Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by sliderNcider, Dec 10, 2012.
slider, I think you worry too much ... :lol:
So he'll double JE's career win total in year 1?
Presumably, you'll be bringing in far better players at CU, so your comparison doesn't really make any sense.
I'm not a fan of Baer, but the other 3 (Clark, Jeffcoat, and Lindgren) are all fairly hot young coaches. I get the feeling he's looking for some continuity so he will probably keep one holdover from the previous staff as well. Other than that, I agree. We have a lot of money to spend so we need to get some big time coaches. Prying either Adrian Klemm or Demetrice Martin from UCLA would be a good start. Matt Lubick is another name that would be smart to throw some money at.
Wouldn't complain if Baer stayed behind to take over SJSU
Slider, you stink.
Yep. Him and the OL coach have a ton of exp in the P10, but there's a reason why they were at SJSU. Bring in the hot up and coming types and supplant them with big money guys.
Except we're not a 10 win team in the Wac. My point is, bringing in a majority Wac coaching staff and expecting them to light the Pac-12 on fire is a recipe for disaster. Especially when we're paying a lot of $$
I need context for your fear. How many coaches did Urban Meyer take to Florida? etc etc... in order to worry, we need to know if 5 is abnormal.
Presumably he's going to bring some of the hot up-and-comers along and then throw $$$ at some other big name assistants. Is your brother getting in your head tonight? You understand there's a difference between bringing coaches with you and bringing the entire SJSU team, right? His coaches coaching Pac-12 talent is an entirely different situation than coaching WAC talent, you get that concept, right?
Using rivals to look at their 2005 coaching staff: Dan Mullen, John Hevesy, Billy Gonzales, and Chuck Heater.
so far, evidence is against slider.
Please new strength and conditioning coach dedicated to fb....
I'm with Slider - concerned about how many folks he is bringing with him, and also concerned that it doesn't look like he is going to shake up the recruiting class.
I share those concerns, but honestly I don't have the context necessary to decide how concerned I should be.
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The Urban # was higher than I guessed. But to be fair, I think it's safe to say we're not getting Urban Meyer as a coach, so we'll need better assistants. Especially for the price we're willing to pay
I suggest we worry about the staff when it is finalized, and the class when they sign. In all reality there is a large chance Mac2 is just paying lip service to all of this to keep his options open.
I'm ok with him bringing 4 at most (not counting the S&C coach). If he brings more than that, I'm not liking it.
I also don't like that he's going to honor all of our commits.. I guess that's the price we pay for him being a really nice guy. Some of them don't even have options so it's not like they're just all super dedicated to CU. I'd rather he evaluate them all and go from there.
Fair enough abs - I guess I'm just a bit jaded after the last 7 years, and I remember making excuses for the choices that Embo and Hawk made. But you're right, we should let things solidify before getting upset.
How many from his Boise staff did Hawkins brought to Boulder?
One less than needed.
Kind of interesting who Meyer did bring in at Florida his first year. I'm sure Gator fans were not overly happy with this staff when it was announced:
Dan Mullen: QB coach at Utah and Bowling Green 3 years total
Ryan Day: 3 years total at New Hampshire and Boston College as an assistant coach and TE coach
Charlie Strong: holdover from Zook's staff. Impressive resume, but how much did Gator fans love the idea of the DC sticking around?
Stan Drayton: 4 years at Villanova as a RB coach and 2 years at Mississippi State as a RB coach.
Billy Gonzales: 2 years at Utah and 7 years at Bowling Green as ST coordinator/RB/WR coach and recruiting coordinator for a bit.
Steve Addazio: 2 years at Syracuse, 3 years at Notre Dame, 3 years at Indiana as OL/TE coach and then his last year at Indiana was as OC.
John Hevesy: 2 years at Brown, 2 at Bowling Green, 1 at Air Force and 1 at Utah mostly as OL or TE coach.
Greg Mattison: had a lot of experience at Michigan, but came to Florida after 7 years as the DC at Air Force.
Chuck Heater: pretty extensive background in college football.
Doc Holliday: spent like 20 years at West Virginia as WR coach mostly and then 4 years at NCSU as WR coach.
Kind of funny looking at that list now as they're all pretty big names, but not so much back then. btw, I'm not saying if MacIntyre hauls in a bunch of nobodies from the MWC and WAC that things will be all good.
Of the likely 5 that will come, only Baer has coached at a bcs program. His OL coach coached at USC/UCLA, but twenty years ago. His QB/OC Lindgren has coached an FBS team for a total of 1 year, Jeffcoat had 5 years, and Clark has 3 (all at SJSU)
Ron Collins (DC/OLB), Jeff Pitman (S&C), Romeo Bandison (DL), Kent Riddle (TE/ST), Chris Strausser (OL). Strausser lasted one year before being replaced by Jeff Grimes, who by the way was let go by Malzahn at Auburn so I wonder if he's even remotely on our radar to return if the money was right.
Ya I'm concerned about Baer. This is a pretty scathing summary of his career:
Head coach- Mike McIntyre
Defensive Co-ordinator- Don't know
Offensive Co-ordinator/Quarterbacks Coach- Brian Lindgren
Offensive Line- Gary Bernardi
Wide receivers/TE - Kennedy
Running Backs- Don't know
Defensive Line- Jim Jeffcoat
Recruiting co-ordinator- Kanavis Mcghee
Defensive Backs- Charles Clark
Linebackers- Don't know
Special Teams-Don't know
The **** is a "co-ordinator"?
Separate names with a comma.