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A&M out of Pac 10 per Chip Brown

Sportsfan101

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"Texas A&M turned down invite to join P10 in mtg today with P10's Larry Scott and Kevin Weiberg in College Station, a Big 12 AD confirms."
 
Hello, Utah.

I love the Pac 12 lineup:

Colorado
Utah
Arizona
Arizona State
USC
UCLA
Cal
Stanford
Oregon
Oregon State
Washington
Washington State

Let's "zipper" this bad boy into two divisions and call it a day unless there's a game-changing opportunity (i.e, UT).
 
Hello, Utah.

I love the Pac 12 lineup:

Colorado
Utah
Arizona
Arizona State
USC
UCLA
Cal
Stanford
Oregon
Oregon State
Washington
Washington State

Let's "zipper" this bad boy into two divisions and call it a day unless there's a game-changing opportunity (i.e, UT).

UT is coming...what other choice do they have?
 
Am I the only one who thinks Chip Brown is full of sh*t? I put as much creedence in what he says as I do in what Mark Jizla says.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Chip Brown is full of sh*t? I put as much creedence in what he says as I do in what Mark Jizla says.

No...he is horrible. He was fired from the Dallas Morning News, and somehow landed at OB.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Chip Brown is full of sh*t? I put as much creedence in what he says as I do in what Mark Jizla says.

No question he is full of ****, but his reports haven't been all that far off since this whole thing started.
 
Chip retracts statement.

"Cook said A&M has not turned down the Pac-10 and denied Orangebloods.com's report to that effect, citing a Big 12 AD's confirmation."
 
Chip retracts statement.

"Cook said A&M has not turned down the Pac-10 and denied Orangebloods.com's report to that effect, citing a Big 12 AD's confirmation."

I would expect that info is coming from UT because they can't accept the fact that they have been turned down by Aggie. Looks like another unproductive work week ahead. :smile2:
 
http://tamu.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1093875

Talk about it in Northgate


What was once unthinkable has, apparently, come to pass. Texas A&M and the University of Texas, barring the unforeseen or political activity, will be heading their separate ways in 2011. The Aggies will be the newest member of the Southeastern Conference.

Aggieyell.com has confirmed through multiple sources that Pac-10 Commissioner Larry Scott met with members of the A&M Board of Regents in College Station Sunday morning. At that meeting, the Scott was informed that the board would be declining the conference's offer to join. Scott was the second conference head to visit College Station this weekend, with the SEC's Mike Slive being the first.

Aggieyell.com has been told by more than once source that the driving forces behind the move to the SEC are Board Chairman Morris Foster and A&M Chancellor Mike McKinney. In part due to a push by former A&M and Alabama head coach--and current Regent--Gene Stallings, there is a 6-3 board majority in favor of making the move to the SEC.

A&M Athletic Director Bill Byrne was not involved in either meeting and has not been consulted on the decision by the board. This decision, sources indicate, will be the board's alone.

The support of Foster and McKinney, both close associates of Gov. Rick Perry, for the SEC has surprised many observers. Perry, who has repeatedly said he wanted the Texas teams to stick together--a move many thought meant he supported the Pac-10 concept. Perry has since said he intends to stay out of the process, which he may indeed be doing.
 
Let's go Aggies! This is almost too good to be true. No way Big 12 stays together(not that it was anyway) with aggies gone. We get the Texas paycheck and recruiting in the Pac 10 without the Texas voting block thanks to Baylor and aTm being out. Now they will only make up a quarter of the overall Pac 16, assuming OU and OSU vote with them. Bring on Utah, or even KU is fine and we got ourselves the best damn conference in the country.
 
Let's go Aggies! This is almost too good to be true. No way Big 12 stays together(not that it was anyway) with aggies gone. We get the Texas paycheck and recruiting in the Pac 10 without the Texas voting block thanks to Baylor and aTm being out. Now they will only make up a quarter of the overall Pac 16, assuming OU and OSU vote with them. Bring on Utah, or even KU is fine and we got ourselves the best damn conference in the country.

Agreed...great result for CU if it plays out this way....
 
Scotts plane was also in Utah on the 3rd and on Friday. Good amount of smoke that it's Utah too.

