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CU has what they wanted, a bunch of choir boys

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  1. WChusker

    WChusker New Member

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    CU president: 'We're going to stay the course' with Dan Hawkins

    By Vanessa Miller, Camera staff writer
    Posted: 11/26/2009 04:26:54 PM MST

    The wins will come.

    In the meantime, top University of Colorado leaders are proud of the elite students that its head football coach — at least for one more year — recruits to play in black and gold.

    Shortly after CU athletic director Mike Bohn confirmed on Thursday that Dan Hawkins will continue to coach the Buffaloes for a fifth season, CU President Bruce Benson praised the decision and Hawkins as being “exactly the right thing for the university.”

    “I think he's doing the right things, and we're proud of him, and we're going to stay the course,” Benson said, noting Hawkins' recruiting standards. “We really want high-quality kids, and it will come. It's going to take a little while, but I'm a big supporter.”

    Hawkins has been criticized this season by fans upset over mountain losses in what was supposed to be a turnaround year. The Buffs are 3-8 heading into today's rivalry game with Nebraska, and the team is 16-32 in four seasons under Hawkins.

    Rumors swirled Wednesday about an announcement on Hawkins future. Media outlets reported Hawkins would keep his job, and Bohn confirmed those reports Thursday morning.

    Although CU's record this season might not show Hawkins' success, Benson said, his players' academic performance does.

    “The GPA on the team was the highest it's been in many many years, and the kids aren't getting into trouble,” he said. “We used to have a lot of that.

    “We had a structural problem — we were bringing in kids we shouldn't have been bringing in — and all it takes it one bad apple and then you have a scandal,” Benson said. “I don't like scandals.”

    Benson wouldn't speculate beyond next season to say whether Hawkins would keep his job through the end of his extended contract if CU continues to lose.

    “I'm on a day-to-day contract myself, and I'm under scrutiny,” he said. “We go day by day and see how things are going.”

    CU extended Hawkins' contract through the 2012 season last year. Had they decided to fire Hawkins after this season, it would have cost CU more than $3 million. If the program fails to improve next year, the university still would owe Hawkins over $2 million.

    CU Chancellor Phil DiStefano said money partly weighed into the university's decision to keep Hawkins at the helm.

    “I think it was part of the equation,” DiStefano said on Thursday. “You have to consider the cost of buying out a coach. But that wasn't a major factor.”

    What was, DiStefano said, was Hawkins' ability to handle his student athletes.

    “This year he had 19 football players who were on the academic all-American team in the Big 12,” he said. “He has a low tolerance for student athletes who get into trouble, and when you take everything together, I think it was a good decision to keep him.”

    DiStefano said he's hopeful that Hawkins' success with his young players off the field soon will translate to success on the field.

    “Everyone is disappointed in the wins and losses, but I think those wins will come along as well,” he said. “Next year — hopefully starting with tomorrow — they will come.”

    CU graduate Chris Venne, 34, said he's not so sure and thinks the squad's lackluster season points to the need for a change.

    “Dan Hawkins is clearly a bust,” he said, conceding that $3 million is a lot to pay to get rid of a coach. “Some times you have to ride it out and send him packing.”

    Long-time Boulder resident and consummate CU fan William Brodie, 62, disagreed and said Hawkins' character and student standards are enough to keep him here for now.

    “I've followed a lot of coaches, and I think they should give a guy like him at least one more year,” Brodie said. “I know it comes down to if a coach doesn't win the rich alumni want to get rid of him, but it shouldn't be like that.”

    CU senior Stephen Pavone, 21, said aside from Hawkins' “bizarre” press conferences, he supports giving him one more year.

    “I've been disappointed because the team has seemed heartless at games, but I don't know if it's the coach,” Pavone said.

    The CU student's father, Chris Pavone, said he agrees and thinks it takes time to get rolling with a new system.

    “I hate to see (coaches) get turned over that often,” he said.
     
  2. AllStarBuffs

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    Dammit this nightmare is going to last for another year!
     
  3. buffs04

    buffs04 Well-Known Member

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    Why does this university even have a football team?
     
