Originally Posted by Boulder Buff
He just wants not JE. Thats fine.
Basically Embree threw down the gauntlet to defend their state these kids. If the US was under fire, you'd bow up, gather courage, bear arms and go to town on our enemies. These kids conversely decided they give two craps about defending their state, turned their back & walked away.
Glad they have other options but they took the weak way out in response to this challenge. Better tho to find out too early vs. too late.
Bottom line is they weren't up for or interested in the challenge Embree provided. To spin it to friends that he said they would **** in other programs is a ckicken **** excuse as to why you aren't interested in CU or Embree.
Disagree with a few comments here. Kozan has conducted his recruitment just fine. He's taking his time, making a decision that's best for him. It would be nice if he chose to play at CU, but if he wants to play out of state, so be it. The talk of him not being tough enough, turning his back on the state or any other such nonsense is just lame.
Maybe he has embraced the challenge of another coach? You seem to think Embree is the only coach who can correctly challenge a player.
Definitely lame. The kid can choose to go out of state if he wants to. Sometimes it's better to go out of state and see more of the world.
well, yeah.
Bottom line is that most of the in-state kids don't see CU as a big time offer. For the ones who have big time offers, there's not enough state loyalty here to overcome that perception unless the kid grew up as a fan.
How, then was Mac able to sell CU to the in state kids when we were considered a bottom ten program?
Did he? He had his successes, but he lost a ton of in-state prospects. The big year we all talk about was Embree's recruiting class where you had a charismatic leader like Embree rallying all the other in-state kids to go do something at CU.
^^This^^
Recruiting was nothing like it is now with net-based recruiting services and video everywhere but Mac's first couple of classes were a struggle. A number of the players he took were guys who had no other significant D1 recruiting options. Eric McCarty (now Dr. McCarty team physician) was considered a major recruiting coup and he was what would now be considered a 3* type of kid.
Mac busted his butt for the first years building his relationships with the Colorado HS coaches and working just to get those coaches and the kids to come out to CU camps. Mac actually had more early success out of state, mainly in areas that he had built those relationships while at Michigan.
eh
I'd say the best argument for kids who leave is that the world is a lot smaller these days. Going away from home isn't as big a deal anymore. Cell phones, computers, etc, have changed the world.
Tell us what the world was like before Edison, DBT.
I'm disappointed in a couple good kids going away. I'm not MAD at their decision. I'm more upset with rumors circulating from some of these kids that Embree said they would be scrubs or crap on other rosters, so they should come to CU. And now that's why they don't want to come.
I've probably listened to every piece of audio Embree has done since signing back up with CU. He's a well-spoken guy. I just don't like the fact that people are making him out to be something he wasn't. These kids just weren't with the challenge to build this program back up again, and that's that.
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