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Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Corn_Fan, Jun 16, 2010.

  1. Corn_Fan

    Corn_Fan Member

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    Although I am sad to see our rivalry end I am truly glad for you guys to have landed on your feet in the Pac 10/12. I know some are questioning your move now that the Big XII is (supposedly) getting a better tv deal, but I know you guys always wanted to be in the Pac and you will be happy there. It is a good move for you and I look forward to watching you play the Pac 10/12 teams.

    Again good luck and I am so damn glad to be rid of Texas. This letter was posted by a Penn State fan on a Penn State message board and I thought you all would get a kick out of it:

    Dear Texas,

    Thank you for declining any overtures by the BigTen to join its conference. Thank you for deciding that joining the BigTen wasn’t in your best interests. Because it wasn’t until recently that I, a fan of Penn State and the BigTen, only recently realized that your joining probably wasn’t in OUR best interests. You’ve got a great intercollegiate athletics program, that’s for sure. And your academics are certainly on par with the best public colleges in the country. You enjoy a large in-state population and a large and devoted fan base. Many conferences would line up to sign up the Longhorns. The Pac10 did and was willing to also take your unremarkable in-state siblings to secure your allegiance. The BigTen considered a lesser conference schedule for you to facilitate retaining your traditional rivalry games. You certain are the belle of the ball. But as is often the case, the belle of the ball - - the pretty girl who has the world at her feet - - is also a conniving, self-centered, high-maintenance bitch.

    These are not the words of a jilted courter of your affections. These are the words of someone who has come to understand the meaning of the word conference. An organization of EQUALS with common interests and whose decisions are guided to benefitting the value of the conference brand over the individual member brand. Conference members work together and share equally that which is produced by the group. To you, a conference is merely a recurring set of athletics opponents that can be exploited to serve your interests over that of the collective group. Your interest in preserving the BigXII was hardly a heroic or magnanimous gesture to save those less prestigious programs that would suddenly find themselves without a home. No, your interests in saving the conference were to leverage your marquee value to grab an even larger slice of the conference revenue pie.

    You are King of the BigXII conference and you sit in a higher, padded chair at the head of a long conference table while your subjects sit on foot stools at the far end. The BigTen conference table is a round table, with neither a head nor foot and all chairs are of equal height and comfort. You would have found it uncomfortable at our table even as you elbowed for more space or a better view. And we would have found your company unbearable once we saw past your fair looks. A sincere “thank you” is owed to you and a word of caution is offered. Don’t be surprised if one day, your subjects storm the castle with torches and barbeque spits - - as slaughtered Longhorn would make a fine feast.
     
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  2. The Guest

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    What's with you being all cool lately, Corn Fan?

    The Penn State letter reminded me of something I've been thinking about lately. It's been danced around in several posts, but I'm trying to get a grip on how to best articulate it.

    Some have said that college football conferences are best run as collectives, and that the rules of capitalism don't apply. Yes and no. Yes, they best run as collectives, but the rules of capitalism still apply...you just have to shift your perspective on where the capitalist competition lies.

    --The product is college football games. The NCAA, the conferences and the schools should all be in the business of producing good football games for the fans. They're (we're) the ones shelling out cash...they're the ones whose ass the entire football producing world should be kissing.

    --The teams, the conferences are all in the business of producing football, so let's assume they're all working for the same college football company.

    --Conferences are like departments in that company, designed to oversee the regional levels of football production. BUT...the conferences are not bigger than the product. Football games remain the product--I'm afraid some conferences have forgotten this.

    --Teams represent base level of the product. Self interest suits them, because the product involves competition. You want the teams seeking the best deals for themselves, but the conferences are in place to make sure that there is still a good product.

    --The better the product, the higher the sales. That's the capitalism aspect of this deal. So what makes a good product? When good teams play good teams in an outcome that is far from certain.

    --When conferences undermine that concept, by all but ensuring some teams are considerably better than others, they aren't fulfilling their role (in my opinion). When the Conferences politics become bigger than the product, the product suffers. In time, so will sales.

    Maybe I'm still not sure how best to articulate this idea...
     
  3. Corn_Fan

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    Good stuff Walrus. You asked why I have been cool lately? I kind of feel a kinship with CU right now since we are the two 'outcasts' of the Big XII right now. We are the evil detractors blah blah blah. I find it fuuny after all these years CU and NU bolt the conference at nearly the same exact time, yet go on to different conferences. Plus we will only play you one more time and there really is no reason to hate each other anymore. I live in Denver and actually would not mind attending some CU games now I think CU playing in the Pac 10 sounds like some fun games and can understand why you all were excited to join that league.