  4. BuffLuKe

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    Duke basketball has choir boys but they do something that CU football doesnt, they win.
     
  5. huskermark

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    I hate to say it but the way things are going you might not have a football team in a few years:sad1:
     
  6. buffs04

    buffs04 Well-Known Member

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    I would rather not have a team than have a team that literally does not have winning as an objective.

    All this bull**** about celebrating our players' mediocre GPA as some kind of accomplishment that makes up for the program's inability to win football games is a bunch of garbage and a loser's attitude.

    You play to win the game. We are not in pre-school. We are not playing little league baseball where it is okay to give out participation trophies.

    In life, there are winners and there are losers. This is exemplified nowhere better than in football.
     
  7. AllStarBuffs

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    Mike Bohn single handedly ruined CU football. He fired a man who brought us big 12 north championships and hired a man who helped destroy what Barnett built.....what a joke
     
  8. buff4bcs1985

    buff4bcs1985 Hail to the King

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    barnett should have been fired that not to be argued but so should hawk
     
  9. Dunken

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    Barnett put CU in a big hole, and at the time when Hawkins was hired it was the right choice....he has cleaned up the mess left by Barnett....but now Hawkins is creating a whole new mess, and the time was now to let him go. By keeping him, we have just took a giant step back....:cry:
     
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    im done !!
     
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    go fuskers
     
  12. Matt

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    I guess they don't need the money from football? If not hawk may be here until well forever.
     
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    Re: CU has what the y wanted, a bunch of choir boys

    if you are going to approach football this way you might as well do yourself and the conference a favor and get out of the Big 12:sad2:
     
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    Re: CU has what the y wanted, a bunch of choir boys

    that's kind of something i was thinking about this morning.
     
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    This program is being run into the ground by the loser mentality that Hawkins, Bohn, et al are bringing to the table.

    I personally find it shocking and even a bit frightening that a group of people who have generally been pretty damn successful in life seem so content to be a part of something that is such a monumental embrace of failure.

    I guess all that matters to any of these people is the fact they are still getting paid.

    CU won a national championship not THAT long ago and was highly, highly successful in the 90s. 2001 they were in the conversation to play in the NC.

    Why fire Barnett on performance when he was dramatically outperforming what you are currently stating to be your expectations?

    Why talk about national championships like a bunch of ****ing FOOLS (Bohn and Hawkins both) "within 3 years" then change your mind? Why 10 wins?

    Why all the bull**** then all the backpedaling when you come comically close to having the exact opposite results of what you said you were going to accomplish?

    If all that matters is academics and citizenship then why embarrass the universe repeatedly with your half-hearted attempts at running a football team? Just get rid of it.

    Oh wait, they can't get rid of it because they need it.

    This is a disgrace. These guys are all a bunch of losers. Promise great things and come so far away from delivering them that you feel compelled to repeatedly lie to your alums and students and fans about where the bar is being set and lower it year after year after year.

    If all Bohn and Hawkins care about with regards to football is getting good AKA mediocre-at-best grades from their players (2.6 at a school that isn't exactly ivy league is not a success) they should go coach at some progressive hippie school in the northeast and leave someone in charge that actually plays sports to win.

    I have never heard coaches at even the high school level before trot out this "winning isn't really important" crap. Ever.
     
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    Who did they talk to for those quotes? I don't know ANYONE who feels even remotely close to the peeps at the end of that article
     
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    So, cu football is intrmurals.

    Hey bensen, Please shut up.
     
  18. LABuffalo

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    What is DiStephano basing him opinion on!? "The wins will come..." Why? Why would they come in the future if they haven't come by now? This shows just how weak academics really are. His thinking is completely fallacious, but in his mind he's infallible. What an idiot.
     
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    Maybe Bohn is waiting in line at Best Buy for a doorbuster deal for a new coach? Hawk is kind of like that 32" 720 p 60Hz TV that needs replacing for a brand new 44" LED 1080 p 120Hz TV.
     
  20. The Guest

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    Just like the one that Mack Brown has in his bathroom.
     

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