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2 pt. conversion question

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by 13Buff, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. 13Buff

    13Buff Club Member Club Member

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    How is eligibility of a receiver determined? Deehan was the Center for that play and was also the one that caught the pass.

    I know this is probably a stupid question. I have been a huge CU Fan my entire life but have never played a down of organized football.
     
  2. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    It's not a stupid question at all. I wondered the same thing.
     
  3. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    This was from wiki:

    If Deehan wasn't covered by another player and was the end person on the right side (even though he snapped the ball), I guess that means he's eligible. I didn't know that.
     
  4. wsp4820

    wsp4820 Sally Club Member Junta Member

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    Wasn't there someone to his right and to his left? Maybe the guy on the right was not considered on the LOS. You have to have at least 5 or 6 on the LOS to run a play, right?
     
  5. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

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    Where can I see this play? I don't think they caught it on the tube.
     
  6. leftybuff

    leftybuff Iconoclast Club Member

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    Deehan is wearing an eligible number (#34).
     
  7. FrankRizzo

    FrankRizzo Active Member

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    Trick question: Cody Hawkins does not have ineligible receivers.
     
  8. 13Buff

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    I'm watching the game on DVR right now and they show it very quickly in one of the replays.
     
  9. NW Buff

    NW Buff Club Member Club Member

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    Actually, I'm pretty sure you have to have 7 on the line (TE/WR - T - G - C - G - T - TE/WR). The last guy on the line is eligible. I haven't looked at the play again but I believe there was somebody outside Deehan on the side but that player was in the backfield.
     
  10. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    This may be the only time I do this in 2010... but nice job by Riddle. That was a creative play design and it worked.
     
  11. 13Buff

    13Buff Club Member Club Member

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    How'd that taste coming out of your mouth? just reading it made me throw up in my mouth a little.
     
  12. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    FSN bungled the coverage on the play pretty badly. they didn't even try and show a replay (!) it was so bad. instead, they showed UGA's previous TD (?) when they came back from commercial. pretty sad.
     
  13. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Yeah. I feel unclean.
     
  14. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    First off, it was a monumentally stupid play call. Never EVER do that in the third quarter. Just plain stupid. Figure that if they somehow miss that, the game is tied and we're playing an OT game. I swear that Hawkins has GOT to be the most incompetent head coach alive.

    Second, so long as the player isn't "covered" and there are seven men on the line of scrimmage, he's eligible. The way the refs check to see if there are enough guys on the line of scrimmage is to count the number of guys in the backfield.
     
  15. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    also, on stuff like this, it's generally a good idea to talk to the ref before the game about what you might do. we used run all kinds of goofball stuff on JV to sort of practice that stuff to give coaches a live look at the weird trickeration they would draw up. Also, since all the good JV age players were on varsity...we were pretty average. coaches would always before every game show the refs 2-3 wacko things we might do. i know JV is not "not intramurals", btw. but, sometimes we wonder....we did have good coaches.
     
  16. InTheBuff

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    creative play for sure... should have never been called though
     
  17. NashBuff

    NashBuff CSU Knob-Slobberer

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    It worked...get over it.
     
  18. InTheBuff

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    no- it freaking Playstation football....
    stupid coaching...that extra point did CU NO GOOD .... dumb, dumb time in the game to go for 2
     
  19. 13Buff

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    I had a feeling this thread would turn into a "That play was stupid" conversation, at least I got my answer before it turned into that.

    (Was completely stupid but it worked so.. I'm pissed at the call but turn out not to hurt)
     
  20. leftybuff

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    It was aweird time to call for going for two, stupid? I dunno. I had a HS coach I played for who went for two every time, without fail, after the first TD. It didn't matter if the first TD came in the first minute of the first Q or late in the fourth. We OL just knew, we were going for it, and we were running it. I can't remember a time it didn't work, eventually you get used to the score progression of 8, 15, 22 etc.
     
  21. The Guest

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    It was Saban wasn't it? No? Not Saban? Ummmmm, was it Shanahan? No, not Shanny either? What do you mean he never advanced above the HS level of coaching football. That seems strange to me.
     
  22. leftybuff

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    LOL, I never said it was a good strategy, just saying what happend. I moved between my Soph and Junior year and my HS coach my last two years was a Don James guy having played for DJ at UW. He always kicked and being on the FG/XP unit was a new one on me....
     
  23. NW Buff

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    Still think the dumber move was not to go for two after the next TD. Being ahead by 4 or 5 was pointless. Being ahead by 6 would have made the last few minutes less stressful. Of course, they'd already used their trick play up, so it might have been much more difficult to get it the second time.
     
  24. BuffsNYC

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    Back to the original question--did CU line up in a traditional formation and then shift to the unbalanced line? FSN didn't show the whole play. Anyone who was at Folsom recall?

    I remember that Slick did the same thing against a ranked A&M team in Folsom years ago. A&M was forced to call a timeout after the shift. Slick then kicked the extra point. Slick, being who he is, said that he didn't even have a play to run out of the formation, but later conceded that they had several plays they could have run.

    I assume most coaches call that play to get the other team to burn a TO, but if they don't you might as well run the play on the assumption that the defense has no idea how to defend it.
     
  25. Tytechortz

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    It was a fine call. Georgia wasn't even close to stopping it.
     
  26. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    No, but passes can be dropped, the ball can slip on the throw, a finger can deflect the ball, etc. A lot of things can go wrong and if they do, you are ****ing yourself in a bad way.
     
  27. HotRack

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    With the whole line lined up to the left side, it looked like the center pass play I run with my kids in 5-on-5 flag football. Nice to know that Riddle has the basics of flag football down pat!

    Trying to help you get that bad taste out of your mouth, 'Nik! :lol:
     
  28. HawtWf

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    Just getting ready t o ask if this was the play that they lined up shifted way left? I think it was, but it happened in a hurry.
     
  29. 13Buff

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    Lined up in the "Swinging Gate" Formation from the start.
     
  30. BuffsNYC

    BuffsNYC Uptown Club Member

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    Thanks. Does anyone know if Goodman was on the field? Could Cody have called off the 2 pt. conversion and kicked the extra point if he didn't have a play?
     

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