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CU Football: Better team in 2013 or 2010?

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Better CU team?

  1. 2010

    31 vote(s)
    64.6%
  2. 2013

    17 vote(s)
    35.4%
  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    In 2010, CU went 5-7.

    2010 schedule

    W vs CSU (24-3)
    L @ Cal (7-57)
    W vs Hawaii (31-13)
    W vs Georgia (29-27)
    L @ Missouri (0-26)
    L vs Baylor (25-31)
    L vs Texas Tech (24-27)
    L @ Oklahoma (10-43)
    L @ Kansas (45-52)
    W vs Iowa State (34-14)
    W vs Kansas State (44-36)
    L @ Nebraska (17-45)

    2013 Schedule
    W vs CSU (41-27)
    W vs C Arkansas (38-24)
    vs Fresno State
    @ Oregon State
    vs Oregon
    @ Arizona State
    vs Arizona
    @ UCLA
    @ Washington
    vs Cal
    vs USC
    @ Utah

    The biggest advantages the 2010 team had were Jimmy Smith at CB, Nate Solder at LT and Rodney Stewart at RB. At CB and LT, Henderson and Harris are very good college players but they're not 1st round draft picks. Stewart was a playmaker at RB and we don't have anyone who puts as much pressure on a defense as he did.

    Otherwise, we actually compare pretty favorably. I especially like our DL a lot better than 2010's (Cunningham was the leader of the group). And I don't think there's any doubt that coaching and team attitude are much better today than they were in 2010.
     
  2. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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  3. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Not in 2010, man. 2010 was Sipili's Sr year as our MLB.
     
  4. Jens1893

    Jens1893 Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    was on ir for the detroit lions that season
     
  5. Hugegroove

    Hugegroove Club Member Club Member

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    I went with the 2013 team due to the fact that the coaching staff appears to have a far better upside
     
  6. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    We had to have had a better TE in 2010.
     
  7. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    thanks. knew it was around then.
     
  8. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Hope 2010's Georgia win is this year's Fresno State
     
  9. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    2010 team was better and with an easier schedule
     
  10. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Def 2010 unless wood really turns into an all p12 qb
     
  11. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Deehan. We certainly went into the season thinking we did, but looking back I'm not so sure I'd take him over Fernandez.
     
  12. Creebuzz

    Creebuzz Club Member Club Member

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    Hard for me to remember when players got hurt. We did have Major and Rippy on the roster, but I can't remember if they played that season. Rippy, Sipili and Major could've been great as a LBers group. The Oline had Ryan Miller and Nate Solder as tackles I think, although Miller may also have been coming back from injury. Cody and Tyler rotated at QB, right? I think Perkins was mostly injured at Saftey. That team should've been better, but injuries, off the field problems, and HaLk made it underperform. Cabral came in to get 2 wins at the end. 2010 had better upperclassman, but with injuries,etc., the 2013 Buffs may turn out to be the better team.
     
  13. BuffClass90

    BuffClass90 Banned BANNED

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    2010 had more talent and more experience players. 2013 has WAY better coaching. We'd be a mid-tier PAC12 team with 2010's talent and 2013's coaching staff.
     
  14. mdelpizzo_1

    mdelpizzo_1 My Dixie Wrecked Club Member

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    Too early to tell, I do remember being very upset that we should have won against Baylor (****ing bubble screen) and that Tech game the following week.

    We have much better coaching, but I don't know if we'll touch 5 wins this year and as I said before that 2010 team should have won more games. This team may overachieve and reach what the 2010 team did to underachieve.
     
  15. GoBuffs08

    GoBuffs08 Well-Known Member

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    2010 had a much deeper roster and some high quality starters. DII and crew cliniced the team to 5-7 instead of 7-5 and a bowl game. Frickin KU game, are you kidding me?
     
  16. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    I'll tell you after the season.
     
  17. Eggon

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    We are younger but playing together as a team to this point. At least thus far! Current Buffs staff is off to a very good start. Just too early to pass judgement..... Ask me Monday. We are about to learn much this Saturday.....
     
  18. patebuff

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    No reason the 2010 team shouldn't have won 7-8 games, that year. That schedule was set up for 8 wins. IMO, the 2013 schedule is extremely harder than the 2010 schedule. That 2010 team had some good players.
     
  19. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    agreed
     
  20. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    you are drunk on Kool-aide. You are also omitting a number of 2010 difference makers on your list:

    Toney Clemons
    Scotty McKnight
    PRich
    Travon Patterson (faster than anyone but Prich on this team)
    Jalil Brown
    Preicak as all-league
    Hartigan/West/beatty is a better rush combo than CUD and the flavor of the week.
     
  21. CUFan

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    That 2010 underachieved and was poorly coached. While talented, I hate thinking about that team. For those reasons, plus Connor Wood (due in part to my general disdain for all things Hawkins) I'll go with 2013.
     
  22. DBT

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    Really not fair to compare. The coaching staff on this year's team is heads and shoulders above the 2010 team.
     
  23. sackman

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    I think the 2013 team beats the 2010 team, even if its not as talented.
     
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  24. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I think there is a tendency to look back and remember players at their best from over the course of their careers versus what they were/did during a particular season. We'll look back and do the same with the 2013 Buffs.

    We got terrible QB play that year. Neither Scotty nor Toney had a 100 yard game all season. P-Rich is the only guy who did and he's a lot better now.

    On the pass rush, we'll have to see how things play out. Chidera + 2 other guys need 17 1/2 sacks to match that pass rush trio. Keep an eye on Juda and Gilbert.

    Anyway, it's a long season.

    One thing that drives me crazy looking back on that year's roster is the young talent that was run off. Will Jefferson, Forrest West and Liloa Nobriga were 3 of our most productive underclassmen. Embree's time here would have been much more competitive if he'd kept those 3 in the fold (and it would be so nice to have Nobriga this season as a senior OLB).
     
  25. CarolinaBuff

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    Pretty tough to say given we're only 2 games into the season. :huh:
     
  26. lawdogg

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    How is Will Jefferson doing? I seem to recall him being "run off" was reported as having something to do with really bad knees, but then he popped up on a roster elsewhere. Anyone know if he's been tearing it up at his new school, or is he, in fact, as injured as what had been reported.
     
  27. Darth Snow

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    Forrest West. sigh. I'm still mad about that.
     
  28. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Not tearing it up at UNCG. Had a little over 250 yards receiving last year. When I saw him during Embree's first spring, Will Jeff was hobbling around and not always participating, so I can see why they medically retired him. Of course, then the P-Rich injury hit and even at 80% WillJeff would have helped last year.
     
  29. mdelpizzo_1

    mdelpizzo_1 My Dixie Wrecked Club Member

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    That's true, but when I look back at players like that I think of what they did with the coaching they had and what they could have done with better coaching.
     
  30. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    On that note, I'm sure that our current OL coach would love to have inherited Solder-Adkins-Iltis-Miller-Givens with Bakhtiari and Harris as RS-Frosh working in.
     

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