Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by DavisBuff, Dec 28, 2013.
Instead of Neinas? Why? /sarcasm
It has been said many times, but the odds of HCMM canning someone this year is pretty freaking low. If he were to do so, I think Neinas would be the obvious choice given the underperformance of ST when that was really his own responsibility and also that he would likely have less allegiance to him than others on the staff who came with him from SJSU.
Neinas is great, he found us a kicker in Mexico and a long snapper. No replacement needed imo.
Can the guy recruit? If so, he doesn't belong on this staff. We only want guys who have an eye for recruiting hidden gems.
I didn't realize CU had an opening on the staff.
We're stuck with Neinas for the foreseeable future. He has an awful resume and makes 250k as an ST coach only. Any ST coach worth a damn will see that and demand much more money. Plus even more if he coaches another position.
Do we owe Baxter's dad a favor too?
I was disappointed with the Neinas hire. I have not seen much on special teams or recruiting to make me think he is the best assistant coach we could get. Would like to see us get a st guru or better yet an ace recruiter. Baxter is a well respected st coach and would be an upgrade; but I would be happier with a recruiting ace. Hagan to coach cb la russa to coach special teams and Neinas to switch to an operations position.
Baxter's a highly respected ST Coordinator & recruiter.
That rules CU out. :smile2:
You have to factor in Kiffikins but he was doing not much with a lot at USC the past few years.
He actually was great in 2010 and 2011. Don't know about the last couple years, but dude can flat out coach.
It's hard to believe that MikeMac wouldn't want to upgrade his staff whenever possible. There must be something going on behind the scenes preventing it. Maybe frozen salaries due to general awful financial performance, some favor owed to Neinas Sr. (some kind of twisted thank you for D2), or good assistants unwilling to take a chance on the dumpster fire that is CU.
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This is all just a pipe dream, right? No way does the guy actually come here, does he?
I think it's simply a commitment to the staff he hired to help build this program. I'm not totally sold on Neinas either, but I think it sends a bad message to the rest of your staff if you're always out shopping for some new assistant. Either Neinas deserves to be fired or he doesn't - I don't think you can make coaching decisions based on who might be on the market. If the guy you have isn't doing his job he needs to go whether or not someone like Baxter might hypothetically be an option. It seems Mac wants to ride this staff out for the first few years which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Just so that it is out there, I am pretty sure we have to pay our assistants a higher salary than we would like to because we cannot sign them to multi year contracts.
What has Neinas done that merits all the scorn? I know...."CSEWE, blah, blah blah...OSU blah, blah blah"---both games were instances of experienced ST performers blowing execution. I saw Oliver improving on: KO's, his consistency and staying fresh all year; only one blocked punt and FG; no points taken away by stupid penalties; no fumbled punts; KO return yardage improved on average (even with a "slow" FR returner); decent coverages and he recruited the exican version of Sebastian Janikowski...I'd give him a "B-" overall.
What has he done to deserve a pass? The stats are out there-special teams did not improve this season. In some areas, they got worse. If that merits a "B-" grade, decent grades come pretty cheaply around here these days.
I don't think he deserves a pass, but I also think a lot of those ST stats are skewed because of a couple of very poor games.
add in his terrible recruiting efforts and it becomes pretty clear.
No. Very few pac assistants actually have multi-year deals
It is really hard to get a read on this year unless you go game by game because Cal gave up something like 200 yards in punt returns in 1 game.
Very few Pac programs have had the coaching staff turnover we have had either.
Did Niemas do something so outrageous that cost us games? Were there fundamental coaching flaws that give the staff a reason to fire him? Did he do something so bad that you have to fire him? If not, he deserves the chance to grow and get better as a coach.
Oh so we likely gave him a 200k raise from Montana St because we felt bad? Considering no other bcs program would give Neinas a sniff.
Not because we felt bad. When the **** did I say that?
HCMM wanted him. He likely looked at our coaching history and said "ehhh IDK doesn't seem to secure or safe" and coach said how about 250K and he said ok.
I just don't get the 250K salary for Neinas. If he was hired just as a favor, I could at least understand that way of thinking. The guy should be happy to be coaching in the BCS, why are they overpaying him on top of it? Is he getting paid for coaching the LB's too?
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