Good on ya, Tubs. At least the man is honest.
Ol Tommy, coming from the SEC, sees this for what it is - a sham.
Originally Posted by absinthe
The unfortunate thing is that the "forgotten five" (ISU, KU, KSU, Mizzou, and Baylor) were left in a position of being stranded in no-conference at all, or hoping to join Conference USA or the MWC or something, where they stood to lose significant revenue. ($8 million payout under old Big 12 scheme vs $1 payout under MWC scheme.)
They really had no option but to take the money Texas promised, because, even with the incredibly different payouts UT demanded, because they would have been financially bankrupt without it.
Absolutely correct. They had no choice, but you know they're all keeping their options wide open. I'm sure KU is burning up phone lines to the Big 10, SEC and maybe even the Pac. Mizzou will leave about a half second after they get their offer from the Big 10 - and I still believe that's on the horizon. Mizzou is too geographically well located to be left on the sidelines. Their athletics don't totally suck - they're far better than what we have at CU at the moment. Oklahoma and A&M, while financially better off than the rest of the little 9, have to be chafing under the overbearing influence of UT in the conference. Their only leverage comes from the fact that they *might* leave. Not a good situation to be in.
Tech, Baylor, ISU, KSU, and OSU are screwed, long term. They all better hope the Mack 10 sticks around for a long time because they won't have anyplace to land once it falls apart.
The problem for most of those teams is -- they have no other options.
OU and OSU are going to be locked together, probably the same as KU and KSU are locked together. I don't think the respective states will allow them to split apart into separate conferences. I am somewhat surprised the states have allowed them to separate their revenues to such striking disparity.
Mizzou might have other options, and Kansas might have other options. Baylor, ISU -- no options whatsoever.
OU's president came out and stated that the Sooners did receive an invitation to join the SEC, but they have made it pretty clear that they don't have any desire (guts) to leave the University of Texas.
Good for Tommy to speak his mind it almost seems like a little of the pirate rubbed off on him.
If that's truly the case, he's a moron. Seriously. That was an incredibly stupid move on his part. I wonder if he's blowing smoke on that issue, because I find it incrediby difficult to believe that anybody, much less a University President, could be that stupid.
This tells me that what we all suspected about UT jamming the rest of the conference is probably true, and Tech was one of the "haves" that actually got a Pac invite.
It also tells me the other Pac invites must have been contingent on UT accepting. It's awesome that we had an unconditional offer - I am just amazed how well this worked out for CU.
Tubby knows a shakedown when he sees one. Chip Brown hatchet job on the ingrate Tubby to be posted on Orangebloods.com in 3...2...1....
Colorado having an unconditional offer was a blessing to be sure. I can only assume that was because they knew we would go along with Utah if the PAC 16 failed, which seemed to be a scenario the PAC 10 liked as well. Nonetheless a blessing.
If OU truly turned down an SEC offer they are morons. The SEC and Big 10 will always be at the top of the heap for money due to school demographics, populations demographics and midwest/east coast bias/TVs. If they truly declined I tend to think it was due to fear of competing with the schools in the SEC rather than being attached to UT. OU could potentially be a middle of the road team in the SEC and certainly would not be a perennial power like they are in the Big 12 lite.
UT and Oklahoma have no balls. They are like a small little fixed dog that barks a lot and once a big dog comes their way they run and hide. Both schools know they would get their ass kicked in the SEC and if they joined the conference. The lock on their in state recruiting would break and they would be reduced to going 7-5 and 8- 4 every year. Even now they schedule a bunch of push overs with UT maybe playing one half way decent non conf game every year or two.
I don't believe there was the political will for OU to join the SEC since it would have broken the Big 12 and left OSU out of the picture for joining a new BCS conference.
Here's an article on it. http://content.usatoday.com/communit...-invitations/1
It doesn't sound like OSU was invited to the SEC, which probably was the dealbreaker for the Sooners.
And here's another story which indicates the Big 12 South schools were a package deal. http://enidnews.com/sportslocal/x383...Us-best-option
Look at their roster. I would guess about half of their players come from Texas. They need that connection to fuel their recruiting.
Texas can eat a taint-flavored lollipop.
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