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Stoops to Michigan?

Why would Stoops go to Michigan? He's worshiped, nearly literally, in Norman and is one of the highest-paid coaches in the country already.

Of the list on that site, I'd say it's the guy from Cincinnatti who'll be in Ann Arbor next year.
 
id be shocked if michigan ponied up the cash to get stoops out of norman
 
Why would Stoops go to Michigan? He's worshiped, nearly literally, in Norman and is one of the highest-paid coaches in the country already.

Yep, Stoops is not going anywhere

Of the list on that site, I'd say it's the guy from Cincinnatti who'll be in Ann Arbor next year.

I was thrilled that NU did not pursue Kelly harder. I also think he's the next Meatchicken coach.
 
Word is down here that Mike Leach is favored to HC at UCLA.
 
Yep, Stoops is not going anywhere



I was thrilled that NU did not pursue Kelly harder. I also think he's the next Meatchicken coach.

stoops would be silly to go anywhere else, given his set up. he does not strike me as a particularly silly man.

as for nu, there had to be somewhat of a recognition that their coaching woes the past several years would not be the fire many would want to jump into. added to that tom wants to have his thumb in the decision making. they were not going to secure a proven head coach with those constraints.
 
Word is down here that Mike Leach is favored to HC at UCLA.

It'd be interesting to see that gimmick offense in the Pac-10, hell it might actually work in that conference. Has that O produced any quality offensive players other than Wes Welker? (I still have not forgiven that lil turd for his game against us in 2003.)
 
It'd be interesting to see that gimmick offense in the Pac-10, hell it might actually work in that conference. Has that O produced any quality offensive players other than Wes Welker? (I still have not forgiven that lil turd for his game against us in 2003.)


Ricky Williams RB for Tech? I seem to recall that he was a little RB that was pretty good under that Offense.
 
Ricky Williams RB for Tech? I seem to recall that he was a little RB that was pretty good under that Offense.

Sorry, I left out the part about "going on to be good NFL players". Welker is the only TT player I can recall to have any kind of NFL sucess. Crabtree will be the next.
 
Sorry, I left out the part about "going on to be good NFL players". Welker is the only TT player I can recall to have any kind of NFL sucess. Crabtree will be the next.

Yeah Welker is a freak! The guy has stick em for hands....I always thought their stud TE Joel Filani or WR Jarrett Hicks would amount to something.
 
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I have a hard time seeing Stoops leaving OU. Brian Kelly would be a good fit at Michigan. I am also hearing Pinkel's name attached to the UM job...then again, Miles hasn't signed his extension you know....
 
I have a hard time seeing Stoops leaving OU. Brian Kelly would be a good fit at Michigan. I am also hearing Pinkel's name attached to the UM job...then again, Miles hasn't signed his extension you know....

From what I have heard its based on winning the "big one" but that was posted on a LSU board so who friggen knows!
 
It'd be interesting to see that gimmick offense in the Pac-10, hell it might actually work in that conference. Has that O produced any quality offensive players other than Wes Welker? (I still have not forgiven that lil turd for his game against us in 2003.)

Crabtree will be #2, I think.
 
From what I have heard its based on winning the "big one" but that was posted on a LSU board so who friggen knows!

Something is going on with that. Otherwise, there's no reason to wait to sign it. If the terms have been agreed upon, something else is holding it up.
 
Unless it's being done unbelievably quietly, Stoops isn't really being pursued by Michigan. I've been reading their papers/blogs/boards pretty obsessively over the last week+ (from Michigan, so also a UM fan), and no one seems to be taking that talk very seriously.

Other than Miles (which the majority seems to like, but will almost certainly not happen now), the main talk recently seems to be Ferentz (which very few people are excited about), Pinkel (which even fewer are excited about), and several others (who no one is excited about). Others mentioned: Jim Grobe, Jeff Tedford, Mike Trgovac, Ron English, Mike Debord (UM's OC...pretty sure there'd be riots if it's him though).

