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What is Dan Hawkins' Style?

This came up in another post, but I think it deserves another thread...

What is Dan Hawkins' style?

For example, Rich Rodriguez's style is the spread - he brought it with him to michigan from WVU. Same for Mike Leach at TTU.

Paul Johnson's style is the option - he brought it with him to GT.

So what did our illustrious coach bring with him? It seems like Boise State ran a form of the spread at Boise State...?
 
Nice sig... He was standing right in front of me with Knowshon Moreno for most of the game
 
I believe its, counters and traps running the ball, screen and bubble passing. With short guys catching the ball and have quick tall guys run deep to create a diversion to throw the ball 3 yards!
 
Um... confusion and "It didn't work, change the game plan" "we'll try a new offense next year"
 
His style? Keep pluggin away. Keep his head up. Take what life throws at you, keep the lemons and make lemonade. Roll with the punches. That's life, afterall...
 
I've always described his style as "1979 Country Crossover". Think Kris Kristofferson meets Pure Prairie League with some free Nike **** thrown in.
 
I believe its, counters and traps running the ball, screen and bubble passing. With short guys catching the ball and have quick tall guys run deep to create a diversion to throw the ball 3 yards!

No, thats wrong. You throw the ball 30 yards , but only net 3.
 
Yep he was definitely there....

That's awesome! Does he have any connection to the Buffs, or does was he just at the game for fun? Was he chiilin with Sanchez?

He must be so impressed with Colorado football teams - what with the Broncos in shambles and the Buffs on the verge of ejecting Talkins from the state...
 
Here are some interesting tidbits that are from the article from SI, since I doubt many read it:

The system: With an unusual blend of numerous offensive styles, Boise State emphasizes unconventional formations (everything from three tight ends to an empty backfield), specialization (in any given game, the Broncos will employ 35-45 different personnel groupings and play as many as eight different receivers or five different running backs) and trick plays.

Why it works: Boise State tends to attract tough-nosed, unselfish players who buy into a system where, particularly at the skill positions, they might not necessarily be on the field every down. For instance, last season's leading rusher, Lee Marks, had 189 carries for 968 yards but scored just two touchdowns because he often ceded his position to goal-line specialist John Helmandollar, who carried just 46 times but scored 14 TDs.

Other than the "Why it works" verbiage, I think one could argue this is consistent with some of what we saw Sunday. It also doesn't sound consistent with what might appeal to a 5* rb who would expect to get all the carries.
 
I believe its, counters and traps running the ball, screen and bubble passing. With short guys catching the ball and have quick tall guys run deep to create a diversion to throw the ball 3 yards!

Have you ever seen a team set up a screen as poorly as the Buffs did on sunday?
 
Here are some interesting tidbits that are from the article from SI, since I doubt many read it:

The system: With an unusual blend of numerous offensive styles, Boise State emphasizes unconventional formations (everything from three tight ends to an empty backfield), specialization (in any given game, the Broncos will employ 35-45 different personnel groupings and play as many as eight different receivers or five different running backs) and trick plays.

Why it works: Boise State tends to attract tough-nosed, unselfish players who buy into a system where, particularly at the skill positions, they might not necessarily be on the field every down. For instance, last season's leading rusher, Lee Marks, had 189 carries for 968 yards but scored just two touchdowns because he often ceded his position to goal-line specialist John Helmandollar, who carried just 46 times but scored 14 TDs.

Other than the "Why it works" verbiage, I think one could argue this is consistent with some of what we saw Sunday. It also doesn't sound consistent with what might appeal to a 5* rb who would expect to get all the carries.

This explains a lot. I guess he had success with it before but aint working now. Why would any top skill position recruit want to play in that system? It sounds nice to talk about unselfishness but Darell Scott has a potential NFL career hanging in the balance. Right or wrong is it fair to put him in this position? If I had millions of dollars on the line and a future family to provide for I'd think very carefully before I committed to play for hawk.
 
