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We'll sign a QB. We didn't offer many last cycle either.
Like you, I have been surprised by a few who seem more athlete than pocked passer.
I might be jumping the gun here, but doesn't it seem like we're not offering any QBs this cycle?
Of the QBs we have offered, I would classify Kincade and Solomon as athletes and definitely not what I'd expect our staff to target as QBs. The other three we have offered (Olson, Browne, and Bateman) are absolutely top notch recruits that you take no matter what.
So, assuming I'm right about this, I doubt we end up taking a QB this cycle. Good move? Bad move?
We'll sign a QB. We didn't offer many last cycle either.
Like you, I have been surprised by a few who seem more athlete than pocked passer.
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I think you hit it on the head. With the limited numbers we have for this year and with the depth we have we only take a QB if he is either a guy who is to good to pass up or a guy who can contribute as more than a QB.
Normally you want to have at least one guy in each class but we are very young at the position. Of the guys who have a chance to contend for playing time Hirsch and Wood will both be third year Sophs. Dillon is likely to RS this year as a FR, as emergency guys Schrock and Dorman will both be RSFr. as well.
With the limited number of schollies we have we can't afford to take someone just to have someone. If a guys is going to really compete in the future take him but just having another depth guy doesn't help us as much as someone at another position.
I hope you're right, I guess I just figured we'd have offered some more QBs by now. Maybe they're just being extra careful this year, but I would have thought guys like Tyler Bruggman, Brandon Cox, Hayden Rettig, etc. would have received offers from us by now.Originally Posted by Buffnik
Could this mean that the coaching staff feel pretty good about their chances with the current offers?
It is essential we take a QB in this class. Absolutely essential.
Numbers at a position does not equal depth and I think the QB position looks much different after spring ball (or at least I hope so). I look at it this way: if we fail to land a QB in this class, we are basically banking on Shane Dillon being legit. That seems too risky to me (and I like Dillon as a prospect).
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Not to be all debbie downer, but I sure hope the staff doesn't think they're going to haul in Browne or Olson. Bateman I could maybe see, but doubt that one too. That would be an absurd recruiting coup if they managed that at this juncture of the program.
I've noticed the athletic QB thing too. I wonder if the staff has a dream of being a little more creative offensively than your typical pro-style system? And if there is a raw/athletic QB that will take time to develop into a successful passer, this is the year to do it because (hopefully) this year's QB won't have to see the field right away.
Maybe the athletic QB is a safety net of sort. With Rip's name coming up more frequently for jobs in the pro's, it might make sense to recruit someone who more than just a pure passer, someone who would be better able to adapt to a different coaching style/philosophy if a change took place.
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I don't consider this "debbie downism" at all as I agree that it would be pretty outstanding for us to land these guys, particularly Browne. Just tossing out possibilities. As for the athletic QB thing, the success of a guy like Cam Newton in the pro game and guys like RG3 in college probably has a lot of offensive coordinators scrambling to see if they can find the next one.
Browne is probably the longest of long shots. Looks to be a Stanford/USC battle.
Having a athletic QB though like Wilson at Wisconsin adds a nice element to the offense though which is nice.
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Considering that EB and Embo saw Wisconsin as kind of a blueprint for the pro style at the college level, there's a chance that Russell Wilson's season made them more interested in dual-threat QBs. Primary job qualification will always be throwing from the pocket, though.
BB is of course correct in that we really need a QB every year, but we have a tight lid on numbers this year and I think we may end up as a stretch for any of the upper tiers. Next year's starter will only be a SO and should start thru 2014. You then have Dillon behind them, who will redshirt.
You can skip 2013 and bring in an early enrollee in 2014 for spring ball (many QB's doing this these days) and he will have a full year to run scout team in 2014 and be ready in his 2nd spring (2015) to compete with Dillon. This works almost as well if he isn't an early enrollee.
Selling the 1st tier of Pro-Style QBs right now is like selling PowerPoint. If Wood has a good year, it will get easier during the season. But top kids are still wary of coming in when the starter is just a SOPH.
Unless we can pull someone they REALLY believe in, I think they will wait a year
I definitely understand what you're saying, but what if Dillon doesn't become what we think he's going to be? What if he gets homesick and transfers after a year? I just worry that not taking a QB this year causes us to put all of our cards in Wood/Dillon working out as we all hope they do.
I mean, we might be between a rock and a hard place because of the low #s of schollies available this year, but it just sucks to take risks when it comes to the QB position. It's also a nice year to go after a QB on the west coast because UCLA already locked theirs up for the cycle and he's from Georgia. UW probably isn't going to take one and there's quite a few good looking prospects out west this cycle.
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