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2014 NCAAMB Rankings

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Shldr2Shldr, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    Preseason Coaches Poll (1st place votes) (Bolded Opponents)

    1 Kentucky (24)
    2 UofA (3)
    3 Duke (2)
    4 Wiscy (3)
    5 Kansas
    6 UNC
    7 Florida
    8 UVa
    9 Louisville
    10 UT
    11 Wichita State
    12 Villanova
    13 Gonzaga
    14 ISU
    15 UConn
    16 VCU
    17 SDSU
    18 Mich St.
    19 Oklahoma
    20 OSU
    21 Nebraska
    22 SMU
    23 Mich
    24 Syracuse
    25 Iowa

    Receiving votes: Harvard 47, Stanford 47, KSU 37, Pitt 36, Utah 26, Memphis 25, Minnesota 18, UCLA 15, UNM 11, Oregon 9, Louisiana Tech 8, COLORADO 8, Ark 8, Dayton 6, Providence 5, ND 5, UMass 4, Georgetown 4, Illinois 4, Texas El-Paso 4, FSU 3, Baylor 2, George Washington 1, Miami 1, Toledo 1, Saint Mary's 1.

    I don't like these rankings. At all.
     
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  2. SECOBuffsFan

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    Coaches should not vote......Oregon getting any votes....really? And more than Colorado? Come on

     
  3. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Disrespected
     
  4. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    good. I love it. Make um earn it.
     
  5. Shldr2Shldr

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    I am fine with making them earn it, but Nebraska #21? Behind Oregon and Utah? Tied with Louisiana Tech?
     
  6. Darth Snow

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    I repeat: Good.
     
  7. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    I wonder if the last game CU played is factoring into their choices, here.
     
  8. Gary Indiana

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    I hope Ski and Jelly are looking at these rankings.
     
  9. jgisland

    jgisland Club Member Club Member

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    Or maybe all of the games after SD went down where they went 9-10 with the same roster returning.
     
  10. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    A team I think is ridiculously low is SDSU.

    That's a Top 10 team, not a #17.

    Edit: I'd flip them with Florida, which lost 4 starters from last year's team and should not be at #7.
     
  11. CVilleBuff

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    Should be higher than mid-tier receiving votes. Oregon receiving more votes says it all, really. It's fun to be ranked, so ****ing win and make it happen.
     
  12. sackman

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    That's also a possibility, although it seems a little hypocritical to me. Most of the time, when you return five starters and the first three guys off the bench, that is a good thing, regardless of the record of those players. Plus, there was a noticable slump after SD went down that took a solid three weeks to get over. They had to learn how to play without Spencer. That took some time. I would actually postulate that his injury will help this years' team, as it gave a lot of those guys some solid game minutes. But whatever. In the end, I still think we're very underrated at this point. I'd put us somewhere in the 16-20 range. But that's just me.
     
  13. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    Basically coaches view the buffs as the 6th best team in the Pac-12.
     
  14. BehindEnemyLines

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    Good! Let the team approach this season with a chip on the shoulder. One the size of a railroad tie.
     
  15. BuffG

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    Not a coach's job to follow every team in the country. They should only poll their conferences.
     
  16. wyobuff

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    Who even voted for oregon? Do they even have enough guys to field a team this year?
     
  17. Buffalo Brad

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    Love this and the team will notice. Motivation. Let the team take care of it with their play
     
  18. jsmilkst

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    Only on visitation day...
     
  19. jgisland

    jgisland Club Member Club Member

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    I do agree in theory - [MENTION=6462]pachoops[/MENTION] and I have had this conversation over and over. Dan Hanner in an article about Arizona had an interesting comment on this. "Second, chemistry matters for an offense. Returning minutes are a little overrated, but teams with a lot of returning minutes do tend to improve on offense on average."

    It'll be interesting how they do progress this year, the learning to play w/out SD will most likely help this year, but this is still a team that was under .500 w/out him. Incremental improvement may only get them to a 65/70%ish of wins, which isn't bad by any means, but will likely disappoint a lot around here.
     
  20. jgisland

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    the Oregon thing is baffling - coaches either have a lot of faith in Joseph Young, Dana Altman or have no clue.
     
  21. Darth Snow

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    Just to play devil's advocate here, but if you take out the adjustment period (and there WAS an adjustment period) the team was well over .500 w/o the Mayor despite having to face a lot of tough games in tournament situations.
     
  22. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Coaches remember what teams advanced in the Dance, which coaches always win 25+ games, and who they voted for a lot last year.

    I don't think for a second that any coach in the east who doesn't have Oregon on his schedule has any clue what the roster turnover was from last year.
     
  23. jgisland

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    Fair - you can basically say they didn't have any bad losses or any good wins w/out SD though. Take out the first 3 games as adjustment and the P12 & NCAA tourney and they still go 6-6.
     
  24. CVilleBuff

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    I don't follow Iowa closely but they completely collapsed and still got ranked.
     
  25. Darth Snow

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    I didn't mean to suggest taking out the tourney situations. I was just saying that the team didn't discover its post Mayor identity and that the adjustment period shouldn't be held against it.

    And yea, I agree, this team does have a low ceiling unless somebody blows up or everyone takes a solid step forward. It also, however, should have a pretty high floor.
     
  26. 89BUFF89

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    Pre-season polls = meh
     
  27. jgisland

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    this is exactly where I am - the breakout candidates are there though.
     
  28. BuffG

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    The W at Stanford wasn't a good win in your mind? Also, a W over Utah. They're both being rated as top 4 teams this year. Went 9-3 against P12 teams not named UA/UCLA.

    This was the youngest team in the tournament outside of KU. I don't see how what they did w/o SD can be taken as anything but a positive overall.
     
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  29. jgisland

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    Stanford win was a good one, road conf wins are always good but outside of getting hot and winning a couple of games in the tournament they weren't a great team last year and the Utah game at home when you're favored was a game everybody thought they should win, so why it was a nice I don't call that a great win.

    i'm not disparanging anything they did w/out SD as not being good, clearly my expectations of this years team don't match up with what a lot of others feel and that's fine - I hope I am wrong.
     
  30. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Basically, the Buffs are ranked at #37 heading into this season.

    Considering that we've got a year in this program where someone could see a lot of spread between this squad's floor and ceiling, I'm kind of looking at it as a general barometer of how the program is seen nationally. Top 40 program.
     

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