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I know Buff fans on this board including myself are having wild dreams of the Buffs in the Pac-10. On the offical CU Buffs website, there is a Roundtable Discussion with Buffs AD Mike Bohn. He says he has been in communication with the Big 12 commisioner Dan Beebe.
The Big 12 owns the rights to the Big 14 trademark.
Now suppose the Big 12 counteroffers the Pac-10 and lures both Utah and BYU to the Big 12? I know this doesn't sound as sexy as the Pac-10 but does it make it workable for CU?
I would keep the North intact except send Mizzou to the South and there would be a provision where there would be one team you face every year regardless of the division. There has been talk of a zipper-like divisional set up in the Pac-10 as well. CU would be in a division with one SoCal and NoCal team in that situation and that would be something to appease the Northwestern schools. Perhaps we could explore such a thing with the Big 14 and there would be one rivalry game in that case. For instance, Oregon and Oregon State would be in seperate divisions but still play the Civil War every year. Same thing for the Apple Cup. We'd be paired up with Utah in that case. I'd be for CU being in a seperate division as Texas unless proven otherwise.
I am still in favor of the Pac-10 because it makes sense for CU (screw the other 11 schools) but at the same time, we need to look at expanding the Big 12. I don't think we need anymore Texas schools.
If the Big 12 was to go to 16, I'd want to add CSU and Wyoming while the AFA flyboys go independent.
It's possible. If the voting could be diluted to make UT less of an 800 lb. gorilla every time an issue comes up, then the B12 could survive. IMO, as long as UT has the pull it has, CU, MU and anybody else ought to pull an Arky and get while the getting is good.
gawd no, I want out of the Big 12 bad!
it would make the north tougher, but I would rather be in a PAC:14 than a PAC:12
the issue for the b12 is "who do you add?"
ok, let's say they add byu and utah--- that gives them one more 3rd tier market. will that be enough to get the conference a huge new tv deal?
and, if not byu and utah, then who? who else is out there that (a) is culturally, academically, and athletically a fit AND (b) brings more tv sets to the conference?
arkansas? why would they leave the sec?
iowa? why would they leave the b10?
unm (small market, small budget), csu (small budget, redundant market), air force (redundant market), unlv (academic issues, small budget)?
i think the b12 would love to expand in order to protect itself but where are the candidates that will help it accomplish the goal?
presume that the p10 and b10 have been informally working together on their expansion plans... if so, the floated alliance between the p10 and b12 seems pretty far-fetched.
could the sec and b12 form a super-conference alliance? what's in it for the sec?
maybe the b12 goes super-conference and picks off all the best of the non-bcs teams... boise state, utah, byu, etc... maybe that might work?
i dunno... maybe i am missing it, but i don't see a whole lot of paths to success for the b12. and the prospects get worse if CU and/or mizzery leave. and the prospects get catastrophically worse if texas and/or atm leave...
If the B12 went on offense, they should attack the Chicago market. Northwestern and Illinois would sew up the middle of the country.
An other aggressive B12 stategy would be an assault on Florida. Picking up Miami and Florida State would add some counterbalance to the SEC, boost the talent in the league with both Texas and Florida as prime recruiting ground, and add some major TV markets.
Originally Posted by sweaty teets
Colorado football is not a matter of life and death; it's more important than that.
I actually think the B12 would be stronger if UT left than it is now. The Texas TV market is sewn up already. Losing UT wouldn't lose any TV sets. I would be in favor of staying in the Big 12 if Texas left and we added TCU, SMU, Houston or Tulane.
Yes, Tulane. Can you imagine the roadies to Tulane? Better than Vegas, that's for damn sure. I don't care how good they are on the field of play. In fact, I'd prefer a few more patsies in this league.
The "Big 14" proposal really does nothing for me.
One of the big issues is that CU's academic and cultural perceptions on the national level are heavily influenced by the conference we are in. CU is seen as compatible with Kansas State and Oklahoma State because we are affiliated with them.
And since I wasn't living in Colorado during the glory years but was a big fan, I have a pretty decent grasp of what people thought of CU around the country. What they thought is that CU compromised everything to win at football by bringing in a bunch of gangbangers under Props 48 and 42, turning them loose to break the law, letting them leave without degrees (pre-APR days), and looking the other way with a lot of infractions. Before the "scandal", it was building with incidents like ex-CU guys such as Westbrook beating the crap out of Stephen Davis and Rae Carruth having his baby mama killed. The perception was that the media had held off despite what was going on and CU got away with it as long as they had an upstanding, devout christian as its head coach that the media couldn't impugn. And that this house of cards crumbled when we no longer had goody-goody Mac to deflect the criticism and, instead, had a guy who skirted the rules (Neuheisel) and a guy whose previous program got caught up in a gambling scandal under his watch (Barnett).
Expanding the football factory Big 8 by bringing in 4 teams from what had been the dirtiest football factory conference in the country (SWC) did nothing to help this perception. If anything, it just added Texas-sized egos to the football factory arms race.
CU needs to leave this mess behind and join the Pac-10. We need a fresh start in a conference where we can compete without having a stigma attached to it.
Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. - Alex Levine
2002: last time CU finished the season ranked
2005: last winning season
2007: last bowl game
Yep, no shady boosters or illegal benefits for players going on in the Pac-10.
slightly sarcastic, but I still get your original meaning.
Adding a couple of Florida teams? I don't know, that's quite a stretch geographically....
this idea is like your fat wife who doesn't give you any loving getting a boob job. Thats nice, but she still sucks.
Yep. All about perception. U$C's probably dirtier than anyone in the Big 12, Oregon probably takes as many risks on guys with questionable character as anyone in the Big 12, and Oregon State probably takes as many academic risks as anyone in the Big 12 (short of KSU). But that's not the perception. I'd love to see a national survey on academic reputation and NCAA rules integrity by conferences. My guess would be that the Big 10 and Pac 10 would fight it out for the top spots while the Big 12 and SEC fought it out for the bottom spots on those 2 things.
Yes and no.
Seattle (UW) to Tucson (AZ) is farther apart than Miami and a number of B12 schools.
Charter flights come with megamillion TV contracts.
This is a strategy for money, not convenience.
True, same thing with the ACC spanning the entire East coast from Miami to Boston.
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