Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by cmgoods, Oct 1, 2013.
Not surprising since he is broadcasting there. Probably has better memories there than here.
Not sure if anyone else noticed during the Ohio State broadcast last week, Brent referred to Barnett as the former Northwestern coach, no mention of that other BCS school he coached. That 1995 year for Northwestern was one of the most memorable, hard to top, a team with little history, beating Notre Dame in week 1 then nearly running the tables until the Rose Bowl, when playing in USC backyard had about 80% of the fan support. But what about 2001?
Barnett had a longer history at CU. I think it's probably relevant that he's broadcasting the game there and how his CU tenure ended. Things still haven't been quite the same since the Hugh Charles fumble. I know some older fans are going to cite higher moments than that, but I'd love to get back to playing in bowl games right now.
I watched that. For some reason I was glad that CU wasn't mentioned. It seems like every mention these days is negative.
Northwestern may be "like" home, but he failed to mention that he still lives in Colorado. Still a member of BCC, in fact.
To any outsider, his CU legacy will always be the scandal. His Northwestern one is much better with that 1995 team. I'm not sure they are where they are if not for Barnett. Put it this way, Pat Fitzgerald was a Barnett product.
I think I was one of the few, who was sad to see Barnett go when it happened. I understood the reasons don't get me wrong.
I have heard Gary say some nice things about Colorado as well. At the same time Chrome is correct.
Gary has a right to feel some anger at CU. Bitsy and the adminstration threw him under the bus instead of having the backbone to stand up to that b**** Mary Keenan and the parasites in the media who were feeding off her politically motivated line of lies and distortions.
Unfortunately Gary got the Duke lacrosse treatment and the school let him take the brunt of it not only costing him his ability to compete at CU but making him toxic anywhere else.
It's pretty easy to see how he might be more comfortable at Northeastern still.
One thing I will say is Gary overplayed his hand a bit. He had a deal on the table and turned it down -- not thinking, he'd lost to Iowa State AND get killed by Nebraska and then Texas in the Big 12 title game.
I do think CU is one of the few programs he'd leave Northwestern for. IIRC, he turned down Notre Dame.
I know Gary's been rumored to be a candidate at some places, including CSU when they fired Fairchild. But I'm not sure he's really even had an interview.
7 wins and ranked in the top 25 and then the wheels came off
UNDERSTATEMENT of the Year! No, decade.
But he was getting stale and lazy in Boulder and had an AD (Tharp)who was more interested in his tan and traveling to watch his kids play college sports than in CU winning or in defending his coachs. GB also discovered he liked golf a whole lot more than recruiting and old friends, rather than competent coachs, as coordinators! He also wasted his "bank" with the local media, so that when he stupidly opened his mouth about Hnaida, nobody would defend him.
Shat in his messkit, he did. Big time and CU is the worse for it
Gary threw himself under the bus and CU couldn't save him.
Not sure about his friends as coordinators though.
Mike Handwitz is still doing rather well at Northwestern.
Shawn Watson is doing pretty good at Louisville.
Vince is doing great with the defensive ends at Akron.
Bohn was AD at this point when he was offered the extension.
Saw Shawn Watson was listed as a possible HC candidate at UConn.
Was Barnett the best coach... no. Compared to his successors (and the jury is still out on Mac2), he's much better though.
It is a Chicago story and I am sure he has a lot of fond memories of his time at Northwestern. He also says a lot of good things about CU when he is on the local radio shows.
If that scandal would've come out these days, a smart administration would've fired Barnett so fast his head would spin. Blaming the media is like complaining about the weather. Just expect the worse and don't give them anymore to chew on. Barnett gave them a quote they could hang him by, and they did. He should be happy the 24 sports news cycle wasn't around, he wouldn't have had those 2 extra seasons or a shot at an extension.
ESPN wasn't around back then? You didn't have social media like you do today, that's the major difference.
I've really come to doubt my gut feelings when it comes to CU head coaches.
1. I wanted Skippy after Mac left
2. I was excited about Juice Box
3. I was super excited about WB
And 4, I was happy when Barney was let go.
We haven't been relevant since the scandal, and that probably did make Barney incapable of further success here, but holy **** what we wouldn't give for a division title right now. It's nothing more than mental masturbation to think what would have happened had Barney been here for the move to the Pac, but I bet years one and two wouldn't have been so ****ing disgusting.
It's interesting that he says that about Northwestern, considering I put a lot of the blame for the 'scandal' on Northwestern grads like Adam Schrager piling on Barney, for whom I'm sure it was just coincidental that it was the guy that they were pissed at for leaving them for 'greener pastures'.
Of course, but ESPN was still repeating the late night sportcenters till noon every morning. Now they're live from 8am-Midnight. They absolutely killed the Tebow story over the last few years, think of what they could do with a college rape scandal these days.
Fair point there, I think social media is still the major difference here.
Musburger is a Northwestern grad.
I knew that, hadn't thought about that though.
I thought Barnett had good assistant coaches....look at what Wristen has done at CSU-Pueblo as well as the others mentioned.
I was sad to see Barnett go.
Always liked Barnett. He was a great coach and do not blame him for feeling anger towards the school. He was thrown under the bus and not supported by his bosses. They set him up for failure towards the end of his career at CU. Barnett always had his teams prepared except for maybe a handful of games. I am sure when he looks back, he has better feelings towards northwestern due to he left them (maybe a little guilt?). Would have loved to have seen what he could have done with full support from the administration above him and not forced to have a female kicker on his team and the drama that created.
No offense attended to female kickers.
What scandal are you referring to? You do recall that the football team and Gary were cleared of everything? So you would fire a coach for completely unfounded accusations? The biggest thing he did wrong at the time, was stating that Katie Kunt couldn't kick; which was the only thing accurate about her.
When it's on the nightly news every night, makes the Today Show, 60 minutes, it's a scandal. It doesn't matter that legally everybody was cleared well after it fell out of the media cycle, the damage was done.
And yeah, I would've fired Barnett as soon as that dumbass quote left his lips. He wasn't the only one mishandling the situation, but he poured some gasoline on the fire, and he's supposed to be the face of the program.
GB was not a diplomat, that was his biggest fault. The Knida comment was foolish, but no more than that. He was witch hunted out by an idiot President and her lapdog chancellor in concert with the infotainment hacks who really could care less about accuracy. GB was the best HC since Mac. He was heads and shoulders above DII Danny and Embree. When the admin. cut out all support and imposed those dumbass recruiting restrictions...it was over. CU still hasn't recovered from the incompetence of the gang on the hill.
Think of what CU could have done with a PR strategy back then. The CU "scandal" was really bad timing media wise and college scandal wise. The thing that just happened at Vandy was substantively worse than anything that was proven to have happened at CU from 2001-2004, but there have been so many scandals revealed in the last decade that you barely hear about it.
Would have never been anything near what it turned into if he had an administration that backed him up, instead of throwing him under the bus. You must be a pretty crappy friend if your willing to bail over accusations and hearsay.
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