Who knows where it ends up. There has been some talk that without A&M, Texas pretty much loses any leverage with regards to the legislature forcing Tech along as well. Maybe Utah replaces Tech and KU replaces A&M.
 
Scotts plane was also in Utah on the 3rd and on Friday. Good amount of smoke that it's Utah too.

Who knows where it ends up. There has been some talk that without A&M, Texas pretty much loses any leverage with regards to the legislature forcing Tech along as well. Maybe Utah replaces Tech and KU replaces A&M.

I was wondering about this. I don't see what Tech gets anyone besides being a lackey for UT. Be awesome if we could get UU and KU along with UT, OU, and someone else.
 
When you look at the media markets that Bevo brings, it's literally like snagging at least 4 Denver markets in 1 shot. Throw in the national ratings they can deliver, the likelihood that they'll pull a bowl appearance and a NCAA tourney appearance for the conference every single year, and them being #1 in merchandising... and they really do draw enough water to choose what 3 friends they want to bring to the club.

And, honestly, if one of those 3 friends just happens to be the #1 program in the history of college football (Oklahoma), the other 2 schools will get rubber stamped as long as they're not small religious schools in the middle of nowhere that bring nothing to the party in football or university research. But even the profile I described was borderline. That's how valuable Texas is to a conference.
 
When you look at the media markets that Bevo brings, it's literally like snagging at least 4 Denver markets in 1 shot. Throw in the national ratings they can deliver, the likelihood that they'll pull a bowl appearance and a NCAA tourney appearance for the conference every single year, and them being #1 in merchandising... and they really do draw enough water to choose what 3 friends they want to bring to the club.

And, honestly, if one of those 3 friends just happens to be the #1 program in the history of college football (Oklahoma), the other 2 schools will get rubber stamped as long as they're not small religious schools in the middle of nowhere that bring nothing to the party in football or university research. But even that profile was borderline. That's how valuable Texas is to a conference.

For all you're saying about UT, there remains the undeniable stain that they've placed on the college football landscape - two destroyed conferences. There's a reason Arky bolted to the SEC. There's a reason CU and NU bolted to the Pac and Big 10. That reason is UT. Now, maybe they can be controlled in the Pac. If they come here, I certainly hope they can be. I don't expect that the powers that be in the Pac will allow them to get away with half the sh*t that they've gotten away with in the past. But who knows for sure? $$$ has a way of making rational men irrational.
 
sacky,

I believe UT can be controlled in the Pac X. My reasoning is that the Los Angeles tv market is 5.7 million households and all the revenue that represents. Dallas-Ft. Worth (2.5 million) and Houston (2.1 million) combined still fall over a million viewer homes short. How big is 1.1 million households? Well, that's the San Diego market that the LA schools also bring.

And the impressive 2.5 million number from DFW? That's only the equal of the Pac's current #2 market of San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose.

Also, Phoenix with its 1.9 million households and Seattle-Tacoma with its 1.8 million households aren't going to be pushed around either. The next most sizable market that Bevo brings is the 830k households in San Antonio. Austin's another 680k. And that's roughly equal to another California market I hadn't even mentioned... the 1.4 million households in the Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto market.

Basically, there is nothing that Bevo can bring to this party that makes it able to dominate the conference.
 
sacky,

I believe UT can be controlled in the Pac X. My reasoning is that the Los Angeles tv market is 5.7 million households and all the revenue that represents. Dallas-Ft. Worth (2.5 million) and Houston (2.1 million) combined still fall over a million viewer homes short. How big is 1.1 million households? Well, that's the San Diego market that the LA schools also bring.

And the impressive 2.5 million number from DFW? That's only the equal of the Pac's current #2 market of San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose.

Also, Phoenix with its 1.9 million households and Seattle-Tacoma with its 1.8 million households aren't going to be pushed around either. The next most sizable market that Bevo brings is the 830k households in San Antonio. Austin's another 680k. And that's roughly equal to another California market I hadn't even mentioned... the 1.4 million households in the Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto market.

Basically, there is nothing that Bevo can bring to this party that makes it able to dominate the conference.

Don't kid yourself. UT brings much more than just Dallas. It brings the entire state of Texas. Just like CU brings more than just Denver - it brings the entire state of Colorado.

Still, point taken. I suppose in a perfect world, the Pac gets a neutered UT that will play nice with it's new friends.
 
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