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BCS Strips USC of 2004 National Title

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by BuffNut99, Jun 6, 2011.

  1. BuffNut99

    BuffNut99 Club Member Club Member

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  2. JimmyBuff

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    this is lame.
     
  3. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    I didn't know BCS had that kind of power. I'm going to have to be more careful with my omelette pans in the future....
     
  4. DBT

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    But they keep the writer's award (AP) so they can still claim to be MNC's
     
  5. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

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    I think demanding a refund of the $17,000,000 payout would be a much more harsh penalty. And probably get the attention of the cheaters a bit more.

    As it is, they really didn't do anything.
     
  6. Unleash Hell

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    GOOD! Hopefully Auburn is next.

    So does this give Oklahoma it's 8th National Title?
     
  7. 4DemBuffs

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    yeah, right ncaa. we all know who won that game. this is meaningless.
     
  8. SCB

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    I was thinking the exact same thing. :uglyhammer:
     
  9. zbuff

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    Oklahoma wins BCS by a score of 19-55!!
     
  10. buffedup

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    The problem with that is it is distributed to the conference, not the school. They even say in the article that we would have had somebody in the BCS so the payout really doesn't matter.
     
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  11. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    Ahh, love the sweet stench of the meaning of vacated wins. Nobody gets the win. The game basically didn't happen.
     
  12. Unleash Hell

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    so whos the champion?
     
  13. SuperiorBuff

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    Want to bet they still show a MNC in their records?
     
  14. sackman

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    Colorado. duh.


    This discussion brings up a good point, though. What is an appropriate punishment that would actually deter this kind of cheating? Do they need to swing the death penalty stick again?
     
  15. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Yes.
     
  16. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    This.
     
  17. GregInArlington

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    Well, OU woudn't be the champion because they have another loss on their schedule, it would have to go to someone else. I vote Alabama, because according to them they in some way have won the championship every other year since 1900.
     
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    No one - vacated
     
  19. BuffNut99

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    Pat Haden's already said as much. They still have the AP title, which won't be vacated by the AP, even though USC has no wins that year.
     
  20. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

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    I think the time has come for monetary fines. The NCAA's current method of penalizing teams isn't working. Hit them in the pocketbook. I don't have a problem with penalizing the conference -- make each conference another layer of accountability.
     
  21. sackman

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    While I don't necessarily disagree, I think that going after the conferences for monetary damages will only push them closer to leaving the NCAA altogether.
     
  22. CUBUFF80

    CUBUFF80 No Stinkin' Title Club Member

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    And what of Pete Carroll? Oh right, he's making millions with the Seahawks.
     
  23. CarolinaBuff

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    This. This idea of stripping of titles that were won years ago is one of the more ridiculous things I've ever heard of. They won the thing then and there, you can't go back in time.
     
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    i have no problem of the swinging the ban stick by the NCAA. makes for good watching on espn decades later.
     
  25. Maxer

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    Yeah. Cal -- whose only loss that year was to USC. (And then b/c of that loss and Mack Brown's pandering, got screwed out of the Rose Bowl at 10-1 due to a rule that's since been amended). Not that I'm bitter or anything.
     
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    Wait a minute - the BCS vacated the victory, not the NCAA. The AP doesn't have to follow BCS penalties.
     
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    The NCAA already vacated the majority of the games that Bush played in from the moment they can prove his mother and step-dad moved into that house in San Diego.
     
  29. zbuff

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    You're right, I'd never read the infractions. From NCAA.com:
    "The penalties include four years probation; a two-year football postseason ban; a one-year basketball postseason ban; vacation of regular and postseason wins for all three involved sports (football, basketball and women’s tennis); scholarship reductions for football and basketball; and recruiting restrictions for men's basketball."
     
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    More importantly, USC never showed at the 2005 title game in the eyes of the BCS. Therefore that awesome Texas/VY victory is negated. The greatest moment in Texas Football history (and they generally believe that) never happened. Suck it Longhorns!!
     

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