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Big 12 Equal Revenue may be final straw for Oklahoma

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  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    In what many have called a concession by Texas in order to promote Big 12 harmony, it agreed to equal revenue sharing of Tier 1 and Tier 2 media rights among conference members. Texas didn't give up much financially in that deal and figured it would keep the conference together while eliminating the noise surrounding the Longhorn Network.

    But what about Oklahoma? For them, they gave up the same money that UT did but they don't have the LHN to fall back on. In short, Sooner got screwed.

    Check out the following write-up that an OU board shamelessly lifted from a TTU board, was in turn shamelessly lifted by the CU Rivals board, and I am in turn shamelessly lifting for the edification of the AllBuffs faithful:

    THE LATEST ON THE BIG 12 SAGA

    It would seem at this point that, one way or the other, the Big 12 as we know it now is not long for this world.

    Level has talked with multiple sources in five different Big 12 cities and have learned some interesting details on the movement to "save" the Big 12.

    First, as has been reported elsewhere, officials at the highest levels of Oklahoma and Texas A&M are extremely upset at Baylor. This fury, specifically on the OU side, is what could ultimately drive the Sooners west.

    Baylor's Kenneth Starr is telling his counterparts around the league that his institution will definitely follow up on their threat to sue the SEC if Texas A&M leaves the Big 12.

    The Big 12 CEOs are set to meet on Thursday -- it is not known yet if this is going to be a face-to-face meeting or a teleconference -- to discuss the situation. That being said, from talking to folks in Norman, Level doesn't think you can rule out the possibility of OU making a decision before then.

    There is a movement inside the Big 12 to save the conference. From what Level has heard, the league's television partners have indicated that they would not look to make significant changes to their deals with the Big 12 -- slight changes in terms of payout, but they would not require the league to expand and get back to 10.

    Texas has made it known that it would agree to sharing the conference's first and second-tier revenue equally. Oklahoma is understandably not thrilled about that idea -- OU would probably stand to lose money if the conference went to equal revenue sharing, whereas UT's Longhorn Network allows it to bend a bit on this issue.

    The topic of expanding the conference is currently on ice.

    Here's the kicker: if Oklahoma does decide against joining the Pac-12, the Big 12 Conference would still cease to exist. There is a proposal that is currently under consideration that, if enacted, would dissolve the Big 12. The remaining nine schools would then reform as a completely new conference, complete with a new home office, new bylaws, new name, new leadership, new everything.

    Those new bylaws would include a provision that effectively makes it impossible for a member institution to leave the league. Essentially, if an institution did leave this new conference, the league would have their television rights for a period of three to six years.

    It is still very possible that Oklahoma, and by extension Oklahoma State, will leave for the Pac-12. Level hasn't heard anything tonight that implied that OU's position has changed.

    At this point right now, Level thinks that one of two things will happen -- Tech will go to the Pac-12 with Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas, or Tech will remain in a reformed Big 12.

    - Staff
     
  2. The Guest

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    **** Baylor.

    Signed,

    Boomer Sooner
     
  3. Alfred91

    Alfred91 Club Member Club Member

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    **** me. This **** again?
     
  4. leftybuff

    leftybuff Iconoclast Club Member

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    Dear Larry,

    Please tell Bevo the only way he's coming to the P12 is as a large brisket to be served BBQ style at the inaugural P12 conference championship tailgater.....
     
  5. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    Of course Cal fan won't be wanting any. He'll stick with a nice big bowl of tofu....
     
  6. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    Wait, so OU is pissed that the B12 is going to have equal revenue sharing, so it's going to take it's ball and go to the Pac 12, where we have equal revenue sharing...

    Am I the only one who thinks this is utterly moronic?
     
  7. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Big 12 equal revenue sharing doesn't equal pac12 equal revenue sharing. UT's 3d tier rights (LHN) mean lots more cash for UT. What this means is that ESPN et al have said "thanks, but no thanks" to an all sooner network.
     
  8. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    In the Pac-12, we share our 3rd tier rights through a conference network that is expected to quickly pay each member $10-15 million a year. That's almost as much as Big 12 members get with their equal share of 1st and 2nd tier rights.
     
  9. leftybuff

    leftybuff Iconoclast Club Member

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    We're talking about the dirt burglars here...why would moronic behavior surprise you?
     
