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CU Admins: "You wanna use the Ralphie logo? Pay me, b!tch@s!"

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Tatanka™, Jun 5, 2011.

  1. Tatanka™

    Tatanka™ Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, they have to protect the brand, but it seems rather dickish to me that they couldn't work something out with the hometown barber shop.

    http://www.dailycamera.com/cu-news/ci_18206926
     
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  2. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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  3. zbuff

    zbuff Club Member Club Member

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    You sign a contract to pay quarterly royalties and then try to claim that it's okay to pay every 5 years? Who's being dickish?
     
  4. Tatanka™

    Tatanka™ Well-Known Member

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    You are correct, sir. I originally read and posted this shortened version from the denverpost.com. Then I took another look at it and noticed that it was originally from The Camera so I changed the link. However, I didn't realize that the Camera version had a lot more details. I just read the full story and I agree with you. The barber was not without fault in this dispute.
     
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  5. Idot Buff

    Idot Buff Club Member Club Member

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    How much is Allbuffs paying for use of the brand?
     
  6. MrFrumpylane

    MrFrumpylane Well-Known Member

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    Where is AllBuffs using the brand?
     
  7. Buffsoldier

    Buffsoldier Well-Known Member

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    Anyone know how long the University maintains ownership/rights/whatever over a logo? Since the "official" Ralphie logo now has the italicized CU in it, can other groups freely use the block lettered version?
     
  8. Idot Buff

    Idot Buff Club Member Club Member

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    Top of this page....obviously not the trademarked version of the brand, but certainly a likeness that arguably CU could come after for royalties...
     
  9. zbuff

    zbuff Club Member Club Member

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    That would be quite a stretch.
     
  10. BehindEnemyLines

    BehindEnemyLines beware the habu Club Member

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    Imagine that .... Denver media conveniently leaving out details in a story about CU.
     
  11. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    No. Stoudt does not look anything like the CU Ralphie logos. No reasonable person would look at the AllBuffs trade dress and assume that we had an affiliation with or endorsement from the University of Colorado athletic department.

    If we ever decide to do CU logo gear that we sell through an AllBuffs store, you can be damn sure that we'll either source it from someone with an official license and/or get a license and make timely payments if we decide we want to do unique products.
     
  12. Idot Buff

    Idot Buff Club Member Club Member

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    I agree with your comments, but I don't think that is the point. The question, and it is a stretch, would be is this site profiting or gaining some benefit from an image that has a likeness to a trademarked brand? Probably not...but who knows....
     
  13. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Why would that be the question and what does it have to do with a barber shop that licensed the CU logo to market a product and then didn't make payments?
     
  14. Idot Buff

    Idot Buff Club Member Club Member

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    Did you read the entire article, and are you familiar with the value of brands? Organizations that are successful in making money from their brands (UT, as an example from the article) work diligently to ensure that they are paid by businesses who earn profits from utilizing the brand. The barber shop makes money, presumably, from having the Buff logo spread all over its establishment. I acknowledged it was a stretch that CU would come after Allbuffs because of Stoudt. However, if CU became like UT and other organizations that truly want to protect their brand from others profiting from it without paying royalties, then CU could ask that Allbuffs remove any likeness to Ralphie from the site.
     
  15. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    UT is the gold standard as far as university athletic departments that maximize their brands and have aggressively protected its marks.

    You also have sites like shaggybevo, orangebloods, burnt orange nation, horn fans and other message boards that use identifying logos that make it clear that they are UT fan sites. This is not an issue. I'm not sure why you want to make it into one.

    Edit: Look at the NFL for other examples. No one protects its brands like the NFL. Might want to check out The Orange Mane web site and its logo.

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  16. SINKRATZ

    SINKRATZ Club Member Club Member

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    From a guy who trademarks an Internet screen name...oh the irony.
     
  17. zbuff

    zbuff Club Member Club Member

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    I think the problem stems from seeing the mods driving around in their Bugattis.
     
  18. Tatanka™

    Tatanka™ Well-Known Member

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    Okay. I LOL'd at that! Touché! :lol:
     
  19. Tatanka™

    Tatanka™ Well-Known Member

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    Oh noes! They're gonna make Buffnik change this site to allbuff.com! :cry::wow::cry:

    And I guess The Ralphie Report will have to become The Ralph Report!
     
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  20. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    We'll just send them after the more blatant abuse of the brand in your signature... :smile2:
     
  21. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I don't own this site, man.

    All the liability is dio's.
     
  22. Idot Buff

    Idot Buff Club Member Club Member

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    Perhaps this could be the new logo, then :

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  23. Idot Buff

    Idot Buff Club Member Club Member

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    Well done! Of course, they should really go after Danny for the way he abused the brand and set it back multiple years.
     
  24. Tatanka™

    Tatanka™ Well-Known Member

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    Or this!
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  25. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Yasmine Bleeth has sure changed a lot since Baywatch.
     
  26. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    The question you pose as answered by volumes of law would be no. The likeness have to be so close to enforce this type of infringement that we are at no risk at all with stoudt. He's named differently, colored differently, smiling, walking upright, and missing the letters C&U. Al of those things sound dumb but they very much go into deciding a case like this.
     
  27. Idot Buff

    Idot Buff Club Member Club Member

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    Thanks....I suppose Business Law 101 failed me!
     
  28. azbuff

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    This site is probably fine. Despite the color scheme and use of the word "BUFFS" which CU probably has common law trademark rights in, this site is pretty clearly not affilicated with CU.
     
  29. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    Sounds painful.
     
  30. zbuff

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    Not really. I was affilicated at 50, but they put you out completely for the procedure.
     

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