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Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by cu2x, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. cu2x

    cu2x Club Member Club Member

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  2. XIIfan

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    Nice to hear that someone is stepping up in the running game. On a much more bleak note, how much longer is the O-line going to struggle with pre-snap penalties? This has been a weak spot for several years running.
     
  3. InTheBuff

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    sounds like the O line was playing well in the scrum..
     
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    The sad thing is the pre-snap penalties are all on the players. Its a focus and discipline thing. The coaches can drill and drill and drill the same message into their skulls but at the end of the day, if they aren't 100% focused the players will make these types of mistakes. I am interested to see if this is a Hawkins hangover type issue, maybe the type of players that were recruited. Will be interesting to see if it changes once Embo gets some OL of his own in there.
     
  5. NW Buff

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    A lot of the OL penalties over the last couple of years are as much to do with simply being out matched. If you are worried about getting beat, you are going to lean early to try and get an advantage. If you are getting beat, you are going to grab them. As long as our OL is consistently getting beat we are going to have false starts and holds.
     
  6. SuperiorBuff

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    :yeahthat:
     
  7. Clean Undies

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    False starts in Buffs version Embree2.0 has nothing to do with juicebox. Nothing.

    If players are making dumb pre-snap penalties, it's a discipline issue. I expect Embree, EB and Marshall to clean that **** up. No excuses for playing sloppy ball with these NFL experienced coaches.
     
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    Pretty encouraging read but didn't give much info. Mainly that we get the offensive scheme now.
     
  9. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    It's this along with not having a leader on the OL who will smack someone in his group for jumping early. We're not nasty enough.
     
  10. buffalo30

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    I'm looking forward to linemen and backs punishing opponents. Running the ball hard for tough yards has been a cornerstone for successful Colorado teams since the days of Dal Ward. All of the winning teams have had a hard-nosed running game. A look back through the history of the program proves it.
    TheBeast4092fcdb8dbe28222a7d01ba345abf3449551ca7.jpg
     
  11. CUAviator

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    Where does Lindsay (5'10", 173lbs) fit in?
     
  12. Shldr2Shldr

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    as a CB
     
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    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    False. According to Adam over at Rivals Lindsay will be a RB in college and was recruited as a RB.

    Lindsay looks like he has the frame to add a good chunk of weight.
     
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    Given that he is only a junior, he has time to add another inch or two and 10-15lbs to his frame. If he can do that and keep his speed he could end up being a very solid RB. Plus EB has been looking for another MJD, maybe EB sees those traits
     
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    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Speed can be improved, not a lot, but a little. I'm curious to see his junior highlights to compare his speed. If he can add 10-15 pounds with gaining a little speed he could be a damn good RB.
     
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    I cant remember where i saw this but I have heard his time on rivals is a bit higher than his fastest time. Now I know 40 times are extremely inconsistent and most time useless, however if he is actually around a 4.4-4.37, he could be a big time weapon for us in the back field. Will have to see what his junior highlights look like
     
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    Dollars to donuts he is not a 4.37-4.4 guy and any times you saw with that were probably horribly handtimed.
     
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    We shall see if he ends up at RB in the end, but it is a good question. We still seem to be finding committee RBs, hopefully a true starter is in the cards for this class.
     
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    Right now it is hard to see where Lindsay fits in other than as someone who the coaches feel can be a real contributor somewhere if not at running back. I know very little about Lindsay at this point and can't really say much if I haven't seen him play.
     
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    They played on some long grass back then.
     
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    The photo is John "The Beast" Bayuk. He played well before I made the team in the 50s. He lived up to his nickname in a game in 1956 when he bit a Missouri player who was poking his eyes in a big pileup. The Missouri player took a big swing at Bayuk after the pileup and the ref gave him a 15 yard penalty. He screamed at the ref, "But he bit me!!" The Buffs went on to beat Clemson in the Orange Bowl. The article I read said Bayuk's great-granddaughter even calls him "Beast." You can probably find the article through google. Hopefully Embree and the coaches are instilling the "Beast" attitude after what the last coach did to the players' mental approach to the game for 5 years.
     
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    I've got to disagree with you on that one. It's all about discipline and coaching. KSU has always been one of the least penalized teams under Sydner. I don't think talent wise they have a lot more than CU, but he always has very disciplined players. They don't beat themselves with penalties. I have more confidence in this coaching staff, and believe that once Embree gets his own players these things will improve. It's one of the little things Hawkins was working on.
    http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/downs/sort/totalPenalties
     
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    It's a bit of both. KSjU has more talent than we do as well.
     

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