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NY TIMES: NCAA investigation into Tennessee recruiting "hostesses" practices

JimmyBuff

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Awesome.. :thumbsup:


Interviews with multiple recruits and their family members revealed that the N.C.A.A. has strong interest in Tennessee’s use of recruiting hostesses, students who are part of a formal group at the university that hosts all manner of prospective students at campus visits, including athletes. It is not clear whether the university sent the hostesses to visit the football players.

In one case, hostesses traveled nearly 200 miles to attend a high school game in South Carolina in which at least three Tennessee recruits were playing.

Marcus Lattimore, a running back who made an unofficial visit to Tennessee but said he would not enroll there, said multiple Tennessee hostesses attended a game at James F. Byrnes High School in Duncan, S.C., in September. He said they brought signs, including one that read, “Come to Tennessee.”

“I haven’t seen no other schools do that,” he said. “It’s crazy.”

The hostesses are considered representatives of the university, which would mean they could not recruit players off campus. Therefore, the visits may be considered violations of N.C.A.A. recruiting rules.

Two of Lattimore’s teammates, Brandon Willis and Corey Miller, have orally committed to Tennessee. Lattimore described the hostesses as “real pretty, real nice and just real cool.” He said he thought they had “a lot” of influence in Miller’s and Willis’s commitments to Tennessee.


I think Lattimore is angry he didn't get any like his pals did.. :lol:


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/sports/ncaafootball/09tennessee.html?ref=sports
 
If they'd only go after Texas' "hostess" program. Could you imagine Colorad trying this stuff?
 
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I thought only SLick-Rick was this creative in bending rules. Kiffen may go down on this one, if they find out any of the "hostesses" went down first.
 
I thought only SLick-Rick was this creative in bending rules. Kiffen may go down on this one, if they find out any of the "hostesses" went down first.

That may not be required - as Univ reps they can't recruit, should be automatic, and Tennessee is not USC.
 
This story is total crap! How the hell can responsible reporter write a story about the alleged recruiting violations without providing pictures of the hostesses? Irresponsible reporting in my book!
 
I really, really, really hope this causes Kiffin's class to implode. If I was recruiting against him, I'd be sure to point out that Tennessee could be looking at scholarship reductions and a postseason ban. Also, that committing there and then being named in the scandal could derail an entire college career.

And I'm just being honest. I can't imagine some of the dirt being thrown on the actual recruiting trail.
 
I thought only SLick-Rick was this creative in bending rules. Kiffen may go down on this one, if they find out any of the "hostesses" went down first.


With Kiffen it is not a question of if but rather when. He has the same high regard for the rulebook as the Slickster and an even more arrogant attitude toward those enforcing them. The question is will he win at Tennessee before they drop the hammer on the program. If so he will simply become a roving cheater like Jackie Sherrill and Lou Holtz, cheating his way into higher paying jobs with schools who are willing to risk a little probation for some glory.
 
With Kiffen it is not a question of if but rather when. He has the same high regard for the rulebook as the Slickster and an even more arrogant attitude toward those enforcing them. The question is will he win at Tennessee before they drop the hammer on the program. If so he will simply become a roving cheater like Jackie Sherrill and Lou Holtz, cheating his way into higher paying jobs with schools who are willing to risk a little probation for some glory.
I agree, he is like the John Calipari of football. Hasn't been around as long and they are in different sports but trouble seems to follow them, wonder why? lol :smile2:.
 
# VolDaddy89
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# Send Private MessagePosted: Yesterday 5:33 PM
Information on The Orange Pride....
First off guys, my daughter is a member of The Orange Pride and her picture has been plastered on this site as well as others today with accusations of "whore" and "tramp". Let there be no misunderstanding, my daughter is not a whore. She loves the Tennessee Football Program more than anyone here and she was only trying to help the program out. She did not take money from the University or anyone on the coaching staff. I will say they are encouraged to flirt with the recruits and make them feel welcome, but The Orange Pride has always done that going back to when my wife was a member. My wife and Marion Hobby were the best of friends. Back during college he used to come over and play board games with us at her apartment. He practically lived there and nothing was ever said. In fact, he was there the night the Sandlewood apartment complex caught fire and saved my wifes life. These girls LOVE THE TENNESSEE FOOTBALL PROGRAM. You guys need to watch what you say about people you don't know. My daughter goes to church every Sunday. She doesnt drink and she would never whore herself out and if her picture is posted here again or if her name is even mentioned there will be consquences.
 
