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Colorado Elite Camp attendees

Discussion in 'University of Colorado Recruiting Archive' started by Duff Man, Jun 11, 2011.

  1. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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  2. buff4bcs1985

    buff4bcs1985 Hail to the King

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    is cope-fitzpatrick in position to pull a trigger this weekend?
     
  3. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Let's hope.
     
  4. bigbang

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    If we can get Jalen Cole fitzpatrick and Jamar Graves to commit this weekend, i would be extremely happy.
     
  5. SteelCity Buff

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    Do the elite camps usually have an out of state focus? From what I understand about these camps, one of the motivations for a coaching staff is just to make sure the measurables are what they've been told. I know you can't have kids run 40's at junior days, but I'm hoping the lack of Colorado kids on the list is because the staff has seen them a number of times.

    I'm hoping some of the instate ol make an appearance.
     
  6. White_Rabbit

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    JCF please!!!

    I like Schany quite a bit too, wouldn't mind seeing us get a commitment from him.
     
  7. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    There will be plenty of in-state kids there, but most are going to be FCS-level prospects. It does not make much sense for the 2012 in-state linemen to come to the camp, other than to make a trip to Boulder (not the worst excuse). Honestly though, the coaches know enough about the elite in-state guys. They have seen them up close and personal, they have talked to their coaches and to rival coaches.

    The camp is a chance for lesser known players to make their mark and hopefully earn a scholarship offer along the way. Word tends to get out if a kid consistently plays well at different camps. It gives the coaches a chance to see a kid's competitiveness. There have been plenty of stories through the years where a player shows up at a camp and absolutely balls to earn a scholarship offer. However, it can also go the other way. If the coaches have their eye on a particular player and he does not play hard at the camp or just lacks the fire, you can pretty much kiss an offer goodbye.

    Lastly, it gives the coaches a chance to do what they love to do-coach. Sounds cliche, but these guys have not had a chance to interact with their own players as coaches for a while now. The camps are also a great marketing tool for the school as a whole. Many of the players at the camp will never play in a CU uniform, but they might walk-on or attend the university without football.
     
  8. Sexton Hardcastle

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    It's going to take a lot to convince him not to go to an Ivy league school. I think he's really leaning towards Harvard.
     
  9. buff4bcs1985

    buff4bcs1985 Hail to the King

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    crap...
     
  10. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Don't think you turn down a Harvard education, ever.
     
  11. White_Rabbit

    White_Rabbit Club Member Club Member

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    If you're serious about football you certainly do. Plenty of people turn it down to play big time football.
     
  12. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    I'm not sure what I'd tell my kid if he had a choice between CU and Harvard.

    I'd be one proud papa!
     
  13. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    In about 15 years, I will tell mine to go to CU to enjoy the undergrad years, win a conference title or four, get prepared to make some cheddar in the NFL, and then go get an Ivy League master's degree when football is over.
     
  14. Daaah

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    I'd recommend Stanford.
     
  15. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    If you have the skill to go pro maybe but football is temporary, a Harvard degree is for life.
     
  16. Sexton Hardcastle

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    Yeah, but I think you only have one shot at the NFL. Harvard will always be there after you quit football.
     
  17. White_Rabbit

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    Pretty sure a Colorado degree is too. Harvard is no doubt the ****, but we're talking about kids that have committed their entire lives up to this point to playing football. You don't think that's kind of important to them? Even if they lack the potential to play pro, playing big time college football is a hell of an achievement too.
     
  18. Creebuzz

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    Not to mention, Harvard will place him in considerable debt. My understanding is Harvard doesn't give athletic scholarships, so he would be paying full freight, right?
     
  19. dply

    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    One of my co-workers has a harvard degree. I'm not impressed.
     
  20. LongHaulBuff

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    ^^Correct
     
  21. sackman

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    Unless it's to get a Princeton education.
     
