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Askia Booker or Levi Knutson

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Buffnik, Mar 4, 2015.

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Better Senior Guard

  1. Askia Booker

    74.1%
  2. Levi Knutson

    25.9%
  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Who was the better senior guard for CU basketball?
     
  2. Yung Buffalo

    Yung Buffalo Club Member Club Member

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    Knutson was a very integral part to a successful team and played a big part in a lot of important games. He was a key piece of a pure team game, and often pushed the team over the hump in close games.

    Booker was the team this year though. The team was obviously not nearly as successful but Ski was a better player and much more important to the team than Levi was.


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  3. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    Booker
     
  4. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

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    ski
     
  5. Jens1893

    Jens1893 Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Eli Stalzer
     
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    Ski had 43 in a game.
     
  8. Gramburglar

    Gramburglar Literally has hundreds of dollars Club Member

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    Ski, hands down. Levi was a great part of core players which achieved something special.
     
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  9. Liver

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  10. wyobuff

    wyobuff Well-Known Member

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    Askia did not have near the supporting cast that levi did in terms of working together. My vote is for ski.
     
  11. TDforTD

    TDforTD Banned BANNED Club Member

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    I'm not really sure how you can vote Levi. He's a complementary scorer who creates floor spacing, scores without the ball in his hands, and hits his FTs. But if he's your first, second, or even third scoring option, your team is probably in some trouble. He fit perfectly with our incredible slashing/handles team of Burks, Higgins, and Relphorde.

    Booker shouldn't ever be the number one option on a team because of his size, but if you pair him with a tall backcourt mate who can handle the basketball, he's a great second scorer who can get tough baskets when shots aren't falling. He just needs to be paired with someone like Dinwiddie and if you have a great post presence, he will be a major cog on a winning team.
     
  12. aghcsm

    aghcsm Well-Known Member

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    Ski was 'the team' because he had to be. Nobody else could / would step up, especially when XJ and Scott were out with injuries. Good job in a difficult role, often having to take less-than-ideal shots.
     
  13. BuffG

    BuffG Well-Known Member

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    Levi was the Big XII 6th Man of The Year, 6th in the country in offensive rating (131.2), 10th in eFG% (63.6), 14th in TS% (65.9), & 37th in TO rate (10.8).
    You could easily argue that Levi was the best D1 shooter in 2010-11. He was an elite offensive piece.

    Ski had his best season & finally became somewhat efficient but you can't say he was elite in any category except for number of shots taken. There's a bunch of players in D1 who would have better counting stats than Ski if they were taking 37% of their team's shots. Without him, we probably only win like 5 games this year but it would've forced the guys we need to develop to do more, um, developing.

    I look at it like this--- are you going to remember Ski for his Charleston Classic MVP, KU Euro step, brilliance as a 6th man for the P12 title or are you going to remember him for his best AI rendition on a bad team? Alternatively, does anyone even recall Levi's first 3 years at CU?
     
  14. GoonieBuff

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    Really a question? Ski, and I'm surprised how many voted for Levi. Levi was good, but he's no Ski.
     
  15. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    Well, ****. I meant to vote for Ski, but clicked the wrong one. My Moderator powers don't allow me to change poll votes, so can a real Mod change mine so I can not be embarrassed here?
     
  16. Scotch

    Scotch Registered User Club Member Junta Member

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    Nope. We're keeping it as is you damn Ski Hater!!!!
     
  17. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    Glad people came to their senses here, although 25% of you are dumbasses
     
  18. pwbuffan

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    No doubt it is Ski
     
  19. DiggerBuffs

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    The better question is Higgins or Ski? That would allow a better argument.
     
  20. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I wasn't looking for a reasonable debate. I was looking for a revealing one.
     
  21. DiggerBuffs

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    LOL, you were trying to see who would hate on Ski that much. I have my issues with Ski as a player, but he is better than Knutson by a great deal.
     
  22. BuffG

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    Now that Tad has said this was Ski's decision, wonder if anyone would change their mind on this one?
     
  23. Buffalo Brad

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    Cannot imagine how bad the team this year would have been without Ski. Imagine that for a while if you voted Levi. Levi was a cog in a bigger machine. Ski was a huge cog in a little machine
     
  24. BuffG

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    Booker's Senior Yr Win Shares: 3.6

    Levi's Senior Yr Win Shares: 4.0

    According to sports-reference http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/askia-booker-1.html#all_players_totals

    This team was going to be bad regardless but Ski stunted other players' opportunities to grow. He was a more valuable player than Levi for his first 3 seasons, but a lot of you are too blind to see that stats & being a valuable TEAM player all point to Levi being the better senior guard.
     
  25. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Now Ski stunted growth? :bang: I'll wait for the obligatory "he shoots it too damn much!"

    Oh, and if you normalize the win shares to win shares/40 minutes, they are almost identical...1.53 vs 1.56
     
  26. ahoelsken

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    Better player? Ski by far. Better Senior leader? Levi.
     
  27. BuffinCali

    BuffinCali Well-Known Member

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    Levi

    Levi was a better leader and made players around him better. He was a true PG and very efficient shooter.

    Ski is a scorer. Volume shooter, who scored significantly more than Levi.


    However, more points scored does not equate to being a better player, just a better scorer. The original question was Ski or Levi. I would say, it depends on what you need. If you are in need of a scoring PG, Ski's your man. If you want a leader, head up PG who improves team play and is efficient, Levi no doubt. There are needs for both type of players
     
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    Player A - 7.0 Assist Rate
    Player B - 26.8 Assist Rate

    Who is who?
     
  29. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Are you talking about Nate?
     
  30. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I think he's talking about Nate. All white guys look the same.
     

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