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Artis vs Wallace

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Recruiting Central' started by Goose, Oct 6, 2011.

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Who would you rather have?

  1. Dominic Artis

    17 vote(s)
    34.7%
  2. Tyrone Wallace

    28 vote(s)
    57.1%
  3. Bank the scholarship for 2013

    4 vote(s)
    8.2%
  1. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Two great players, and it looks like CU is going after them both. We know CU is working Wallace hard, and Yung is now reporting that CU is going to try to get Artis. So, the question is, if you had to choose one, which one would you rather have the Buffs get? Why?

    Dominic Artis
    PG, Salesian H.S. (Richmond, CA)
    6'1", 175 lbs.

    More of a pure point. ESPN compares him to Tyus Edney without the ELITE speed that Edney had. Not elite height, but he has long arms and looks young, so he still might have another inch or two to grow still. Great handle, great basketball IQ, but needs to work on his consistency with his outside shot.

    Tyrone Wallace
    PG, Bakersfield H.S. (Bakersfield, CA)
    6'4", 180 lbs.

    Been compared here on AllBuffs to Alec Burks. Big PG, and in fact is more of a combo guard. Can score, but not quite the pure point that Artis is. Versatile and can be used many ways, and his defense has been praised. Known for his work ethic. Does need to work on his outside shot though.

    So which one is it?
     
  2. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Gimme the Pure Point. Love TW, but he looks to be more of a wing/SG than a pure PG. A true PG makes everyone on the team better.
     
  3. buff4bcs1985

    buff4bcs1985 Hail to the King

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    both
     
  4. BuffaloSoldier76

    BuffaloSoldier76 Unsound Meat Club Member

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    Make mine Wallace. We already have more of a pure point on campus in Dinwiddie. I'd prefer bringing in a combo guard if we already have someone who can run the offense and pass the ball. The scoring potential and size that Wallace brings to the table make him the more interesting recruit of the two IMHO.
     
  5. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Not an option.
     
  6. btbuff

    btbuff It's an inside joke Club Member

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    Whoever said Bank the schollie? What is your reasoning? These are both very highly rated prospects. I say take whichever we can get our hands on. Success will bring success.
    I said Wallace for the versatility, but I feel very good about either.
     
  7. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    That was me, and it had nothing to do with either one of these guys, other than the fact that they aren't likely to grow another 8 inches. I just want us to get some size, so as great as it would be getting either one of these guys, I was really voting for using the schollie for a big man, this year or next.
     
  8. Hoops Fan

    Hoops Fan Club Member Club Member

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    I am betting on Wallace ... Boyle has been working on landing him for some time. I think that Boyle has probably told him that he is his number 1 candidate and really wants him. I don't think that Boyle will be inconsistent and go back on his word now. Besides, we have a great pure point freshman candidate now in Dinwiiddie. There is time to get another outstanding point in the next four years, while he is here. I hope that we can land Wallace as I figure UCLA is probable to jump in on him.
     
  9. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    oh, we are taking whoever commits first. Not a question.
     
  10. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Bank it so we can use it on a 5* next year:smokin:
     
  11. buffted

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    with the possibility of us recruiting artis, maybe it will get TW to commit soon considering we'll probably only take one more for this year.
     
  12. RK

    RK UBL Club Member

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    I've fallen for Wallace in the last few weeks I cant go against him now.
     
  13. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I kind of like the idea of the high energy pure PG to come into games and push pace.

    Then again, I like the idea of a bigger guard who could play PG, SG or Wing in Boyle's system.

    Either Artis or Wallace would make us better.

    One thing I'm sure of is that we need more players to join Jay Humphries in CU's 500 Assist Club if we're going to get this program where we want it to go. College basketball, especially the NCAA tourney, is dominated by guard play.
     
  14. buff4bcs1985

    buff4bcs1985 Hail to the King

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    this is the biggest truth in college basketball
     
  15. SECOBuffsFan

    SECOBuffsFan Active Member

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    I voted Wallace because CU has the more pure point guard in Dinwiddie and I also like the idea of having 2 6'4 guards playing together. Makes the team more versatile.
     
  16. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I have to say that I'm honestly stunned at the results so far. I love Wallace, but this was an easy one for me. First off, I LOVE PG's. If you can get PG's who are bigger (Dinwiddie) it opens up so many options. Plus, a PG who can find open players will make everyone better. Artis is considered by some to be one of the top (if not the top) PG in the West. Everyone keeps mentioning Dinwiddie, but we're pretty thin at the point other than him. Next year we'll have him and Shannon (and Booker if you consider him a point, which I personally am not convinced of) and that's it. While Wallace can play the point, I ultimately think he'll be more of a swingman when it's all said & done.

