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CU vs CSU - Writeup

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by drew6236, Sep 3, 2009.

  1. drew6236

    drew6236 Club Member Club Member

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    Found this at one of the entertainment sites I frequent....

    What do you guys think?

    Colorado State Rams +10

    The Colorado Rams are underdogs by a lot more than I thought in this game tonight which I find quite strange based on the fact that the games between these two teams are traditionally very close every year and despite last year's blowout loss 38-17 to the Buffaloes, the Rams actually used that loss as a turning point for their season, they then went on to win 7 games and reach their first Bowl Game since 2005. So you would think that these guys would get a bit more credit from oddsmakers seeing how not only did they reach that New Mexico Bowl Game but they won as +2 points underdogs in a 40-35 win over the Fresno State Bulldogs. So what gives here Vegas? I have no idea how he did it, since he was useless with the Buffalo Bills, but Steve Fairchild led them to a Bowl Game in his first season and now he is back for more. The offense managed 25.2 points per game in 2008 and they had their highest rushing yards per game total since 2003. I think the reason Colorado State is such an underdog here is because Vegas is looking at the fact that the top two rushers on this team are gone and the QB from last season is gone too. We are going to see a new look offense I think if QB Grant Stucker is at the helms. This kid can run on the ground. He had 4 run attempts last year and produced 43 yards. Not bad. He also completed 3 of 5 passes and is a Senior who has experience and who understands rivalries. Rivalry games are shootouts most of the time unless teams can play defense and Colorado has only 4 returning starters from a team that allowed a whopping 29.3 points per game last season. They lose 3 combined interceptions and a whopping 17 sacks (Brad Jones was awesome and he is gone) so by all means Colorado State is going to put some points up on the board just like they did in that Bowl Game last winter and that is why I think they will have no problems keeping this game close and putting themselves in a nice position to win this game. I mean Colorado is not getting any better on defense and seeing how the Rams want revenge for last year's blowout, I say they get it.

    The Colorado Buffaloes are well aware that Colorado State is out for blood. That will either help them or hurt them in this situation because they might come out nervous and make some early mistakes or they might feed off the energy of the crowd and shoot for the endzone on every play. Nonetheless, this is a very capable offense that scored only 20.2 points per game last season (shocking and disappointing if you ask me for a Dan Hawkins team) and now that they have 9 starters back on that side of the ball, we are in for some kind of offensive treat I think. Everyone and anyone who ran the ball last year is back. Everyone and anyone who passed the ball last year is also back. Sure they lose two key Wide Receivers in Patrick Williams and Cody Crawford (combined 61 catches last year) but they should be fine with the plethora of experience they bring to the table this year. Having said that, I expect a complete shootout in this game so scoring points may not mean jack if Colorado State is scoring just as many and it looks like they will be. Sure the Rams defense sucks having allowed 30.2 points per game last season and sure they return only 5 starters on that side of the ball but all that can be tossed out the window in games like this. All I know is that this team has a couple of guys who are real deal breakers on defense as LB Mychal Sisson is one of them and he finished with 105 tackles (7.5 for a loss) last season. No matter how much the Rams continue to attack and be aggressive, I don't think it will be enough to win this game by a lot because I am positive that they do not have the resources on defense to stop Colorado State enough times to pull away with the game. Both Dan and Cody Hawkins are on the hot seat coming into this season and that is the kind of pressure I think neither will react well to so I see the Buffaloes crashing and burning early in this one. It's going to be a good game but Colorado doesn't have the defense to blow it out.

    The rivalry between these two schools always produces close games. Last year was an exception to the matter and even after their blowout loss to Colorado, the Rams from Colorado State still managed a Bowl Game while the Buffaloes did not. So what you can learn from this line is that oddsmakers have grossely invested too much into last year's blowout and they have not taken into consideration that Colorado State will be more motivated than ever to win this game or at least keep it close. How demoralizing must it be for Colorado to know that you had that blow out win over the Rams last season yet they made the Bowl Game and you didn't? Before last year's blowout win by Colorado, the previous 6 meetings had all been decided by a combined 25 points and none of them by more than a touchdown. I think we go back to that tradition here. I also find it interesting that since the arrival of Dan Hawkins as coach (the Buffaloes were 16-2 in home openers), this team is only 1-2 in home openers with a loss to I-AA team and a near loss to another I-AA team last year. No matter how bad Colorado State was last year and the year before as a road underdog, this is rivalry game, they are pissed about last year and they are coming off a huge Bowl Game win. Colorado finished 2008 going 2-7 ATS in their last nine games and you have to know that the line is severely blown up for this game as Colorado is only 1-7 ATS in their last eight home games as a favorite of 3.5 to 10 points. The underdog is 10-3 ATS in the last 13 meetings and the road team is 5-1 ATS in the last six meetings. That says it all right there, expect an upset win and expect Dan Hawkins to last another few weeks only if that happens. This could be the last straw Hawkins!

