW loses vs UCLA they win because of record vs #3 seed I think. 1-0 vs 1-1)
If tied with OSU: we win (head to head determines)



If CU goes 2-0 they will guarantee a 1st round bye with seed determined on how ASU performs. ASU needs to lose both games this week for CU to be able to grab the #3 seed.

If CU goes 1-1 by beating Cal and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Stanford, then Cal earns the 4th seed by three way tiebreaking for their win over UofA
If CU goes 1-1 by beating Cal and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Cal, then Stanford earns the 4th seed by having the better record.
If CU goes 1-1 by beating Stanford and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Cal, then Cal earns the 4th seed by three way tiebreaking for their win over UofA
If CU goes 1-1 by beating Stanford and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Stanford, then Cal earns the 4th seed by having the better record.

ASU must win 1 game this week to lock in a 1st round bye. If they lose both, then they own the tiebreaker over Cal but lose the tiebreaker over Stanford, assuming those 3 end up with the same record.


Just looking at the standings and starting to work through the tiebreakers, if CU loses 1 or 2 games then they do not have any say over there destiny. They could fall as low as 9th.

The matchups this week are:

Mountain @ Bay Area
Desert @ Oregon
LA @ Washington
 
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What a mess. I've been trying to game this out in my head but kept getting tied up over the tie breakers. For us right now, it's simple - we control our own destiny. Win both and we will get a bye.
Unfortunately, I doubt that will happen, so we are going to get caught up in one of the scenarios above.
 
Looking over the possible scenarios, it appears we could end up anywhere from 3rd to 9th, but I don't see anyway the buffs can actually get a 5 seed. The Pac-12 logjam is really frustrating sometimes.

Tiebreakers

If tied with Cal: TBD (head to head determines, unless 3 way tie)
If tied with Stanford: TBD (head to head determines, unless 3 way tie)
If tied with Oregon: We win (head to head determines)
If tied with ASU: We lose (record vs #1 seed determines)
If tied with Utah: we lose (record vs #2 seed determines, they beat UCLA once)
If tied with UW: we lose (If UW beats UCLA they win because of record vs #2 seed. If UW loses vs UCLA they win because of record vs #3 seed I think. 1-0 vs 1-1)
If tied with OSU: we win (head to head determines)



If CU goes 2-0 they will guarantee a 1st round bye with seed determined on how ASU performs. ASU needs to lose both games this week for CU to be able to grab the #3 seed.

If CU goes 1-1 by beating Cal and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Stanford, then Cal earns the 4th seed by three way tiebreaking for their win over UofA
If CU goes 1-1 by beating Cal and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Cal, then Stanford earns the 4th seed by having the better record.
If CU goes 1-1 by beating Stanford and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Cal, then Cal earns the 4th seed by three way tiebreaking for their win over UofA
If CU goes 1-1 by beating Stanford and Utah goes 1-1 by beating Stanford, then Cal earns the 4th seed by having the better record.

ASU must win 1 game this week to lock in a 1st round bye. If they lose both, then they own the tiebreaker over Cal but lose the tiebreaker over Stanford, assuming those 3 end up with the same record.

Just looking at the standings and starting to work through the tiebreakers, if CU loses 1 or 2 games then they do not have any say over there destiny. They could fall as low as 9th.

The matchups this week are:

Mountain @ Bay Area
Desert @ Oregon
LA @ Washington
How many teams have finished as low as 9 out of 12 teams (or an equivalent %) and still gotten an AT-L bid?
 
How many teams have finished as low as 9 out of 12 teams (or an equivalent %) and still gotten an AT-L bid?

I can't think of any. Closest I can think of is the Big East getting 30 teams in a few years ago, but they had more than 12 teams.
 
Ya Big east got 11/16 in. So percentage that is 68.75% of teams. CU as 9th in the conference would be at 75%. Luckily though the Selection Committee doesn't seem to care about conference standings.
 
I can't think of any. Closest I can think of is the Big East getting 30 teams in a few years ago, but they had more than 12 teams.
I was thinking the Big East to. In addition to having more teams, the caliber of play was also much better.
 
Ya Big east got 11/16 in. So percentage that is 68.75% of teams. CU as 9th in the conference would be at 75%. Luckily though the Selection Committee doesn't seem to care about conference standings.
They say they don't but I have a hard time believing they don't completely factor it out.
 
Just win a ****ing game so we don't end up playing Oregon or someone with a pulse in the first round.
 
Year we won the pac-12 they left out the regular season conference champs and took Cal instead. It happens.
Yeah which was just an awful year for the Pac-12. Some of our detractors might say, it diminished winning the P-12 Tourney, I would disagree with that.
 
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