Kelly leads the list of those that the fans like, but the administration doesn't seem to even have him on their list because of some past off-field questions.
 
I was told to not rule Miles out at UM, granted this is coming from a significant MSU booster, so who knows.
 
From what I have heard many Michigan fans are pissed that their AD will shell out big bucks to renovate the Big House, but is reluctant to put serious cash on the table for a good coach and is rather looking at their current staff. Miles´ buy out and demands also were one of the big sticking points in their negotiations with Miles or rather his agent.
 
From what I have heard many Michigan fans are pissed that their AD will shell out big bucks to renovate the Big House, but is reluctant to put serious cash on the table for a good coach and is rather looking at their current staff. Miles´ buy out and demands also were one of the big sticking points in their negotiations with Miles or rather his agent.

Not just fans, former players as well: http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2007/12/former_um_players_wonder_what.html

Oh, and money doesn't seem to be the biggest problem...it appears that there actually weren't any negotiations: http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2007/12/carty_why_wouldnt_martin_call.html
 
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Oh, and money doesn't seem to be the biggest problem...it appears that there actually weren't any negotiations: http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2007/12/carty_why_wouldnt_martin_call.html

The whole thing is extremely fishy.

This is from the DFP

EXCLUSIVE: When Miles needed an answer, where was U-M's athletic director?

December 4, 2007

BY MICHAEL ROSENBERG

FREE PRESS COLUMNIST

Last Friday evening, word filtered back to Ann Arbor: Louisiana State was trying to sign football coach Les Miles to a huge extension.

Miles was widely believed to prefer the Michigan job. He had sent signals through back channels for weeks, and he knew the terms of a pending five-year Michigan offer.

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But now he needed to know, for sure, that he was Michigan's man.

As I wrote in Sunday's Free Press, U-M athletic director Bill Martin could not provide that assurance. I now know that was only part of the story.

Martin did not even tell Miles' representatives to hang on and wait until their Sunday or Monday interview.

He didn't tell Miles, or anybody else, anything.

Multiple people at U-M have told the Free Press that Martin was nowhere to be found. Several people tried to reach him, in pretty much every way. They all struck out.

We live in the era of constant communication: cell phones, text messaging, e-mails, BlackBerries, Sidekicks, iPhones. There are 50 ways to find your lover.

Yet nobody could find Bill Martin. He was unreachable.

One person familiar with what happened said Martin was in Florida. A database search found an address for a William C. and Sally Martin in Key Largo, Fla., by the Ocean Reef Club. Another database search showed two other addresses for that William Martin: the U-M athletic director's home address in Ann Arbor, and the address for his business, the First Martin Corporation.

Martin is an avid sailor and pilot. This past weekend, the Ocean Reef Club hosted Vintage Weekend, which Forbes magazine has described as "a showcase of the finest automobiles, motor yachts and aircraft."

How, on the most important weekend of the year, could the Michigan athletic director simply drop out of contact with everybody?

I attempted to reach Martin on Tuesday, but a U-M spokesman said he was unavailable. So we can only search for explanations.

• EXPLANATION NO. 1: Martin blew it.

Hey, it's possible Martin just flaked out. Maybe he naively assumed LSU would wait until after Saturday's SEC championship game to offer Miles an extension, and he never imagined that LSU would make a take-it-or-leave-it offer to a highly successful coach.

Miles had sent every possible signal that he wanted the Michigan job, short of dressing his LSU team in winged helmets. Maybe Martin figured Miles would never sign an extension without talking to Michigan, and so the athletic director went sailing. Maybe.

• EXPLANATION NO. 2: Martin knew exactly what he was doing.

There was a growing movement at Michigan to stop Miles from getting this job. Fans pin this on Lloyd Carr, whose aversion to Miles is widely known. But Carr is definitely not the only person who thinks Miles is a bad fit for Michigan.

