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AJ clinics the Riddler, and allbuffs talks kickers

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by The Guest, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. The Guest

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    I'm excited by this commit, but am going to contain it until Alferd tells me what to think (as always with kicking related issues).

    Alferd?
     
  2. Sexton Hardcastle

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    I'm not even going to watch his videos, awaiting analysis from AJ.
     
  4. sackman

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    Having a kicker that you can depend on from 35 and in makes a world of difference. Your options are so much better. Touchbacks are important, too. Since Mason graduated, we've been struggling in special teams. A lot of that had to do with Hawk's inability to appreciate how important special teams is to the overall game.
     
  5. MtnBuff

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    FIFY:nod:
     
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    Well, OK. Whatever. My point is that Hawk ignored special teams. He was incompetent in the other phases of the game, but he didn't even try with special teams. Telling us that Riddle would "clinic" other special teams coaches is just absurd. It proves that Hawk didn't give a damn.
     
  7. MtnBuff

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    Actually agree with you fully, statistics don't always tell the whole story but under Hawk CU was consistently the worst or close to the worst in the Big XII in almost every special teams catagory. This included KO returns and KO returns against, punt returns and punt returns against resulting in big yardage deficits that had to be overcome every game. It also included an inability to hit a field goal from more than 40 when the game was close and a whole bunch of other areas that all made winning a tougher issue.

    Hawk was so busy trying to prove to everyone that he could do it "his way" that the team failed in almost every area of the game, hence my correction.

    Of the three areas of the game, offense, defense, special teams, history has shown that special teams is the area that can be turned around the fastest by new coaching staffs. Let's hope that this is an indication that Embree is going to make turning special team around a priority since if he does it will mean results on the scoreboard.
     
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    What are you talking about? We had the best special teams coach in the country that could clinic any other coach or fan in the country. We are gonna miss him dearly.:thumbsup:
     
  9. AlferdJasper

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    Sorry, but I can't resist this reminder ...

    [FONT=Cambria, serif]he never missed a field goal under 40 yards in his career.


    [/FONT]Oh, that's right. He's our punter.

    Again, the fact that Embree and Brookhart are on the ball (no pun intended) and got a good kicker/punter combo guy to commit is allsome.

    We needed the depth, the competition and the leg. Special teams is a big question mark, especially kicking, since nobody on the roster has college game experience, so adding another option - a good option - is a huge relief.
     
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    Hawkins was rightly criticized for awarding a scholarship to a walk-on kicker for making a SINGLE 21-yard field goal against West VA. After that point, he dug his heels in and refused to consider anyone else as kicker, as he was too busy "proving" his decision was right. Even though the kicker missed his next 8 attempts. Hawkins NEVER lost confidence in his guy. Never.
     
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    I think Hawk was invested in protecting Riddle and was willing to say virtually anything, true or not, to cover his buddy. He did give a damn, just not about CU or CU FB. His agenda was his paycheck, his family/friends and his buddies...in that order.
     
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    fify
     
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    Does he have a hot twin sister?
     
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    Something interesting I heard this morning - the local sports talk guys were talking about Oliver's commitment. One of the hosts is a Wyoming guy who spent some time working with the Wyoming ath. dept. a few years back, and seems to be a little bit tied in up there. He was laughing at CU for handing the PK job after Crosby graduated to a guy who was CUT (his word and emphasis) by Wyoming. I never heard the story of why Goodman left up there, but I guess I always assumed it was his choice. If not, ouch....
     
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    Wyoming fans were not sad when Goodman left. He missed an XP in an OT game against Virginia to lose that game and ended up only making about 60% of his FGs that year.
     
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    Why does Alferd know so much about kickers?
     
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    How well does he do when being tickled?
     
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    I had completely forgotten about that crap. Riddle really was a genius when you think about it.
     
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    Wait... What? Can you fill those of us in who missed this story. Sounds like another Hawk era gem.
     
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    Is that what she said?
     
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    http://www.buffzone.com/ci_15925867

     
  22. AlferdJasper

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    Recruit thread, DBT. You've been warned.




    (Did I sound all important and moderator-ish? I sure hope so!)
     
  23. Buffnik

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    I was impressed. I'll definitely be on my best behavior today.

    AJ - what were your major criticisms for how Hawkins/Riddle handled our kickers and punters? Do you think that we can count on improvement with different coaching methodology?
     
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    I was thinking of starting a new thread with general special teams comments. Have to finish a report first (as in, pay the bills) but let's start a conversation about it. There are quite a few quotes out there about what was unusual about the coaching interaction, maybe we can piece together if this was a coaching problem or a talent problem, or a combination.
     
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    Great idea. I look forward to it. Let me know if there's anything I can help you search for.
     
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    EB has been heavily involved in NFL level special teams coaching after making a career as an NFL player as a special teamer. Embree as well was a participant on multiple specials when he was in the league.

    I have a pretty good feeling that these guys know what they want out of their special teams and what they are looking for in their specialist. This kid puts his KOs into the end zone at sea level and his KOs look to have pretty good height.

    If the kid can kick under pressure and has the leg then the rest should be able to be coached.
     
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    Agreed. However coaching special teams is different from kicking and punting. I agree that special teams will get better, however we need the kicker and punter to help those teams. Do we have kickers and punters to help the special teams?
     
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    Thank you John Madden.
     
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    BOOM!!:lol:
     

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