# VolDaddy89
# [Scout Subscriber]
# GO VOLS!!
# 519 posts this site
# Send Private MessagePosted: Yesterday 5:33 PM
Information on The Orange Pride....
First off guys, my daughter is a member of The Orange Pride and her picture has been plastered on this site as well as others today with accusations of "whore" and "tramp". Let there be no misunderstanding, my daughter is not a whore. She loves the Tennessee Football Program more than anyone here and she was only trying to help the program out. She did not take money from the University or anyone on the coaching staff. I will say they are encouraged to flirt with the recruits and make them feel welcome, but The Orange Pride has always done that going back to when my wife was a member. My wife and Marion Hobby were the best of friends. Back during college he used to come over and play board games with us at her apartment. He practically lived there and nothing was ever said. In fact, he was there the night the Sandlewood apartment complex caught fire and saved my wifes life. These girls LOVE THE TENNESSEE FOOTBALL PROGRAM. You guys need to watch what you say about people you don't know. My daughter goes to church every Sunday. She doesnt drink and she would never whore herself out and if her picture is posted here again or if her name is even mentioned there will be consquences.


This guy is lying to himself.
 
I will say they are encouraged to flirt with the recruits and make them feel welcome, but The Orange Pride has always done that going back to when my wife was a member.

Love the overprotective father's response. Hey, sir:
Well and good, if your little girl flirted with recruits AWAY from the Tenn campus, then it's an NCAA recruiting violation. No money has to change hands, the U. doesn't have to pay for gas, they don't even have to know about it.

The booster (in this case, your daughter) cannot interact with recruits for the purpose of seducing them to attend a particular university, no matter how well-intentioned or "innocent" her interaction may appear.


Under NCAA rules, a “representative of athletics interests” (more commonly referred to as a “booster”) is any individual, agency or corporate entity who...


  • Has ever made any type of financial or in-kind contribution to the athletics department, to a specific sport program or to an athletics booster organization, including purchasing seating to athletics events (i.e., season ticket holder)
  • Are or have been a member of any organization or agency promoting an institutions athletics
  • Has ever helped to arrange or have provided employment for an enrolled student-athlete, a prospective student-athlete or their parents or relatives
  • Has ever assisted in any manner in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes
  • Has ever provided benefits to enrolled student-athletes or their families or to prospective student-athletes or their families
  • Has otherwise promoted the institution's athletics program in any manner
  • Participated as a varsity athlete at the institution
  • Are a parent or guardian of an enrolled student-athlete

Once an individual or entity becomes a “booster” or “representative of athletics interests,” that identity is retained indefinitely, even if involvement with the athletics program ceases. Some examples of a representative of athletics interests (i.e., booster) are: fans, undergraduate students, graduate students, all university faculty, staff and other employees and alumni.


So, what are some of the real-life instances that constitute being a booster? As mentioned above simply being a fan places one in that category. Such things as buying a prospective student-athlete a meal, talking to a recruit about an institution to buying his parents a house or providing other financial assistance, are all violations of NCAA rules and can result in an institution being penalized for such acts, even if they aren't aware of them. One of the NCAA's most infamous criteria for penalizing a school is that the institution knew, or should have known the actions were taking place.

What can happen to an institution in violation is entirely up to the NCAA, and can range from a letter notifying the school to stop, to being placed on probation along with the loss of scholarship, all the way to what's referred to as the death penalty where a program is basically dismantled for a certain period of time. The affects of such a ruling can be devastating to a program. The only instance of the death penalty being levied against a college football program was when SMU was penalized in 1986 for repeated violations both by boosters and the school itself. The effects of that sanction are still being felt by the program today.

A violation can result in (depending on the severity) a program being stripped of scholarships for a certain number of years, not allowed to participate in post-season bowl games, limited in the number of recruiting trips that can be taken by coaches, and other penalties. A program is also placed on some sort of probation. If another violation is found within the time of that probation, more significant penalties can be levied.
 
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