    I don't think we're going to be upset either way, and the other one will probably be a thorn in our side for years to come, but my personal vote was for Artis.
     
  17. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    BTW, Teets mentioned this in the Artis thread, but how freakin' amazing is it that we're actually debating which top 100 guard we would rather have?!? Not "can you imagine if we can land one of them?" but "which one would you prefer?".

    This staff is amazing.
     
  18. RumblinBuff

    RumblinBuff That one blogging guy Club Member

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    Yep, I just love the question.
     
  19. chitownbuff

    chitownbuff Club Member Club Member

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    What can I say goose, you made me want Wallace and I'm a loyal guy. Stop toying with my emotions.
     
  20. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I'm a heartless bastard.

    Seriously, Wallace is an amazing player and I think he's going to be great. And I honestly don't think you can go wrong with either player. It just comes down to which one fits our roster better. Personally, and I'm biased towards pure points, I think Artis fits better. But seriously, if we're lucky enough to get either of them, we need to be thrilled.
     
  21. BeBe

    BeBe Club Member Club Member

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    Well, I picked Artis, given the 3 choices available. And that's based on the "he'd make everyone around him better" scenario. But my REAL answer ..... either one of them would be freaking awesome!
     
  22. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

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  23. COhoops

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    Artis. Team's don't go deep without a true point guard.

    I will say that Wallace is very intriguing and reminds me of Burks, but there is already a great scoring 2/3 in this class...
     
  24. dyemeduke

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    I hate to say it...and I find it odd that I am...but I'd bank it. Honestly, I'd take one of these guys over one of our current commitments (not saying who), but whatever - he's already committed...it's a moot point.We have four guys committed. Two wings, and two "skinny" bigs. We could use a solid BIG, and since it seems like we're out of it this year, bank it for next season. I'm not saying I want a Shaq type of big (although I'd take a Shaq talent of course), but a solid, beefy, muscular big to run, play interior defense and grab some boards would be nice. It'd help us out a lot in my opinion.Yes, we are thin at PG, because we've missed on some kids. Tomlinson is just not that great...serviceable, but not going to take us to the next level. Sharpe - world's of athleticism, but overall game isn't coming together. Dinwiddie, yes, we're all hopeful, and Booker, I agree with Goose that he doesn't sound like a real 1. So, we could use one, and I'm not AGAINST us taking another PG. I'd vote Wallace, because I like matchup problems he could present, as well as the versatility of lineups.My top choice though is save it for next season. Class balance is really nice. Five guys is a lot for any school, but the elite programs can get away with it. Usually one or two kids either declare or transfer. For CU, all of our players seem like 4 year players (yes, including Dre in my opinion), with the exception possibly being X if he lives up to hype his first season.
     
  25. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    I would take either one of these guys in a second.
     
  26. JRK

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    The three people who voted to bank the scholly should be shot, as should Goose for even making that an option in the poll. There is absolutley no reason for us to turn away elite prospects. I saw Junction's and Dyemeduke's reasoning and I'm not even going to dignify that crap "logic" with a response.

    Too harsh? I'll stop being an asshole when people stop writing stupid sh*t.
     
  27. azbuff

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    Guh. Anyone else have the sneaking suspicion that JRK is 400lbs and living in his Mom's basement? The schtick gets old, ask Jay Mariotti.
     
  28. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    I'm going to neg rep you for saying stupid **** while complaining about people saying stupid ****. Too harsh? I will never stop being an asshole and will ridicule people for saying any ****, regardless of whether it is stupid or not.
     
  29. PuebloBuff

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    I hear where folks are coming from about banking it, but I'm tempted by Artis because I'm afraid we may limit our ability to pressure the point by stockpiling bigger guards. I think good ball pressure can really add to the up-tempo pace we emphasize, especially at the keg. Much of my thinking though is based on the assumption that Dinwiddie may have trouble matching up on D with a true #1. If the coaches think he can handle it than I think we should go ahead and add a big guard for the advantages they provide when we've got the ball, whether that's Wallace or someone else in the next cycle.
     
  30. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Despite JRK's eloquent response to the banking it strategy, I do see the appeal of it. I've been a big fan of having our 2013 class be a "whale" (one of the 5*'s we're in on) and Jordan Scott. I also understand the need for more size. That said, we're not Duke or Carolina. We can't turn away talented players like Artis or Wallace just because there's a chance we can get someone who might be better next year.
     

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