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At least CSU won't be running the double eagle bear. 4-1-6 in 3rd and longs

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  1. Tractor

    Tractor Club Member Club Member

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  2. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    Sounds gimmicky for a regular defense. I guess is makes sense on 3rd and very long, but maybe offenses can just use TE or 2 to gain a few yards on the pass, then enough yards after the catch to get the 1st.
     
  3. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    1-5-5 is the way to go.
     
  4. mdelpizzo_1

    mdelpizzo_1 My Dixie Wrecked Club Member

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    Did they not watch Hawk and his gimmicks to learn gimmicks are just that, gimmicks. Good for them, I can't wait until we run a draw play on 3rd and 8 and pick up a first down on them.
     
  5. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    In other words, they have one DT and one LB that they think are worth a ****.
     
  6. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Umm... Morons, this is a dime package. Way to catch up to 40 years ago csu :lol:
     
  7. BuffsRising

    BuffsRising Well-Known Member

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    Why would you run anything BUT a 4-1-6 on 3rd and long? Were they trying to cover a 4 WR offense with linebackers? I think Larry Kerr is ready for some warm ovaltine and a nap.

    Next big idea from Larry Kerr: extra linemen on third and short!
     
  8. HotRack

    HotRack Rez BubbleHead Club Member

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    Way to go, CSU - publish your 3rd down defensive strategy for this year to the world! ****tards.
     
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  10. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    Coding fix. Dumbass.
     
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  11. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    C.J. James, who slides into DT for the Rams' "Bandit" defense is about 6'3" and 250lbs. That's Juda Parker's size. Sisson, the only LB on the field, goes 5'11" and 210 lbs. Nordly Capi, the DE they're bringing in, is another 6'3" 250 lb guy. The other DE, Broderick Sargent, goes 6'2" and 235 lbs.

    Here's the personnel for this defense (base defense player replaced in parentheses):

    DE Nordly Capi 6'3" 250 lbs
    DE Broderick Sargent 6'2" 235 lbs
    DT Nuku Latu 6'2" 300 lbs
    DT C.J. James 6'3" 250 lbs (John Froland 6'5" 260 lbs)
    LB Mychal Sisson 5'11" 210 lbs
    CB Shaq Bell 5'11" 185 lbs (LB Mike Orakpo 6'1" 215 lbs)
    CB Marcus Shaw 5'8" 175 lbs (LB James Skelton 6'2" 225 lbs)
    CB Momo Thomas 5'9" 185 lbs
    CB Elijah-Blu Smith 5'11" 195 lbs
    FS Austin Gray 6'3" 210 lbs
    SS Ivory Herd 5'11" 200 lbs

    Even in their base set, it's a very young defense. Latu, Sisson, Smith and Herd are the only seniors. Likewise on offense, it looks like they'll only start 3 seniors: RB Raymond Carter, OG Jake Gdowski, OT Paul Madsen. This team looks like a bigger threat in 2012 than in 2011. They won't have any true DTs, though, as no one on the depth chart besides Latu is even 265 lbs. For comparison, we've got 2 DEs in Kasa and Nembot who are much bigger than any of their DTs.
     
  12. FlaBuff

    FlaBuff I drive a Dodge Stratus! Club Member

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    Capi is fast and strong and plays with a great motor. He is undersized for DE but he will make an impact.
     
  13. Denver_sc

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    This is subterfuge! CSU's planted this article and is going to catch CU off-guard by running a 10-0-1.
     
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    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    I assume this is somewhat different than a traditional dime package... no?
     
  16. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Only from the standpoint of playing a 250lb DE at DT. Otherwise, it's just a Dime.
     
  17. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    No, no NO. It is a BANDIT formation. Very different. :lol:.

    Actually, putting in the DE at DT basically means they are desperate to get a pass rush like Nik is desperate to beat a woman.
     
  18. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Woman or ole-singing drunk, same difference. :lol:
     
  19. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    be interesting to see what a draw play does to this formation.
     
  20. GregInArlington

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    haha how do you stop the slant or run with 1 linebacker? This should be fun!
     
  21. Darian3Hagan

    Darian3Hagan '89 Player of the Year Club Member

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    I'm pretty sure this defense would be useless versus play action on 3rd and long.
     
  22. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    I realize only now that i've been misreading the thread title. I thought the 4 - 1 - 6 WAS the Double Eagle Bear. Duh
     

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