    Trend of the Game: Colorado is 1-7 ATS in their last eight games as a home favorite.


    Colorado State 34, Colorado 31
     
  2. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    I think you need to frequent different entertainment sites.... :huh:
     
  3. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    That guy is an idot.
     
  4. CUSailor

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    To think CSU making a bowl and CU not has anything to do with it is ridiculous. BIG 12 to MWC is apples to oranges. CSU can't run the ball; CU is weak up front. CSU has a new QB and CU has decent to above average secondary. I say this game is close at halftime (say 17-7 CU) then the buffs overpower them in the 4th for a 41-17 win. Mark it, dude!
     
  5. LilBunky

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    FTS!

    If that kind of stoopid analysis was from a bookie, they'd be broke in a weekend! Guess thatswhy its an entertainment site, eh?
     
  6. Rraalph 3000

    Rraalph 3000 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know how he makes the argument that their offense is going to be great based off the assumption that Stucker is 3 for 5 in his career and ran the ball 4 times for 40 yards....whoopity doo da

    Lots of brash generalizations in the garbage....worth a good chuckle indeed
     
  7. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    That is the kind of malarky that can help sell a bet.

    Go ahead Rammie, let's forget the points. What do odds makers know anyway?
     
  8. zbuff

    zbuff Club Member Club Member

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    That is pretty funny, he talks about the "Colorado Rams," the "Rams...resources on defense to stop Colorado State," and even predicts Coach Hawk getting fired. The only reasonable point he makes is the history of close games, but then he selectively uses that to throw out some arguments for CU winning. A true idot!
     
  9. InTheBuff

    InTheBuff Club Member Club Member

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    I just wasted three minutes of my life I can't get back.
     
  10. dply

    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
     
  11. 14er

    14er “Imitation is suicide.” -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    Tough crowd. makes you think twice.

    But I was too lazy to read it :smile:
     
  12. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    No respect. Time to earn it.
     
  13. BuffTuba

    BuffTuba Club Member Club Member

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    :yeahthat:
    That was definitely written by a spurned CSU fan. I don't think I have ever heard a more slanted analysis of a rivalry with more back-handed comments than a drunk in-law at Thanksgiving.

    (I mean no offense to in-laws. They are usually very nice, caring and entertaining. Drinking just circumvents normal verbal filters at times)
     
  14. Dunken

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    WOW, someone needs their ass kicked for this......GO BUFFS!!!!
     
  15. FlatironsBuff

    FlatironsBuff Club Member Club Member

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    'Entertainment site' means Vegas? and if they can get more Lammies to bet on the lambchops, then the line goes lower, more Buffs think it's a sucker bet, more money riding on the game. I don't read much into those reports. All a guessing game.
     
  16. drew6236

    drew6236 Club Member Club Member

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    Honestly, this is just an average joe who posts his plays at the forum. I check out his plays once in awhile but after I read this, lost all respect for the guy.
     
  17. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    It is one thing to pick CSU you to win, it is another to write that uneducated drivel :lol:
     
  18. BehindEnemyLines

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    <quote drivel>
    "...teams can play defense and Colorado has only 4 returning starters from a team that allowed a whopping 29.3 points per game last season."</quote drivel>

    let's see.....

    Mohler
    Smart
    C Brown
    Jimmy Smith
    A Wright
    Mahnke

    that looks like six to me.....anyone I'm missing?

    Who is this moron?
     
  19. buffz90

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    "This kid can run on the ground."

    That's some serious insight. I mean, it's a good thing for CSU that the Rams play on the ground. Otherwise, Stucker might have less of an impact on their games. But since the Rams play on the ground, I guess like every other MWC team does, he can run. On the ground. I like it.
     
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    DBT Club Member Club Member

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    Was that guy trying to get a Guinness Book of World Record entry for "longest opening sentence in crappy internet article?"
     
  21. dply

    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    Wow 77 words without a period. :wow:
     
  22. B1Buff

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    Honestly good for a laugh. No real knowledge of anything from either side it seems, but a CSU fan for sure. I will be very dispappointed if this game is not a majore blowout.

    And to say that Dan Hawkins must be pissed that he handled the ewes like that last year and they made a bowl and CU didn't...Are you kidding me. the MWC is a joake and will not be legitimate until they can put at least 5 decent teams out consistently. Otherwise they are just the overrated, Pac-10 similar, **** conference. I hope you can beat UNLV and NMSU...they are ****. CSU would have a similar record playing in a Colorado HS conference this season. Good to hear this guys deep insight though...he is truly a ratard.
     
  23. ladyblaise

    ladyblaise Club Member Club Member

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    the game is ALWAYS close? last year was an EXCEPTION?

    eithe this guy has a short memory, or he has no idea that the buffs have practically shut out the rams about as often as the rams have wins. i recall witnessing quite a few annhiliations of the rams at folsom in the recent past.
     
  24. OUBuff

    OUBuff American Club Member

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    Still... 3 minutes closer to Sunday:thumbsup:
     

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