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Deadspin story on BYU's honor code

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by dply, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. dply

    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    Great reading:

    http://deadspin.com/#!5791461
     
  2. lvbuff

    lvbuff Well-Known Member

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    I would bet that the numbers across DIV I universities are similar. Across the US Black males account for all of 4.2 percent of the general undergrad enrollment. This is no surprise.
     
  3. The Guest

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    This article further demonstrates the bias against LDS. Is the author from Colorado?
     
  4. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    Rick Reilly and Woody Page were the ghost writers. Duh.
     
  5. BuffsNYC

    BuffsNYC Uptown Club Member

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    How does BYU recruit anyone who's not LDS? Come to Provo to play football: five years of no sex, no alcohol, no caffeine--or five years of lying about it.
     
  6. BuffNut99

    BuffNut99 Club Member Club Member

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    Wouldn't the players BYU recruits that aren't LDS (minorities or not) the most likely to violate the honor code? Not surprising.
     
  7. GoBuffs08

    GoBuffs08 Well-Known Member

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    I have always wondered the same thing.
     
  8. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    i have a cousin who played baseball at Oral Roberts when they were an NCAA team. kind of the same thing, a lot of codes and behavior rules. he said it wasn't too bad....would seem awful to me. still lives in Tulsa.
     
  9. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    My gut feeling is BYU is a dead program walking under the current direction they are going. I can honestly see them being like Army/Navy in the coming 10-15 years.
     
  10. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    hmm. nah. they got enough money coming their way to keep them afloat. But they won't stay independent forever.
     
  11. GregInArlington

    GregInArlington Well-Known Member

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    Because it's worth the $$$ they pay you. The honor code is a cover up.
     
  12. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    After reading this, I decided to do some reading on Mormonism and the "Curse of Cain". Ugh.

    It does sound like they've made significant strides in the past 25 years, though.
     
  13. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    Which is why I said "under the current direction they are going."
     
  14. Heywood

    Heywood The actual El Guapo Club Member

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    Just read something about how BYU thinks they are going for the Nat Champ this year. After I got done laughing I began to wonder. They were previously in the MWC which is not a BCS conference right? Now that they are independent can they get into a BCS game? Notre Dame can I suppose. How does the BCS deal with indie teams.

    As for the article, I am sure that the non mormon (black) students are more likely to run afoul of the honor code since normal humans like coffee and beer and sex. So no surprise there. It was hard to tell what was sour grapes from some of the ex students concerning "they never told me about the honor code" stuff. The other allegations about white/mormon students/athletes getting lighter or no sentencing was only given one example to support it. However, I would not be surprised to hear that it is true but it would be hard to prove. The revelations about the kids partying and drinking is no surprise. I grew up in a small mormon town and when I came back to visit all of my friends were smoking and drinking like standard teenagers.

    The article just reinforced what I had always wondered. Why in gods name would you go to BYU if you were not mormon? Seems like more and more people are figuring this out. I agree that if they stay independent and cannot recruit outside of their religion the program is slowly driving off of a cliff.
     
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  15. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    Just form the God & Country conference already.

    G&C

    Air Force Academy
    Army
    Baylor
    Boston College
    BYU
    Navy
    Notre Dame
    Southern Methodist
    Texas Christian
     
  16. GregInArlington

    GregInArlington Well-Known Member

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    you might as well throw A&M in there as well to make an even number.

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Then you'd have to include Citadel and VMI so all the toy soldier institutions are represented.
     
  18. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    add the Citadel to get an even 10
     
  19. PhillyBuff

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    Oral :nod:
     
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    Ah... I'm so glad they confirmed with anectdotal evidence and removed data points that didn't fit their agenda. Well done, Deadspin!

    Seriously, i don't give two ****s about BYU and their honor code, but that was a poorly written peice of trash. I want 10 minutes of my life back.
     
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    It appears he's probably got a knack for it.
     
  22. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    Need one more for the God Division.

    Country Division: Air Force Academy, Army, Boston College, Navy, A&M, Citadel, VMI

    God Division: Baylor, BYU, Notre Dame, Southern Methodist, Texas Christian, Oral
     
  23. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    Texas thinks they are god. That count? Go with University of San Diego (Roman Catholic affiliation)
     
  24. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    Done! What do you call the conference championship?
     
  25. dply

    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    Church and State Bowl
     
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  26. torerobuff

    torerobuff Dancing is forbidden Club Member

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    Will we (being USD) be allowed to shave points in this conference? uggggghhhhh.
     
  27. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    will you be repenting after each game?
     

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