Through intermediaries, the Free Press learned through multiple sources in the Michigan and the Miles camps, U-M had gone way down the line with Miles -- to the point where contract length and terms were no longer an issue and discussion had moved to his staff. From all indications, Martin had pinpointed Miles as his guy early. Right up until Saturday's announcement that Miles was staying at LSU, many people at Michigan believed Miles was still Martin's guy.

But what if he wavered? What if he started to think the anti-Miles crowd might have a point?

In this scenario, Martin could have found an out. He could have ducked away, forced Miles to stay at LSU and made it look like Miles' choice.

Yes, it sounds crazy. But here is the evidence to back it up: After LSU won the SEC title, Martin had a chance to interview Miles. After all, permission already had been granted. Miles had agreed to his extension but hadn't signed it. Friends of Les insisted that his interest in Michigan had been sincere.

And what did Martin do?

He made a half-hearted call to Miles' agent Sunday.

Then Martin released a statement basically saying he tried to contact Miles, but, hey, it wasn't going to work out.

We might never know the real explanation. But we do know this: Les Miles wanted Michigan, and when he needed somebody in authority to say Michigan wanted him, nobody could find the athletic director.

Even now, a lot of Michigan fans and Friends of Les still hold out hope. After all, Miles still hasn't signed his extension. And Michigan has obviously not hired anybody else.

What if Michigan dawdles for the next month -- before the Jan. 7 national championship game between LSU and Ohio State -- interviewing candidates but not offering the job to anybody? Miles could coach LSU to the national championship, then take the U-M job.

If you buy Explanation No. 1 -- that this was a colossal mistake -- then that is still plausible.

But if you believe Explanation No. 2 -- that Martin had joined the anti-Miles crowd, or at least conceded to them -- then you can forget about it. That ship has sailed.
 
I just don't understand Michigan.. what is it about them that they can't cough up the money to pay for a coach?
 
I just don't understand Michigan.. what is it about them that they can't cough up the money to pay for a coach?

Probably because they are shelling out a ****load of money to modernize that run down stadium they have in Ann Arbor. If they were smart they'd retain Neinas and go after a high quality assistant where they can get some bargain pricing.
 
Probably because they are shelling out a ****load of money to modernize that run down stadium they have in Ann Arbor. If they were smart they'd retain Neinas and go after a high quality assistant where they can get some bargain pricing.

They are also paying the bball coach $2.5m/yr, so I really don't think money is the problem. The AD tried to explain why he didn't call back: http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2007/12/carty_martin_says_he_got_the_m.html

My favorite part:

"He became frustrated when asked where he was this weekend, insisting that it didn't matter, that he could conduct the coach search from anywhere. He explained that at least part of the problem was he had switched from a Treo phone to a Blackberry and was having some technical problems."

Um, pretty important time for the University...someone want to teach the AD how to use his cell phone?
 
They are also paying the bball coach $2.5m/yr, so I really don't think money is the problem. The AD tried to explain why he didn't call back: http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2007/12/carty_martin_says_he_got_the_m.html

My favorite part:

"He became frustrated when asked where he was this weekend, insisting that it didn't matter, that he could conduct the coach search from anywhere. He explained that at least part of the problem was he had switched from a Treo phone to a Blackberry and was having some technical problems."

Um, pretty important time for the University...someone want to teach the AD how to use his cell phone?

That's the worst excuse I've ever heard. Whether you have a Treo or a Blackberry, the phone still works the same. What a joker this guy is. Good thing I'm not a Meatchicken fan or I'd be pissed.
 
That's the worst excuse I've ever heard. Whether you have a Treo or a Blackberry, the phone still works the same. What a joker this guy is. Good thing I'm not a Meatchicken fan or I'd be pissed.

I'll go out on a limb and say they have pay phones...even in FL.:lol:

I wonder if Miles ever had his face slapped before?
 
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