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Boyle's offensive system and the future

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by jwhite17, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. jwhite17

    jwhite17 Member

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    To start, Boyle is a true blessing for this program, our defense is solid and keeps us in every game (Kansas was the exception), but I think we need to fix the offense...

    Based on observation and numbers, it seems our offense performance has gotten progressive worse each year.

    The 2010 team had Burks/Higgins/Relphorde/Knutson, so they could score points by their abilty to drive and finish, make free throws, shoot a high percentage shot, etc. All of these guys were smart offensive players. They never really forced as much as the team does now. We averaged over 80 points/game with that team, but even with all that offensive ability, our defense cost us many games that year. Could you imagine if that team could play defense like this year's team? Wow.

    The 2011 team didn't have many weapons: Carlon Brown - up and down, Dufault - solid senior, Tomlinson - mediocre senior, Dinwiddie - good frosh, Booker - up and down frosh, and Roberson - up and down soph. This team averaged about 67ppg, which is pretty good considering we lost so much firepower from the year before, and we relied on a senior transfer, two senior role players from teh previous year, one offensively limited but athletic sophmore and two frosh for the main scoring output.

    The 2012 team had more weapons than the 2011 team but not the same experience and leadership. We can look unstoppable offensively sometimes (first half CSU, first half at Zona, and Stanford/Oregon at home), but most other times, we can go on long scoring droughts (ex. at Utah, at Cal). We finished the year averaging 68.2ppg, which is slightly better than last year.

    Also, our assist numbers have gone done each year (14/12/10 respectively), and this year, we finished the year with probably the worst assists/game average out of any team in the tourney (Surprisingly Illinois is just as bad as us with a 10.2 apg average). There are only 17 teams in all of D1 that have a worst assist/game number as us!

    I think we will improve next year because of familarity with the system and each starter will know his role. Our bench production will definitley be wayyyyy better, which should help relieve the starters of playing so many minutes a game and being fresher when coming back in and allow us to RUN hopefully.

    Here's my main though: we don't have consistent depth this year and not much last year either, so Boyle is forced to extend our starters into playing too many minutes; thus, our starters force shots up that would normally go in, but because of tired legs, our shots don't fall and we go into long scoring droughts. If we had a solid and consistent bench, our starters would make those couple extra shots to go along with the bench producing a few buckets and therefore, improving our PPG average.


    Thoughts? What do you guys think is causing the problems? Youth? No true PG? Offensive system? Lack of depth? Reliance on getting to the line all the time? Too many combo guards?
     
  2. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    One of the big things that will improve our stats next year will be that we'll be older with another year in the weight room. We should finish more at the rim, which will increase shooting percentage.

    Another will be that the focus of the offense will shift more to Jelly and XJ. This year, they have taken under 1/3 of our shots. Next year it should be over 40%. Combined, we can probably count on the two of them shooting 50-55% from the field. That's a major impact on offensive efficiency.

    Beyond that, we will have better shooters on the perimeter. Ski will not shoot as poorly next season. Likely his percentage goes up. And if it doesn't, he won't get anywhere near the same number of shot attempts. For outside shooting, we'll be replacing Chen and Dre with guys like Jenkins along with whichever freshman emerges (Fletch, Dustin or J-Hop).

    Next, I think your point about fatigue is very important. With more depth, we'll be able to keep the defensive intensity while also having fresh legs. As much as I was so emotionally invested in 2011 when our Buffs were selling out so hard on the defensive end that they looked like zombies on the offensive end during the 2nd half of our tourney games, I never want to have to go through that again. I don't think we'll have to.

    Further, we'll remove Dre's 55%, Chen's 61% and Tunks' 46% from our FT shooting. XJ's 55% is an issue and needs to come up, but other than that the 2013-14 Buffs have the look of a much better FT shooting team. That will give our offensive efficiency a nice boost.

    Last, we're not a good passing team. It's mostly a movement and recognition issue. This has to improve next year based on a couple things. First, we won't be as young. We have to assume that Jelly will punish teams that try to double him in the post by hitting cutters, kick-outs and skip passes next season, for example. Second, we only have 2 true ball handlers this year (with Talton becoming a 3rd and Chen having to fill a role he's not all that suited for). Next season, we'll be fairly deep at guard again. One of the biggest reasons for the 2011 assists, other than being veterans and good shooters, is that there were times we had 5 solid ball handlers on the court at the same time - Cory, Alec, Levi, Nate & Marcus.
     
  3. Hoops Fan

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    I don't see Dre on most of the current 2013 Mock Drafts. Do you know something that I don't? What makes you think he is leaving?
     
  4. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I haven't looked at mock drafts. I'm going by what Spencer, Tad and Dre have alluded to all year and by what people close to the program have said. I think we've had a lot more on this in Barzil than we've put on the free board.

    Anyway, before the year I was sure Dre was gone after this year. By mid-season, his draft stock had dipped and I thought we were 50/50. Now I think it's pretty much back to a certainty that he's leaving. I'd love to be wrong, though.
     
  5. Scotch

    Scotch Registered User Club Member Junta Member

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    I would like to see Ski become more of a distributer/pg next season. He's got the handles for it. Get him and Talton in that role, and free up Spencer for the 2 spot more often. Both can drive the lane and both can hit the outside shot.

    The motion Boyle runs is fine, but him and his staff need to start running more set plays designed to get their shooters good looks, instead of them having to create them on their own. Add a pick-n-roll element. Inbounds plays leave a lot to be desired as well.
     
  6. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I agree with your entire post. But the part I bolded is not talked about enough. If there's one thing I'd like Tad and staff to do this offseason, it's go to a clinic on inbounds plays.
     
  7. Scotch

    Scotch Registered User Club Member Junta Member

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    Hell just spend a few hours talking with Bzdelik. The inbound play never seemed to be a problem when he was coach.
     
  8. CVilleBuff

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    Please, yes, do this. Unreal how lacking we are. Have we done it once in 3 years? :lol:
     
  9. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I'm afraid the person he talked to is George Karl. Remember that Nugs/Lakers playoff game a few years ago? :bang:
     
  10. tante

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    I believe we had one good inbound play this year that resulted in a layup.
     
  11. Scotch

    Scotch Registered User Club Member Junta Member

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    :lol: Anthony Carter isn't on the team so I think we're ok.
     

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