Apples and oranges comparison. I have not seen CU over-sign in years. So moving guys out that do not buy in or have issues is another thing. But moving guys out who do buy in and have no issues is a totally different conversation. They are moving guys out simply because they do not make the two deep....it is an ethical issue.Originally Posted by SuperD
this has been going on for years and not just sec teams. we just happen to root for a team that tries to do thing right.
I sure hope embree is doing this. Many of the players on the roster are not Pac 12 football players and shouldn't be given free rides for their poor football skills. Embree is paid to win football games which means he needs to bring in the best talent so we can win games.
Bama: I like having you on here and enjoy an SEC die-hard perspective but I am a bit curious. What is your fascination with the Buffs? Family, live in Denver, know a player? Just curious, brother.
"Well, no matter how slow a zombie is and how fast you are, they always seem to be able to catch you. The only thing I can figure is they know all the short cuts." - DBT
I can think of many players on scholarship that I'd just assume weren't. However, it really seems unethical to me to make up some kind of contrived story about them being medically unable to perform to get their scholarship back.
I dated a chick with family in Denver. We were going to go to a Buffs game. I found a free website about CU football. I asked questions about gameday etc. A different perspective on college football was refreshing. The next year we played you guys in the Indy Bowl. I meet some of you guys and girls there and dropped Illinois as my second favorite team and picked up the Buffs. I have dropped by for several years now.
If CNS does not have a spot for a kid he will grayshirt him and give him a scholly the next year. We have never left a kid hanging-they know (because they have said it in interviews) their scholarship is contingent on attrition. If he doesn't want to wait he can take one somewhere else. We are talking tops five per year. UA has lost kids because they did not want to greyshirt so I know he is up front with them. You understand we are talking the marginal 20-25 slots anyway. The 5-stars and 4-stars are getting their scholarship. I really don't understand why people think this is 'evil'.
when I said "right" I should have said trying to be fair to players - not cool to sign a bunch of kids by lying to them then yank the rug out... need to recruit kids that have legit shots of playing time and bring competition
Like I said the kids know and I would bet he was told that when he originally committed.
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/01/15/nick-saban-tells-star-atlanta-rb-to-wait-until-next-year-to-sign-with-alabama/
Nice job telling an injured kid with only a couple of weeks left until signing day. Defend him if you want but Saban is a POS and this kid will never be a part of that team.
This quote certainly caught my attention:
He said I’m going to stay in Georgia. They are going to find me a job.
Dats only in da mo-nin
"Living the dream...."
ESFJ
This will probably make national news this week.
http://arkansas.247sec.com/2012/02/0...darius-philon/
This is the ugly side of recruiting.... And I argue it is heightened in the SEC. We have to keep in mind that coaches are constantly trying to improve their status amongst boosters, fans and administration. That support is key to keeping a job, gaining extensions and boosted pay. Recruiting success, especially class ranking is maybe not as important as wins vs losses,but when you don't post good recruiting classes, we as fans get more nervous about the future of the team and that coaches ability to compete. Three of the top five ranked classes this year were SEC schools. No doubt saban and staff evaluated the talent they recruited, but I'm convinced many of the recruits are brought in because they are so highly ranked (thus boosting the ranking of the class). Rivals, scout, et al don't rank based on any academic standard to my knowledge, just football ability. The result... A top ranked recruiting class every year (4*and 5* recruits that ensure saban cred amongst supporters), and several academic or "other" casualties each year to allow 25+ spots to be recruited with new 4*/5* recruits next year. Personally, I think if a school is recruiting kids early they should bear the burden of risk once the kid verbals. I respect the commitment that embo made to Williams and crowder, but we didn't have a dozen 5* ranked kids knocking on the door either. Embo is rebuilding, his word needs to matter, his kids need to succeed at CU. I think Saban is a POS, but i cant deny his success and few would question his recruiting tactics...he plays the game well, is loved by his fans and has success on the field... It's a business in the SEC and he is good for business!
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