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Alfred Williams goes head to head with SI writer George Dohrmann

That little pansy reteller of lies should be glad he was on the phone and not in the same room with Big Al.

Yeah, because it's a buff player it must be all made up. Love the part where Alfred says that unless it's confirmed by both parties it must be a lie.
 
Yeah, because it's a buff player it must be all made up. Love the part where Alfred says that unless it's confirmed by both parties it must be a lie.

Is a husker really talking **** about this type of thing? Dr. Tom hid a gun from the cops so a player wouldn't get in trouble. It been stated therefore it is fact. Of course TO is going to deny it, he is the one that did it.
 
Yeah, because it's a buff player it must be all made up. Love the part where Alfred says that unless it's confirmed by both parties it must be a lie.

I posted this in the other thread we have on the topic, but I'll go ahead and put it in here as well:

me said:
Let me preface this with a couple things:

1. When this story first broke, I thought it was probably true
2. Even if Alfred and Kanavis are telling the truth 100% here, I am sure some CU players have taken money at some point while they were at CU. That's just the reality of college football.

The more I think about this (and listen to clips), I believe Alfred and Kanavis are telling the truth. The whole thing just feels wrong. Alfred was so pissed when he found about this story last week that he had his lawyer send a letter threatening a lawsuit if they didn't remove all references to him in the story. They complied and removed Alfred's name and the author would not discuss Alfred's version of what went down even though Alfred says he was there. Why would they do that if they thought the story was legit?

Also, Alfred sounded pissed. Like "I'm gonna beat somebody's ass" pissed off. If he was faking that, he's a great actor. And the author is an asshat. He didn't care one iota when Al said he was there when Luchs met Kanavis. It didn't phase him. He would not discuss the timeline inconsistencies.

I might be wrong, I dunno. It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. Just my $.02.
 
Yeah, because it's a buff player it must be all made up. Love the part where Alfred says that unless it's confirmed by both parties it must be a lie.

**** off you scumbag husker. It amazes me your "ROIDING ERA" has never come to light. Husker fan talking anything about any other program with all the garbage you had going on at your program should just sit down and STFU.
 
**** off you scumbag husker. It amazes me your "ROIDING ERA" has never come to light. Husker fan talking anything about any other program with all the garbage you had going on at your program should just sit down and STFU.

and that folks is how you shut a husker up. thanks syko
 
big al may be a lot of things, but he is passionate and seems to be honorable. if there was any truth to this he wouldn't have gone after the author like that. it is good to see CU universally stand up against this. Kavavis flies to Colorado, Big Al goes after the author, Mac writes an article in the Camera. If only our head coach would ever show this much passion.
 
It's too bad that I don't get to listen to Alfred much anymore. He's a good radio personality. And Alfred did sound a different kind of pissed off. That leads me to believe that he's telling the truth. I hope he is. That writer was an asshat. Hopefully, Alfred and K.Mc are in the right and the truth gets out.

With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if Colorado players were involved in something like this in the past. Maybe not now cause nobody would put our players on any payroll :)
 
**** off you scumbag husker. It amazes me your "ROIDING ERA" has never come to light. Husker fan talking anything about any other program with all the garbage you had going on at your program should just sit down and STFU.

Who ever denied that ot the fact that we had a team full of thugs in the 90's? Certainly not me. My best friend was good friends with the Peter brothers and Wistrom who lived together. He's told me the stories. They were no angels and I'm sure more than a few palms were greased in that era, as they still are. I fully accept the fact that the NU players were on roids. No way they weren't. My point is everyone is quick to assume that every other player named in this article is guilty, but, oh lord, not CU players, innocent angels that they were. Why the f*** would this guy just pull KM's name out of nowhere and make this up? With the thousands of players across the nation, why him? Anyone want to address this or just deny, deny, deny?
 
Why the f*** would this guy just pull KM's name out of nowhere and make this up? With the thousands of players across the nation, why him? Anyone want to address this or just deny, deny, deny?

As soon as you address my post above, I'll address yours...

