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Colorado's Offensive Line

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Sexton Hardcastle, Jul 29, 2010.

  1. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    How do you see things working out?

    We have pretty good depth imo at tackle, but the interior line situation is a mess. We need someone to step up at guard. Hopefully Richter. I've just about given up hope that anyone will come in and impress at center. Looks like we'll have to stick it out with Keenan Stevens. No knock on the kid, I just thought we would've had someone, anyone step up at that position.

    The whole season is riding on the OL's shoulders. If they struggle, goodbye Hawkins. If they actually gel, we could kick a lot of ass this year.

    This is the CU's post spring depth chart:

    LEFT TACKLE

    78 Nate Solder, 6‐9, 315, Sr.‐5***
    59 David Bakhtiari, 6‐4, 275, Fr.‐RS
    79 Sione Tau, 6‐5, 350, Jr.

    LEFT GUARD
    63 Ethan Adkins, 6‐4, 305, Jr.*
    66 Blake Behrens, 6‐3, 295, Jr.**
    70 Eric Richter, 6‐3, 310, Jr. AND 55 Max Tuioti‐Mariner, 6‐3, 310, Soph.*

    CENTER
    56 Keenan Stevens, 6‐2, 290, Sr.‐5*
    64 Mike Iltis, 6‐3, 290, Jr.*
    76 Gus Handler, 6‐2, 290, Fr.‐RS

    RIGHT GUARD
    73 Ryan Miller, 6‐8, 310, Jr.***
    68 Shawn Daniels, 6‐3, 275, Jr.*
    60 David Clark, 6‐4, 300, Jr.*
    61 Scott Fernandez, 6‐3, 275, Fr.‐RS

    RIGHT TACKLE
    77 Bryce Givens, 6‐6, 275, Soph.*
    53 Ryan Dannewitz, 6‐6, 300, Soph.
    75 Jack Harris, 6‐5, 290, Fr.‐RS
    71 Matthew Bahr, 6‐4, 290, Jr.**

    Incoming Freshman
    Crabb, Kaiwi
    Lewis, Alex
    Munyer, Daniel
     
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  2. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    The biggest disappointment imo is Behrens. I know he still has time, I just thought this kid was going to be a force when he came in.
     
  3. BlackNGold

    BlackNGold Club Member Club Member

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    Where is Jack Harris on your list? I thought he was the best OL recruit in the class a year ago. I don't know how much he will contribute but he should see the field some this year.
     
  4. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    Whoops. :)
     
  5. mdelpizzo_1

    mdelpizzo_1 My Dixie Wrecked Club Member

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    We'll see
     
  6. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    Not sure why they don't place Bahr in the mix at guard. He's 6-4 290. I know that height isn't the main factor, but I'd like to see him in the running at LG. Couldn't hurt. :)
     
  7. White_Rabbit

    White_Rabbit Club Member Club Member

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    I agree, he has filled in well when given the chance.
     
  8. Unleash Hell

    Unleash Hell Well-Known Member

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    I like our starting line, if they stay healthy (knock on wood), I think it could be a very good line!
     
  9. rodrigo

    rodrigo Well-Known Member

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    I'd throw Adkins and Iltis into that pot, too. Two years ago when some of us were dreaming a B12 title in 2010 - wow, remember those days? - a big part of the reason was gonna be this bulldozing o-line. JMHO, but I think Valdez is dead on: shore up LG and C and the overall o-line play could still be a serious strength. If the other three spend the season having to block two guys in pass protection it won't matter who is QB.
     
  10. GregInArlington

    GregInArlington Well-Known Member

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    Our O-line has the size to kick some ass. With a good scheme I think they should be pretty successful.
     
  11. BehindEnemyLines

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    Iltis may still supplant Stevens at C.

    Is Givens still at 275? Kinda thot he'd be somewhere around 290+ by now.
     
  12. Costa Rica Buff

    Costa Rica Buff Active Member

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    Iltis can also back up at Guard.

    Givens is one of those guys who can't maintain weight. If we ever see him above 285 I'd be shocked.
     
  13. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    It's all great on paper. Just like last year.
     
  14. CUwhit21

    CUwhit21 Club Member Club Member

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    Would much rather see Behrens or Iltis step up at LG. Just don't think Ethan Adkins is very good..
     
  15. AlferdJasper

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    Alex Lewis is grayshirting --- enrolling in January, so won't be a factor this season.
     
  16. AlferdJasper

    AlferdJasper Well-Known Member

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    FWIW, I have heard some good recent reports on Harris. Solid.
     
  17. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

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    We are putting too many expectations on Richter (Andre Simmons syndrome) imo.
    I believe they brought him to compete, but really expect him to end up Redshirting to help provide some depth behind our many Juniors. If he improves the offense, they'll play him. There's no next year.