Here are some interesting tidbits that are from the article from SI, since I doubt many read it:

The system: With an unusual blend of numerous offensive styles, Boise State emphasizes unconventional formations (everything from three tight ends to an empty backfield), specialization (in any given game, the Broncos will employ 35-45 different personnel groupings and play as many as eight different receivers or five different running backs) and trick plays.

Why it works: Boise State tends to attract tough-nosed, unselfish players who buy into a system where, particularly at the skill positions, they might not necessarily be on the field every down. For instance, last season's leading rusher, Lee Marks, had 189 carries for 968 yards but scored just two touchdowns because he often ceded his position to goal-line specialist John Helmandollar, who carried just 46 times but scored 14 TDs.

Other than the "Why it works" verbiage, I think one could argue this is consistent with some of what we saw Sunday. It also doesn't sound consistent with what might appeal to a 5* rb who would expect to get all the carries.

Wow, that's very insightful on what BSU does and what Hack is trying to do here. It makes a whole lot of sense now and I agree on why would an elite player ever pick CU in that type of system. It wont work here, hasnt worked here, and Hack has failed to realize that.
 
Wings, were you around during the first several seasons for Mac? Cuz we were pretty ****ing godawful then. Just wondering if you did the same amount of namecalling then, or if this is your first taste of struggle.
 
Wings, were you around during the first several seasons for Mac? Cuz we were pretty ****ing godawful then. Just wondering if you did the same amount of namecalling then, or if this is your first taste of struggle.


You know, I must admit I wasnt. I moved to the Front Range in 1987 and became a big fan in 88. In 92 I actually started out at CSewe and transferred to CU a semester later. So, YES I was not around during Mac's early years and I was there from 92-96 therefore perhaps I have been spoiled. I understand that we will always have good years and bad years and based on CU's over 100 yr history we have had more good years than bad. So, I dont think it's unreasonable to expect a turnaround in yr 4 of this coaching regime because I dont believe were in the same place when Mac joined than we were when DH started. I think Mac had a much larger uphill battle than DH had. CU, I believe, is now more a known entity with a Big XII championship, a MNC, and Hiesman trophy winner, none of which we had when Mac became HC. I think DH has had it easier in some ways and yet had produced less in the same amount of time.

Of course this is my perspective from where I stand and NOT having the knowledge of the early 80s CU football my views are naturally different than someone who had been around during that time.

I understand what you're getting at. Show more patience because we've been through this before and I may be proven wrong this season but I dont see a turn around like Mac accomplished with DH.
 
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Hey, I have no problems with your frustration level or even being really ****ing pissed off that we suck so much. It's just that every ****ing post is derogatory toward Hawk and, lately, toward Cody, when he's the subject. I think we all thoroughly understand your lack of happiness at the current state of the program right now -- but could the personal attacks on the staff and players, especially the players, be cut back?

I know that some wins will turn a lot of the negativity around and I'm sorry to single you out on this. You just happen to be one of the most vocal folks this week.
 
I have been pretty vocal and I am very f-in frustrated. I dont want to boycott CU football like some boosters may until DH is gone but I must express my angst. Sorry, I dont always mean to vent in this forum, but my next step would be to start writing emails and letters to the AD and perhaps a phonecall or two adding my name to list of disatisfied alumns.

I dont want to take that next step yet, I would prefer to simply post in blogs/forums and share opinions with other fellow alumni and fans. I dont have a problem with Cody as a person, he's a good young man and I wish we had more like him. I think he would be a good QB in the WAC and am worried if he is our best option leading the O in this conference.

As far as the staff goes, they deserve all the glory and all the angst they get from the Buff Nation. They are grown, professional men who get paid very well to produce a good product. I'm sure they understand that both criticism and fame come with the territory.
 
Wings, were you around during the first several seasons for Mac? Cuz we were pretty ****ing godawful then. Just wondering if you did the same amount of namecalling then, or if this is your first taste of struggle.
I was a freshman in 1983...so, I lived through Buffalo football hell....we were not as vocal then because we did not know any better...
 
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