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CU - DU Secret Scrimmage

The Buffs (reportedly) beat the Pioneers by 7 in their secret scrimmage. I got that information from my friend Justin Coughlin, who played for the Pioneers from '08-'12 (which is kind of a source, imo). The only other information he had was that it went "really well" (that would be a DU perspective).

So, while a 7 point win over DU won't exactly fuel the hype train here, I think it is encouraging.

1) Denver is good.
2) Buffs won.
3) From a tempo/system perspective, DU is a tough scrimmage partner. I assume there wasn't a lot of game plan implemented for their style.
4) It is good to beat a team who - at least ostensibly - played "really well".

Can't wait to watch this team for myself!
 
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I'm sure there was a lot of experimenting and stuff going on. Was it a "game" type scrimmage or did they do a lot of stopping and starting?
 
My guess would be that it was a "game" if they kept score. I don't think anyone would agree to scrimmage Joe Scott if he was allowed to stop it every 2 minutes, because I'm sure he would stop it every 2 minutes.
 
The Buffs (reportedly) beat the Pioneers by 7 in their secret scrimmage. I got that information from my friend Justin Coughlin, who played for the Pioneers from '08-'12 (which is kind of a source, imo). The only other information he had was that it went "really well" (that would be a DU perspective).

So, while a 7 point win over DU won't exactly fuel the hype train here, I think it is encouraging.

1) Denver is good.
2) Buffs won.
3) From a tempo/system perspective, DU is a tough scrimmage partner. I assume there wasn't a lot of game plan implemented for their style.
4) It is good to beat a team who - at least ostensibly - played "really well".

Can't wait to watch this team for myself!

Rep this man....


Agree on all, but on #3 - this was a great test for CU, DU is the type of team that CU struggles with and certainly a style we'll see against Wyoming.
 
I don't know much about Denver, but they finished 139 in RPI last year with a 16-15 record. They looked like a good offensive team that are terrible at rebounding the ball. Leading scorer Brett Olsen, from Highlands Ranch, returns, but they lost Mr Do it all Chris Udofia. I think they returned 4 of 5 starters, so they are a fairly experienced team, but I doubt they had two guys on the roster that could cover XJ and Scott since we definitely beat them in the size department.

It would be interesting if we know what type of defense they ran against us and the final score.
 
Rep this man....


Agree on all, but on #3 - this was a great test for CU, DU is the type of team that CU struggles with and certainly a style we'll see against Wyoming.

That is true, and to some degree Drexel and ASU I suppose. From that standpoint its nice for Tad to get a team like this now.
 
That is true, and to some degree Drexel and ASU I suppose. From that standpoint its nice for Tad to get a team like this now.

I thougth ASU was going to go back to being slow again, but all of their pre-season hype says they're sticking with the 10 seconds or less plan. It makes no sense, but that's Herb.
 
I don't know much about Denver, but they finished 139 in RPI last year with a 16-15 record. They looked like a good offensive team that are terrible at rebounding the ball. Leading scorer Brett Olsen, from Highlands Ranch, returns, but they lost Mr Do it all Chris Udofia. I think they returned 4 of 5 starters, so they are a fairly experienced team, but I doubt they had two guys on the roster that could cover XJ and Scott since we definitely beat them in the size department.

It would be interesting if we know what type of defense they ran against us and the final score.

DU plays slooooooooow and part of their poor rebounding is by design, as they forgo attempting to grab offensive rebounds to limit transition opportunities. DU usually plays man D but doubles from all over the place and they generally play good team D, so there is good rotation to cover the man doubling. They're a team that plays pretty smart and Scott is a good coach.
 
DU plays slooooooooow and part of their poor rebounding is by design, as they forgo attempting to grab offensive rebounds to limit transition opportunities. DU usually plays man D but doubles from all over the place and they generally play good team D, so there is good rotation to cover the man doubling. They're a team that plays pretty smart and Scott is a good coach.


thanks, when I said they were a good offensive team, I only looked at their FG% and high assist rate, so I never looked at their pace, ppp, or ppg. I am starting to sense that teams employ this methodical style in order to minimize differences in talent.
 
Very cool. Tad is very deliberate in his scheduling, so I'm sure that he got out of this scrimmage what he needed to see. So excited for this season to start.
 
I thougth ASU was going to go back to being slow again, but all of their pre-season hype says they're sticking with the 10 seconds or less plan. It makes no sense, but that's Herb.

Hey, the day I figure Herb out will be the day I quit hoops. He's a weird guy.
 
thanks, when I said they were a good offensive team, I only looked at their FG% and high assist rate, so I never looked at their pace, ppp, or ppg. I am starting to sense that teams employ this methodical style in order to minimize differences in talent.

Apropos of nothing, but it is kind of the opposite of football. Teams speed up to overcome talent differences. </showerthoughts>
 
More signs the team really is lacking in the PG department. Also that's installing a new offense.
 
More signs the team really is lacking in the PG department. Also that's installing a new offense.

Dom still being forced to sit out is a concern. He's not going to be up to speed for game 1. I'd expect a lot of JHop & XT to start the year.
 
Dom still being forced to sit out is a concern. He's not going to be up to speed for game 1. I'd expect a lot of JHop & XT to start the year.
Yup. Not good to have the x-factor for this team sitting out most of the preseason.
 
My guess would be that it was a "game" if they kept score. I don't think anyone would agree to scrimmage Joe Scott if he was allowed to stop it every 2 minutes, because I'm sure he would stop it every 2 minutes.
I think the term I was looking for was "controlled." Was it a controlled scrimmage?
 
I think the term I was looking for was "controlled." Was it a controlled scrimmage?

Likely much of it was, with stops and starts for "teaching/coaching" moments at least for awhile. Have seen secret vids of such scrimmages and the first half is almost always teaching.
 
DU plays slooooooooow and part of their poor rebounding is by design, as they forgo attempting to grab offensive rebounds to limit transition opportunities. DU usually plays man D but doubles from all over the place and they generally play good team D, so there is good rotation to cover the man doubling. They're a team that plays pretty smart and Scott is a good coach.

Are they still playing the Princeton O?
 
17 turnovers....

Its not the total, its who had them?

Back when Tad tried get the "O" to flow through Dre, he would have 4-5 TO/half, since he simply was unused to handling the ball down low.

If this was mostly the front line trying to learn the new "O", no big deal.
 
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