    I think Stevens is likely to start at C.
    I think ALL of these guys have a shot at LG (Adkins, Iltis, Bahr, Behrens, and MTM). ALL JUNIORS

    Richte's new to our system, and has zero exerience at this level. Maybe, just maybe, he's slotted to redshirt and be an experienced guy in 2011/12 - we will need it badly by 2012. If he wins the job, I'm sure he'll play, but I don't see that as real likely.

    Behrens and Bahr were not healthy last year. Iltis wasn't healthy until the end of the season and MTM was out completely. All of these guys are wildcards and all have starting experience in the Big12. My money is that one of these guys locks in or Adkins, and you see Richter get a year to learn the system and further develop.
     
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  18. 13Buff

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    If Tau actually gets to play this year, why not move him to the DL? 350 lbs. at 3rd string Left Tackle? We could use that girth on the other side of the ball.
     
  19. Buff_since76

    Buff_since76 Still a fan... Club Member

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    The line for the Nebraska game last year was:

    LT – Solder
    LG – Itilis
    C – Stevens
    RG – Miller
    RT – Givens

    The report I heard is Givens is now 290+ (we will know for sure in a week). I think this will be the starting line vs CSU this year. I know Itilis is listed as the back-up center for camp, but if he is the best option for LG he will make the move and be the back-up center as well. Itilis was getting a ton of buzz after spring of 2008, and then blew out his ACL on the first day of fall camp. He will be two years post surgery by the time the first game rolls around. There are two scenarios I see that could cause this to change. First, someone (Richter, MTM) takes the LG spot by dominating fall camp. I would love to see this, but I am not holding my breath. Second, Itilis proves he is the better center and the team will be better with him in the middle and someone else at LG.

    The key to the line this year will be how well they work together and communicate, so whoever is center will have to step up and call out the right blocking scheme as the defense shifts. We have guys who can play positions, but we need to get the best unit on the field. If the o-line screws up and allows a DT a free shot at TH from a simple stunt against CSU, I will be the guy leaving Mile high in hand cuffs for jumping the fence and kicking Denver Johnson in the nuts!
     
  20. BuffLuKe

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    My hope is that the main 5, whoever that will be, stay healthy and develope some chemistry playing together. It doesnt seem like we have had 5 guys on the line seperate themselves from the 2's and 3's in quite sometime. As far as their play, hell, they have to win some battles up front. Tired of seeing our guys getting pushed into the backfield when we are trying to run the ball. Have to get a consistent push up front or in the least bit get a body on a body in the running game. As far as pass protection, it has to be solid. One good thing is that Tyler has some escapability when it breaks down. Blitz pickup has been killing us, some oline screwups, others from the backs. Alot of times D's are sending more than we can pick up anyway because we havent been able to stretch the field. Until we stretch the field consistently and make teams pay that are sending 6, 7, and 8 guys, they will keep doing it and we will have the same problems.
     
  21. 96 Buff

    96 Buff Resident Commie Bastard Club Member Junta Member

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    Since we'll likely change offensive philosphies every other week -- as we have the last 4 years -- the OL will be lost along with the rest of the team.
     
  22. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    pick 5 guys within week 1. Those 5 guys practice together nonstop from that point onward. Enough chemistry issues goddamit.
     
  23. sackman

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    I think Hawk was quoted as saying this is the best chemistry his team has ever had. What's the problem?
     
  24. buffalo30

    buffalo30 Active Member

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    When the people in charge put together an offense besides the 3 yard sideline out pass, the offensive line might begin to know what to do. The offensive linemen are a good group of young men. Once the line coach and linemen know what to do, they have a chance to get it done.
    :smile2:

    I just read the posts put up while I was writing this.
    96 Buff's post says just about the same thing. I think he is right.
    :smile2:
     
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  25. 96 Buff

    96 Buff Resident Commie Bastard Club Member Junta Member

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    Cinch it up!
     
  26. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

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    Having Kiesau back at OC removes this from consideration. He started to find he stride by mid year and will have more weapons at WR (as in 2 guys with speed instead of zero). I look for a continuation of what we had in game 12.
     
  27. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

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    You'll have to beat me to the field, which will be easy, since I'll be about in the last row top section of the endzone. My reward for BuffClub donations and my 50-yard line seats at Folsom, and 4 season basketball tickets I guess.........
     
  28. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    I wasn't too impressed with Iltis at all last season.
     
  29. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    I'm just happy that the kid is still on the football team.
     
  30. Buffarino

    Buffarino Math - how does it work? Club Member

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    Isn't that the truth...
     

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