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CU pays their cops right?

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  1. BUffsNation

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    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/l...if-not-paid-to-staff-usc-games-232313968.html


    OS ANGELES, CA – NOVEMBER 28: USC Trojans take to the field before the game against the UCLA Bruins at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. (Getty Images)

    The Los Angeles Police Protective League issued a letter to Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti and Police Commissioner Matthew Johnson saying the police who take care of security for USC home football games “will be compelled to take further action” if they are not paid for their services.

    According to the letter, on-duty police officers have been steered away from their normal duties to help police USC home football games without additional compensation.

    “It is our understanding the USC does not have an agreement with the City of Los Angeles regarding the payment for these police services. This ‘gift of public funds’ must end,” the letter read...............
     
  2. leftybuff

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    "...compelled to take further action..." Asset forfeiture of SC fan? That could be lucrative.
     
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    Yes, CU Police are CU employees, paid to be there, for when Argus ****s up.
     
  4. BUffsNation

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    Im thinking "This ‘gift of public funds’ must end,” should result in more sanctions.
     
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    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    it is a different thing with usc. basically, you have as many as 75k fans or more headed into a really crappy neighborhood. the LAPD basically sets up on every corner and every stop light and directs traffic and watches out for the crowds. it is a full-on deployment of resources that costs the city money.
     
  6. ZandiBuff

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    Maybe they shouldn't have their stadium in such a dump.

    That place sucked.
     
  7. BuffUp

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    I thought you were FOS on the 75k number even though the Coliseum can obviously hold that many. Nope, I was wrong. They averaged 75k attendance last year. Color me shocked.
     
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    Is that article from a year ago?
     
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    This just cracks me up. The real issue here has nothing to do with the City 'gifting' public funds. The City of LA made a determination long ago that the additional sales tax revenue far out weighed the cost of the additional units having to cover the games. So currently they have a situation where USC benefits, the public is safe and the City benefits from tax revenues.

    Instead this is a union issue, where a Union that has been incredibly successful in negotiating for its members sees an opportunity to gain additional funds, where they otherwise wouldn't be able to. The police league (Police Union) wants the officers they represent to get additional pay for working these types of events. Meaning the officers would get their 40 hours a week just like they do now, but then would get extra pay directly from USC for working a USC event (Or in the form of overtime or hazard pay).

    If the City is smart they will either ignore the letter entirely, tell the league to take a long hike off a short pier, or have USC pay the City and continue to schedule the officers as is (no overtime, just standard staffing patterns). Another option is to let officers get extra pay direct from USC and then have some lay offs because they are now over staffed (After all their staffing patterns are different as they schedule 100's of man hours extra for each USC game).

    You can't tell from this post, but usually I am pro union. However in this case, the union is biting the hand that feeds them jobs and members and that is just dumb.
     
  11. leftybuff

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    In before unions are the debbil....
     
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    Odd because. like many large universities, USC has its own police department staffed enough to police a campus of 43,000 students plus staff and faculty. I guess I've never really noticed who works the games before, though. I'll have to look out for it tomorrow. I'm not sure if USC has asked the LAPD to work these games or if they've done it on their own and now the union is strong arming USC into paying them. Very Pauly Cicero of them, if so. We offer you our protection, now **** you, pay me.
     
  13. L Buff

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    Wait ... I'm confused. Is it the individual cops who aren't getting paid for the hours they work the games? Or is it that LAPD pays them (as required by law) and that the department isn't getting reimbursed for that?
     
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    CU pays their cops to keep tailgaters off the grass.
     
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    I'm no expert on this, but since USC is a private university, their cops aren't really cops under CA state law. They have limited powers and I'd assume LAPD has to go investigate basically all serious crimes that occur on campus? And all events probably need to have a certain LAPD element at them.

    Where I live there's a private university here that has it's own PD, but they don't really do much beyond basic public safety stuff. Any crime committed means they just call the local PD and they have to handle it.
     
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    God forbid we ask the police to do their jobs, like protect the public and ensure free and clear roadways. Typical
     
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    Does that also mean clearing roadways from protesters?
     
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    Are there 75 thousand protestors in addition to the 75k in attendance?
     
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    Just sayin, you know the principle of it.
     
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    The cops are getting paid but USC isn't paying the police department. That's why I was asking if CU pays Boulder PD for their services at our games. The LA Ram's pay the police but USC does not. And the cops are being assigned to it vs everywhere else where it is a optional overtime thing. You go to a bar downtown and that cop is getting time and a half for standing out there and the bar is paying the police department to pay him that. He already worked 40 hours on the street. In LA the cops are being taken away from patrolling neighborhoods and responding to calls to work the games .

    I guess there is no time to rob a bank like there is during a USC game.

     
  21. BUffsNation

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    I have never been there but are you being sarcastic. Most of the homes around the stadium are 1-2 million
     
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    Around the Coliseum? Seriously?

    It's not quite IN watts, but it's damn close. I wouldn't pay $1 million for the entire neighborhood surrounding that dump. I grew up in Pueblo, and going to U$C reminded me of why I left.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/L...975b4a05b15014!8m2!3d34.0140529!4d-118.288094
     
  23. Creebuzz

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    To be fair, $1 million in L.A. Is practically section 8 housing.
     
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    The area used to be called South Central and includes Watts. To spruce things up they changed the name to South Los Angeles. There are no million dollar homes around the coliseum.
     
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    That is one ugly ass campus. CSU Pueblo is nicer. They do have an ocean in driving distance and great weather. Other then that? That's all I got.
     
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    The Coliseum is about 10 miles away from Watts. That's like saying Folsom Field is pretty much in Broomfield.
     
  28. SerenityBuff

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    I work at USC and the campus is actually very nice. It should be noted that the Coliseum is not actually on campus, but across the street in Exposition Park with the Rose Garden, Science and Natural History museums. It's true that the area south of the Coliseum is crappy and dangerous, but that's true of most of L.A. :)
     
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    USC is also like 10 miles from Beverly Hills for like perspective and stuff
     
  30. Denver_sc

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    I couldn't find anything to substantiate this claim. According to Zillow, here's what's sold for more than $1M recently:

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    If you click on the listings, only the ones to the northwest of the stadium appear to be actual housing; the rest appear to be lots. So far as I can tell, no houses sold recently for more than $1M anywhere near the Coliseum. There are several apartment buildings listed for more than $1M, but as nearly anyone will tell you: listing price and selling price are entirely different creatures.

    FWIW, i've never been there either.
     

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