    Anyway I honestly wish you guys good luck here on out (except when you play us of course) :)

    Here is to us meeting in the Rose Bowl someday! Cheers.
     
  4. 96 Buff

    96 Buff Resident Commie Bastard Club Member Junta Member

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    **** you.
     
  5. Corn_Fan

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    Yeah **** you to 96 Buff.
     
  6. MtnBuff

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    I think a better way to look at it is like a franchised business. Each individual franchise owner wants to maximize his/her profit from his/her own unit or units of that franchised operation. Some in the end have better locations, better management, etc. and will make more money other less. All of this is done with the understanding that to the customer they are seen as one business. A customer entering a McDonalds location in Boulder is not thinking they are entering a Boselli Enterprises (or whatever the corporate name is) they are entering a McDonalds. They expect to see a familiar menu, a certain level of service and cleanliness, and a similar price structure, all in surroundings that may vary somewhat but are clearly identifiable as McDonalds. An individual franchisee may have ideas that would be highly beneficial to that franchiser but they are not allowed to be implemented unless it is determined that they would benefit the entire company.

    College football is similar. Michigan and Ohio State are going to make more money because they routinely draw over 100,000 fans compared to Illinois or Indiana who may draw 1/2 that number. They each however have a responsibility to provide a reasonable level of support to each other so that all may succeed to their maximum potential as a whole. The Big X, the PAC 10 get this, Texas doesn't and as a result in the long term the fans of Texas and its conference mates will have less reason to be loyal to the college football brand.
     
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    An excellent way to look at it. We compete against each other on the field but off the field we compete as a group against other forms of entertainment, so it helps us all if there is enough competitive balance to keep the interest of the casual observer.

    Thats why the NFL has slowly become the most popular sport and baseball(where most cities have no shot at even reaching the postseason) has slipped to second or third place.

    But short sighted morons in our former conference don't get that, and thats why the big 12 is going to slide into what the SWC became.
     
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  8. SuperD

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    From the love fest going on between Buffs and Corn fans on the Rivals mainboard I almost think Dodds should be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. I've seen lots Buffs and Huskers making posts defending the other team and the fit their respective new conferences are for each school. That and joint derision for Texas's actions and patheticness of the remaining schools. Though to be fair it is hard to pick on ISU and KSU for doing what they need to do to survive. Screw Baylor, let em rot in Conference USA or the WAC, at least the other Big 12 schools have had winning and in some cases dominant seasons since the inception of the Big 12.
     
  9. ladyblaise

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    well said. i would go one step further and say the greed of both the horns and the sooners is so astounding that they truly deserve one another.
     
  10. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    Trouble in paradise? :smile2: Hope your lack of posting is a result of being good busy.
     
  11. ladyblaise

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    yes. plus, with summer vacay, i have more disposable time. during the year, i have discovered tohow to have negative time to oneself. no trouble in paradise. BUT this reallignment thing has allowed some SERIOUS smack talking in the household. :grin:
     
  12. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    I just hope you will find time in the next couple of years to boot some mother****ing utes (or any other opposing P12 fan) the way you should.
     
  13. ladyblaise

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    those poor little suckers.
     
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    Can I take this to mean that Ted is walking around with bright red hand prints under the coat of facial hair?:nod:
     
  15. Junction

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    Those are crimson hand prints. Ted don't do red..... :nod:
     
  16. 92Buff

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    I have to admit, I hate the corn just a little less the past few weeks than I did before. Guess it is kind of nice to be united on a few fronts: Giving Texass the big FU and now working to get out of paying any poenalties to those douches. (Now don't get too freaked out...my hatred is deep and this is just a few parts of the onion)

    I would LMFAO if we could skate without paying anything - which would just make the Big 3 look extremely stupid for forcing all of the "lunch money" directly into their pockets and showing what a-holes they are in the process.
     
  17. Corn_Fan

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    I am loving Mizzou fans right now. They are all saying the Big Ten sucks and how it is boring. Then they say Nebraska will end up 6th in the league every year and that NU is in for a rude awakening. (Thought you just said Big Ten sucks in football Mizzou fan?) They are saying the Big XII is stronger and that Texas and OU are better than all the Big Ten teams.

    Funny didn't Mizzou want to go to the Big Ten a week ago?

    Mizzou, KU and KSU fans are saying, "pay up bitches" to CU and NU don't try to get out of the penalty money. I say, "Why do you care you won't see a dime of the penalty money anyway you are giving it to Texas, OU and aTm." That usually shuts them up.
     

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