  10. leftybuff

    leftybuff Iconoclast Club Member

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    Sweet, more for me....
     
  11. sackman

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    It wouldn't shock me to see ESPN go back to UT and tell them they'd prefer to make the LHN a conference network. They're having a helluva hard time finding subscribers. If that happened today, I would put money on A&M staying and the B12 having a long, happy (albeit somewhat dysfunctional) life.
     
  12. Alfred91

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    That would be great, but I'm pretty sure that ESPN did research into a Big 12 network and found it to be most likely unprofitable.
     
  13. Jens1893

    Jens1893 Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I constantly find myself debating whether Oklahoma is good or evil.
     
  14. SuperD

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    I'm sure its not helping them that the PAC's start up partners include TWC and Comcast...they couldn't possibly have a vested interest in holding out against the LHN and then having UT have to join a league where those rights will then move to a network that they are partners with. The cable Cosa Nostra couldn't possibly be that devious and aggressive about using their power, nah...oh wait, yeah that pretty much sounds like their standard operating procedure.
     
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  15. InTheBuff

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    OU is no good-
    Texass is evil
     
  16. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    Signed,

    Jabba from your signature pic
     
  17. ginfizzbear

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    The Longhorn Conference!

    Also, Cal is going to crush the Buffs tomorrow.
     
  18. dio

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    Do we get our money back if this happens?
     
  19. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    You probably shouldn't have dropped the mescaline so early. It's almost 22 hours to kickoff.
     
  20. Mick Ronson

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    not often we can run hippie smack *at someone else*.
     
  21. El Gringo

    El Gringo Pura Vida Club Member

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    Talk about burning your bridges!

    Let me guess the new home office would be Dallas, the name would be The Longhorn Conference, Dan Beebe would be the "commissioner" with Deloss Dodd the puppet master, etc. The king is dead, long live the king.

    This here is an invitation to litigation. There is a general rule of contracts, while you can specify damages in an agreement, if the provision is deemed a "penalty" the provision is unenforceable. What constitutes a "penalty"? That where the litigation begins. Unfortunately the only school with options other than OU is UT - everyone else will continue to suckle Bevo's teet.
     
  22. Cal_Fan2

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    Not unless you want to relive the 60s...the only hippies around Cal anymore are on Berkeley's City Council and random tree sitters that may wander in....from out of state....and Cal fans hate both....by the way, set us up with some rib eyes please, send the tofu to the aforementioned city council...they still like that kind of stuff... GO BEARS !!!!
     
  23. ThndringHerd

    ThndringHerd Well-Known Member

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    Tonto says:

    "Man who live in tree house should not start fires, Kemosabe."
     
  24. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Honestly, CU fans are mostly like the South Park alums. We think everyone is full of **** and deserves our ridicule. :smile2:
     
  25. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Rabid goldfish agrees with this post.
     
  26. SuperD

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    Posted this over on rivals as well. Now what the hell does this mean...Wilner tweet:


    wilnerhotline Jon Wilner
    Per sources: B12 still has pulse. Kansas schools successfully playing leverage game. When Manhattan says jump, Austin says how high?


    Maybe the other schools have figured out UT has painted themselves into a corner with the LHN?
     
  27. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    OU>UT based on the Big 8 history alone. Screw UT and the overmedicated cow they rode in on.
     
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  28. Unleash Hell

    Unleash Hell Well-Known Member

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    really?
    [video=youtube;lCB0j79B7jw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCB0j79B7jw&feature=channel_video_title[/video]
     
  29. GoBeers

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    WTF? That doesn't seem all that smart - Texas will share tier 1 and tier 2 revenue equally? Why? A&M and OU are the schools with options to leave, while every other schools has been bent over by texas because they have no leverage. Why give them more money when the can't leave anyway? Sounds like politics to make OU look like the bad guy, but it could very well backfire. It's not like that sharing would have kept A&M in the league - as others have stated OU and A&M were getting extra money but have no LHN funds.

    If I'm OU, I just sit. Let A&M wait for an unconditional offer from the SEC. If the Big 12 scrap teams start trying to bring OU down more, then look into bolting.

    B12 is so mismanaged, it's sad. That starts with Beebe.
     
  30. ginfizzbear

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    If you'd like, when I come to Boulder tomorrow, I will bring and share some of my homemade bottled farts.
     

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