  22. sackman

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    Probably not. Harvard is only expensive if you can afford it. They have an enormous endowment that funds scholarships. Most scholarships are needs based. Unless his family is very wealthy, and thus can afford to send him there without the need for assistance, he'll probably receive some kind of scholarship. It won't technically be an athletic scholarship, but that's not really important.
     
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    I'm not sure I would let my kid play pro football. Sure it would be nice to see them play on the biggest stage in the US, but it would almost certainly mean problems later in life.
     
  24. Sexton Hardcastle

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    :nod:

    I'd rather see my kid play beisbol. :thumbsup:
     
  25. sackman

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    Personally, I'd rather see my kid in the Olympics.
     
  26. Sexton Hardcastle

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    My kid could be a mean Curler! :lol: [​IMG]
     
  27. MtnBuff

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    This is correct. The majority of students who go to Harvard pay the same or less than they might end up paying to go to a public university, even with financial aid at those schools. As selective as Harvard is most of their students have qualified for an array of other scholarships and grants before they touch the Harvard money. Then Harvard awards large amounts of money based on family need, on merit, on diversity considerations, etc.

    Even though they don't award "athletic" scholarships it is clearly understood that if a kid qualifies for admission (and the give a degree of flexibility on admission to athletes) that the funds will be there to cover the cost of schooling. In some cases because they are making the argument that they are simply distributing funds in an equal manner to all other students the kid actually recieves more than he would be allowed on an NCAA approved athletic scholly elswhere. This is the same thing that allows the academies to pay their players, they are getting paid the same as every other cadet, athlete or not, so it is allowed.

    Also similar to the academies, because they are not using "athletic" schollies they can bring in a larger number of prospective players every year. They may not be blue-chippers but they can afford to find a kid who is a good student and a talented player who may be a couple inches short or few pounds light for a BCS level scholly offer and bring them in with the intention that if they kid gets bigger or otherwise develops they have a player, if not he finishes his education and nothing lost. The academies have done this for years. The AFA has a complete freshman football program with 70-90 kids a year. The best continue with varsity ball, the rest move on to intermural athletics as they finish (hopefully) their degrees at the academy. This gives them a shot a giving marginal kids an extra year to develop before facing a cut decision on their D1 football careers. Harvard does a similar thing with lots of freshman who don't play after their first year.
     
  28. MtnBuff

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    Another big impact of the camps, which won't be seen this year is for kids to go back to their schools and talk about the university and the program. Many of the campers will never get a BCS or even a FCS offer but if they go back to their HS teams with a positive impression of CU and the coaches that can get tranferred on to the underclassmen who may develop into those types of players and be more receptive to being recruited. This is part of the process where developing recruiting momentum takes time.
     
  29. Wyo Buff

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    You are kidding, right? I bleed black and gold but if Harvard wants to pay for my child's education, his ticket is punched. Some things are more important than football.
     
  30. dyemeduke

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    I understand what you're saying, but if your kid was a four/five star recruit, with the chance to fulfill his life dream by winning a national championship at CU (or USC, ND, Alabama, or any other school), wouldn't you be taken aback if he chose Harvard?

    Yes, there are some great things about Harvard, but some of the posts in this thread seem to make Harvard this amazing institution that dwarfs CU. Yes, Harvard does have a much more prestigious universal reputation than CU. Their alumni also take care of their own a lot better. (side note - just because someone graduates from Harvard, doesn't mean they're smart. Yes, most likely they can be, but there are a lot of dumb ****s with alumni parents there...or just rich kids. They also been found to give a lot of good grades in some classes for subpar classroom performance.)

    However, CU does still provide a quality education - much better than average, and best in the RM/plains area (WY, KS, NE, UT areas). You can get a solid job with a CU degree if you do it right. So couple this with a kid's desire to play football? - I say no question CU is the place to go. Harvard's education to me does not make up for their lack of football. If my kid is a solid three star prospect or higher and he is approached by Ivy leagues and CU - I'm steering him to CU...****, I'll forge his LOI to CU if I have to.
     

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