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Attrition, thy name is "CU Buffs 2012 Recruiting Class"

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Buffnik, Dec 19, 2013.

  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Donta Abron
    Kenneth Crawley
    [strike]Terrence Crowder[/strike]
    [strike]Shane Dillon[/strike]
    Jeffrey Hall
    Tyler Hennington
    [strike]Vincent Hobbs[/strike]
    Jeromy Irwin
    Sean Irwin
    [strike]Kisima Jagne[/strike]
    Samson Kafovalu
    Gerrad Kough
    Marques Mosley
    Clay Norgard
    [strike]Davien Payne[/strike]
    Christian Powell
    [strike]Kory Rasmussen[/strike]
    [strike]Austin Ray[/strike]
    Justin Solis
    [strike]John Stuart[/strike]
    [strike]Gerald Thomas[/strike]
    [strike]Jeffrey Thomas[/strike]
    Josh Tupou
    John Walker
    [strike]Peyton Williams[/strike]
    De'Jon Wilson
    Yuri Wright
     
  2. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    it is a good thing we still have Stuart that mother ****er is funny.
     
  3. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    It might be a miracle when we finally exceed 20 guys in a graduating class
     
  4. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Nice catch. Missed one.
     
  5. lawdogg

    lawdogg Club Member Club Member

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    Looking at that list, it isn't a stretch to think a few more of those guys could be on their way out.
     
  6. J.R. Ewing

    J.R. Ewing Club Member Club Member

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    Jeff Thomas?
     
  7. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Not yet.
     
  8. J.R. Ewing

    J.R. Ewing Club Member Club Member

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    My bad, thought I saw him scratched.
     
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  9. Eggon

    Eggon Club Member Club Member

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    Coaching change but wow. Need this to improve longer term under new management.
     
  10. MtnBuff

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    Of all the guys that are gone how many do we really miss.

    I do wish we still had Kisima who I think has the chance to be a fairly decent player. We also could have used Hobbs considering our TE situation although I don't think he would have been anything special.

    Look at a class like that and it might be that M2 did a better job to win 4 this year than we give him credit for.
     
  11. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    god ****ing dammit. Im' turning into a curse.
     
  12. boydbuff

    boydbuff Club Member Club Member

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    White_Rabbit Club Member Club Member

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    Way to jinx it dude! He was totally going to play for us next year until you ruined it. :angry:
     
  14. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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  15. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I guess I'll go ahead and cross JT off since it got tweeted.

    No one should be surprised if this isn't the last of it. There were some really good kids in that class and I liked the talent, but it has become apparent that there were a number of cases where other programs wisely backed off while CU went ahead despite red flags.
     
  16. White_Rabbit

    White_Rabbit Club Member Club Member

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    Our return to Texas in 2012 sure was short lived..
     
  17. BuffG

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    It reminds me of the 2008 class but w/ lower ranked headliners and a little less drama. Same process, same results
     
  18. aik

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    Bobby Kennedy's DFW trio that was going to collectively replace Paul Richardson's production has struck out. Another scholarship we now have.
     
  19. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    Damnit. All that ballot box stuffing was for nothing. I want my 2,100 votes back
     
  20. skinsfan55

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    Damn. I never was as high on Thomas as some people on here but I thought for sure that he'd be in the mix for a lot of playing time. Why did he decide to leave?
     
  21. skinsfan55

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    Oh... his grades are bad. That makes me not as upset that he's leaving. I mean, sure CU is a good academic school but if you can't handle being a student athlete then you don't belong on HCMM's squad. Too bad. I guess we'll see who replaces Richardson from a list of Walker, Dunston, or Bobo
     
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    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    His mom was on the site and we were all rooting for him. We even ballot stuffed some online polls for best receiver and stuff for him. I really wish he could have found a way to make it work.
     
  23. sackman

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    Really hate to see that. The writing has been on the wall for a long time with JT, though.
     
  24. DrunkPanda

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    I really don't understand how student athletes fail out of CU... I mean, it's not like we are Stanford. We DO have some bs majors available if your goal is to just stay academically eligible for football
     
  25. BuffUp

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    Damn shame and I personally am growing tired of so much attrition. There is always attrition when your talking about testosterone filled teenage young men. The coaching changes not helping either, but damn :wow:
     
  26. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    Not giving a **** has a lot to do with it. Be that about academics, or football.
     
  27. J.R. Ewing

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    Mama Thomas is going to be pissed.
     
  28. MtnBuff

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    To start with the academic "burden" on athletes at Stanford isn't comparable to their regular student body either. Both schools, as do all competing at a BCS level have extensive academic resources available to assist any athlete who wants to succeed. There are easier majors at virtually all schools. Bottom line is that most kids with a legitimate HS education should with some effort on their parts be able to at least stay eligible and have a shot at earning a degree at CU and at most schools.

    Usually when kids don't make it they have choosen not to take advantage of the resources available. The don't go to class, to study sessions, to tutoring. They use that resource time for sleep or worse.

    Sometimes this is because they lack discipline, sometimes it is because they don't adapt to a strange environment without their personal support system to keep them in line.

    There are also some kids who even with all the resources are not ready to do even the easiest college level work. Some high schools coddle and enable athletes to keep them eligible to play at that level. Some of these use the excuse that they are "keeping the kid in school" but ignoring the fact that going to school without getting an education is not much better than not going to school at all.

    Many years back when I was coaching at the HS level we had a kid who transfered in from a DPS school. Kid was a phenominal athlete, good enough that Miami (FL) was interested in him. Unfortunately he had done close to zero school work for a few years and while he was intelligent enough he wasn't even close to HS level skills. We ended up finnagling him into a special ed program where he could get some intensive academic work at the level he was at. We were never able to get him to a level where he could qualify for an NCAA scholly which he would have easily gotten based on his athletic ability. He was at least able to go to a JC and finished a trade program.

    The point on this is that had he stayed at his old school they would have figured out a way to "get him through" giving him passing grades. He was intelligent enough that he might even have been coached enough to get a qualifying score on his test and been signed to a solid D1 program. At this point he would have gone to that school and even with all the help ended up failing to keep up enough to maintain eligibility and flunked out.

    I don't have any idea why Jeff or any number of these other guys didn't make it academically but it is a more complex issue often than just "He didn't try." Remember that Okie State gave Dexter Manley a degree and he couldn't read.

    Jeff and his family seem like really nice people. I hope that he can go home, assess where he is at, and then get himself an education and go on to a successful life. I wish that had included some big games as a Buff but I guess it wasn't meant to be.
     
  29. FlatironsBuff

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    I think I hate losing her more than her son. She was pretty cool.
     
  30. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    Not so much.

    Stanford is a very special use case with rampant grade inflation and the ability for even regular students to heavily manipulate their own GPA's by dropping classes very late. They have a significant amount of support for all of their students and very much focus on keeping students in and getting them to graduate. All-in-all what is required of and available to a Stanford athlete is much closer to what is required of their average student just trying to skate by than it is at Cal or Colorado.

    Simply getting in is (as it is for the rest of the student body) the chief challenge.
     

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