Reply With QuoteWin Shares have been updated through the Wichita State game. Poor offensive efg% and poor rebounding really brought these number down this week. Where the win against Fort Lewis was statistically worth +1.3 wins, this loss was worth -1.5.
this is a problem with win shares, it doesn't actually account for "playing good defense." it is very difficult to quantify holding your opponent to zero field goals, getting a hand in a guys face, staying in front of your guy or boxing out so a teammate can get a rebound.Originally Posted by Buffnik
so a guy like sharpe for example is probably underrated on defensive win shares, as he doesn't get a lot of boards or blocks but plays pretty good actual d. roberson could for example get lit up by his guy but get 1/3 of cu's boards a block or 2 and look statistically pretty good in def win shares.
all that being said, win shares is the best overall stat we have.
Win Shares have been updated through the Wichita State game. Poor offensive efg% and poor rebounding really brought these number down this week. Where the win against Fort Lewis was statistically worth +1.3 wins, this loss was worth -1.5.
Nate led the team in minutes played, but his win share is below both Shane and Chen. Booker really needs to step up and start taking his minutes.
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While I agree with that, I also have a hard time believing that Nate will play that poorly again this season. Even the people who aren't Nate fans have to admit that he was uncharacteristically bad yesterday.
Actually, I thought he was protypically nate. Your man crush on him gets more confusing every time he steps on the court.
No crush. He's an average PG. Nothing more, nothing less.
And I knew that comment would draw you out.
My hate is strong. Very strong.
I would be disappointed with anything less.
Wins Shares updated through the Maryland game.
Win Shares updated through the Western Michigan game.
Interesting. With Dre out with foul trouble that game, our MVP race has shifted a lot:
1. Austin Dufault
2. Carlon Brown
3. Andre Roberson
4. Askia Booker
5. Shane Harris-Tunks
6. Sabatino Chen
7. Nate Tomlinson
8. Shannon Sharpe
9. Spencer Dinwiddie
Pre-season, I would have guessed the following after knowing our starters:
1. Andre Roberson
2. Carlon Brown
3. Austin Dufault
4. Spencer Dinwiddie
5. Nate Tomlinson
6. Askia Booker
7. Shane Harris-Tunks
8. Shannon Sharpe
9. Sabatino Chen
I'll be interested to see how this adjusts after the Air Force game. 5 games should give us a decent baseline set to the data (about 15% of the season).
When should we start being concerned about Dinwiddie?
I'll get concerned if we don't see him step it up during the home part of the non-conference schedule, beginning with Georgia.
I wouldn't worry too much yet, the good thing is his mistakes are because he is trying, he hasn't gone into a shell on the court and not touched the ball or afraid to throw up shots. Obviously 23% FG shooting isn't ideal, but he is still learning where and when to take his shots.
Adjusted +/- is updated for the 11/12 season.
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