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Coach Mac & the patience argument regarding Embree

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Buffnik, Sep 16, 2012.

  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Besides all the stuff about a different era where a couple bad seasons didn't get so much media attention that national recruiting would go in the toilet, there's something else that we don't talk enough about.

    Bill McCartney was an assistant to Bo Schembechler at Michigan from 1974-1981, the last 5 as defensive coordinator. During that time, Michigan only finished 1 season ranked outside the Top 10 (#19). Before that, he'd been a high school head coach who won 2 state championships in Ohio.

    With that kind of pedigree, patience is much easier to come by. Time is much easier to grant.

    It would be like if CU hired Kirby Smart. 5 years as the Assistant HC / DC at Alabama. His previous 5 years in coaching were Florida State, LSU, Georgia and the Miami Dolphins (moved around a lot because Saban keeps hiring him). With that record, you can have confidence that he's got what it takes.

    Embree was a high risk hire. You simply don't grant the same level of patience to high risk hires.
     
  2. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    Nick's on fire tonite.
     
  3. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Ding ding ding!
     
  4. Darian3Hagan

    Darian3Hagan '89 Player of the Year Club Member

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    Wait I thought we already decided to fire this staff?
     
  5. Tadploe

    Tadploe Member Club Member

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    Something has to change/happen.
     
  6. BuffaloChuck

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    Nik, the "with a high risk hire, the patience factor is different" argument is the reasonable one.

    There's one more. "What's going on in the recruiting world? How many top undecided players have CU listed as their top choice?" Ask their HS coaches. Those coaches see the players, they hear taunts and jokes, and the coaches can add an objectivity that a 16-17 year old may not offer to a direct point-blank question where "choosing easiest, most-expected answer" is often part of their learned habits.
     
  7. BuffClass90

    BuffClass90 Banned BANNED

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    Bazinga! Good post.
     
  8. BuffUp

    BuffUp W.T.T.F. Club Member

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    Bad hire, bad coaching, buffs are sucking
     
  9. Walter White

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    This is probably the best post I've seen on this site.

    Across all sports, there is a very low correlation between paying aptitude (coach as a former player) and coaching aptitude. I don’t think it’s even debatable.

    Furthermore, I cannot understand why being an alum was a big factor in the past coaching search at CU. Look at what is working, and has worked, in college football and in the coaching profession. Are any of the top coaches also alums of the schools they currently coach? Few and far between, I would suggest.
     

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