EDIT: And Kanavis does not deny meeting him but says it was not until spring 1991, which was after their senior season. Alfred says he was there.
 
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I resent being told that I assume that the non-Colorado guys took money. If they did and want to corroborate it, then ok. If they deny it then it's one guy's word against another. With guys that have never been in any trouble, I put more value on their word. For example, Dustin Keller has come out and said that Luchs misrepresented things. Kanavis McGhee is in that category. With guys that have shown themselves to be douchenozzles, I don't give their word any more weight than douchenozzle Luchs. Santonio Holmes and Ryan Leaf fall into that category for me.

I honestly don't believe I'm being a homer here.
 
Alfred told the author that's not the way it happened and they printed it anyway, although they didn't use Alfred's name. That's BS.

The author defended himself on the radio by stating they were able to corraborate 9 or so of the stories. Why didn't they use those 9 and leave KM out? Just because they were able to corraborate 9 of them, doesn't make the rest all true. Certainly it gave SI some confidence that he was telling the truth in all of them and that the players doing the denying were probably lying.

Mark Schlereth's big point was about the drug testing and frankly I thought he sounded foolish. The guy said we talked to the player and confirmed the story. Just because the NFL requires the players to pee in the cup in front of a Dr., doesn't mean this player knew that and didn't ask the agent to pee in a cup the night before. If the player admitted it happened, next point.

Also, the timeline issue is a non-issue. Kanavis says he met the guy after his eligibility was up. The agent says it was before that. He said, she said.....

For me it comes down to this: Alfred told them the story was wrong and they printed the Kanavis part anyway and even the Alfred part, but they took Alfred's name out. That's chicken****. They had a story with the 9 above, so go with that. Makes you wonder if they really checked out the story with those other 8-9 huh?

Too bad Alfred couldn't beat this guy senseless.
 
I resent being told that I assume that the non-Colorado guys took money. If they did and want to corroborate it, then ok. If they deny it then it's one guy's word against another. With guys that have never been in any trouble, I put more value on their word. For example, Dustin Keller has come out and said that Luchs misrepresented things. Kanavis McGhee is in that category. With guys that have shown themselves to be douchenozzles, I don't give their word any more weight than douchenozzle Luchs. Santonio Holmes and Ryan Leaf fall into that category for me.

I honestly don't believe I'm being a homer here.
Perhaps not you personally, but from a neutral point of view, that sure seems to be the attitude of the majority of the people here. Let me ask you this, Reggie Bush denied the story from the beginning and now his actions and the things that have happened since the story broke make him look guilty as sin. I didn't believe a word he said from the beginning and I doubt that you did either. How is that any different than this? One person makes a claim, the other denies it. Why believe Kanavis, but not RB?
 
Dude, just stop. With winners like Abdul Muhammad, the Peters, Phillips, etc etc etc, please man just stop.
 
Once again, you are making assumptions. I didn't believe anything one way or the other about Bush's situation until some evidence was presented. And iirc, that agent was able to show pretty quickly that he'd gotten them a house.

With Kanavis, where's the evidence? Dude didn't even produce a plane ticket receipt for a trip to Denver. He's got nothing. But I'm hearing Kanavis and his roommate (Al Williams) saying this is b.s. and Hagan reminding me what blabbermouths Al and Kanavis are. Honestly, that might be the most compelling thing for those of us who have any experience with those guys: there is no way in hell they wouldn't have joked about screwing this dude over and then making that follow up call to rub it in.
 
People. People. People. Lets just let it go. It is not going to have any kind of impact on CU.
 
Is a husker really talking **** about this type of thing? Dr. Tom hid a gun from the cops so a player wouldn't get in trouble. It been stated therefore it is fact. Of course TO is going to deny it, he is the one that did it.

Not only that - cobsker misquoted Alfred - what he says is that you need at least a couple of people to confirm, not necessarily both parties involved. Listening is an important skill.
 
How did Alfred control himself and not let at least one dirty word fly? That was amazing, and as someone who listens to his entire show nearly every day, I have never heard him anywhere close to that pissed off before.
 
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