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    CU/KU Take a Knee Philosophy

    I've worked up the clock calcs starting after KU scored to make it 45-24. The time on the clock was 11:05 and I'm snapping the ball with :01 left on the :40 second play clock. I've factored in :06 per CU punt and given the Jayhawks 2:00 to score each TD (being generous on many fronts). Here are the results:

    Colorado 2nd Drive - score 45-24
    1st Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 11:05
    2nd Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 10:26
    3rd Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 9:47
    4th Down: Punt - Start Time 9:08
    Punt Play Time :06 - End Time 9:02
    Kansas Drive
    Total Drive Time (2:00) - End Time 7:02
    Colorado 3rd Drive - score 45-31
    1st Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 7:02
    2nd Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 6:23
    3rd Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 5:44
    4th Down: Punt - Start Time 5:05
    Punt Play Time :06 - End Time 4:59
    Kansas Drive
    Total Drive Time (2:00) - End Time 2:59
    Colorado 4th Drive - score 45-38
    1st Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 2:59
    2nd Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 2:20
    3rd Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 1:41
    4th Down: Punt - Start Time 1:02
    Punt Play Time :06 - End Time 0:56
    Kansas Drive
    Kansas would have 0:56 to score to TIE the game at 45-45.

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    If I remember right Kansas had all 3 timeouts at the start of the fourth quarter...be sure to factor that in somewheres...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stampede View Post
    I've worked up the clock calcs starting after KU scored to make it 45-24. The time on the clock was 11:05 and I'm snapping the ball with :01 left on the :40 second play clock. I've factored in :06 per CU punt and given the Jayhawks 2:00 to score each TD (being generous on many fronts). Here are the results:

    Colorado 2nd Drive - score 45-24
    1st Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 11:05
    2nd Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 10:26
    3rd Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 9:47
    4th Down: Punt - Start Time 9:08
    Punt Play Time :06 - End Time 9:02
    Kansas Drive
    Total Drive Time (2:00) - End Time 7:02
    Colorado 3rd Drive - score 45-31
    1st Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 7:02
    2nd Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 6:23
    3rd Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 5:44
    4th Down: Punt - Start Time 5:05
    Punt Play Time :06 - End Time 4:59
    Kansas Drive
    Total Drive Time (2:00) - End Time 2:59
    Colorado 4th Drive - score 45-38
    1st Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 2:59
    2nd Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 2:20
    3rd Down: QB Kneel - Start Time 1:41
    4th Down: Punt - Start Time 1:02
    Punt Play Time :06 - End Time 0:56
    Kansas Drive
    Kansas would have 0:56 to score to TIE the game at 45-45.
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    True point. Let's just say after they saw us taking a knee, they decided to save their timeouts for the final drive.

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    That amount of time is easy to knock off if you just run simple running plays each time, and you might even get a first down with which to extend the clock.
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    I think a little bit more than 40 seconds would run off with each play. The rule is that the 40 second clock begins when the play is whistled dead. So if CU snapped it, the QB took a step or two back, and then downed the ball, I think it would actually run 42 or 43 seconds per play.

    But your info / summary is very good! Thank you for posting it!

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    ""If we had knelt on the ball at the end of the game, wouldn't that have been the end of the game? Yeah, it would have been. But Gandhi didn't take a knee, Martin Luther King didn't take a knee, Thomas Edison didn't take a knee, and I sure as hell am not going to take a knee."


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    So basically if we had run the ball and stumbled upon a first down, unlikely I know they had us stopped running the ball all day, they wouldn't have had any time to even tie the game. I vote this the best game of Hawk's tenure at CU.

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    Reported on AZ's website... apparently the AD ran the #'s and presented them to Hawk yesterday. Unfortunately, no word on Hawk's response. God that would have been awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowBuff View Post
    Reported on AZ's website... apparently the AD ran the #'s and presented them to Hawk yesterday. Unfortunately, no word on Hawk's response. God that would have been awesome!
    I'm sure his response was, "we were just out there playing football."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unleash Hell View Post
    I'm sure his response was, "we were just out there playing football."

    you gotta take risks in life. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unleash Hell View Post
    I'm sure his response was, "we were just out there playing football."

    LOL..

    Mike Bohn: Uh.... Dan..... we've run some numbers here.... did you realize that if you just sat on the ball every single snap of the 4th quarter, it would be impossible for Kansas to catch up?

    Dan Hawkins: Oh, you know, we were just out there playing football, it was going back and forth. Thanks, Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stampede View Post
    I've worked up the clock calcs starting after KU scored to make it 45-24. The time on the clock was 11:05 and I'm snapping the ball with :01 left on the :40 second play clock. I've factored in :06 per CU punt and given the Jayhawks 2:00 to score each TD (being generous on many fronts). ...

    Kansas would have 0:56 to score to TIE the game at 45-45.
    I've heard people make this comment, you were the first I saw do the math. Rep.

    By the way, are you free to coach next year?

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    Good point about the timeouts, so those would have to be factored in there somewhere, but overall it probably comes out in the wash because because chances are one of their scoring drives would've taken longer than 2 minutes, and just 1 first down by us means they likely don't even get that last drive with 56 seconds left to tie the game.

    The only thing not accounted for here is that onside kick recovery by KU so that would've eliminated our 2nd drive. Still a nice job of putting this together though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaBuff View Post
    Good point about the timeouts, so those would have to be factored in there somewhere, but overall it probably comes out in the wash because because chances are one of their scoring drives would've taken longer than 2 minutes, and just 1 first down by us means they likely don't even get that last drive with 56 seconds left to tie the game.

    The only thing not accounted for here is that onside kick recovery by KU so that would've eliminated our 2nd drive. Still a nice job of putting this together though.

    Don't forget if we are kneeling it, KU likely doesn't score on a fumble return and didn't KU also score after an interception?

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