Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by dply, Apr 13, 2011.
I would bet that the numbers across DIV I universities are similar. Across the US Black males account for all of 4.2 percent of the general undergrad enrollment. This is no surprise.
This article further demonstrates the bias against LDS. Is the author from Colorado?
Rick Reilly and Woody Page were the ghost writers. Duh.
How does BYU recruit anyone who's not LDS? Come to Provo to play football: five years of no sex, no alcohol, no caffeine--or five years of lying about it.
Wouldn't the players BYU recruits that aren't LDS (minorities or not) the most likely to violate the honor code? Not surprising.
I have always wondered the same thing.
i have a cousin who played baseball at Oral Roberts when they were an NCAA team. kind of the same thing, a lot of codes and behavior rules. he said it wasn't too bad....would seem awful to me. still lives in Tulsa.
My gut feeling is BYU is a dead program walking under the current direction they are going. I can honestly see them being like Army/Navy in the coming 10-15 years.
hmm. nah. they got enough money coming their way to keep them afloat. But they won't stay independent forever.
Because it's worth the $$$ they pay you. The honor code is a cover up.
After reading this, I decided to do some reading on Mormonism and the "Curse of Cain". Ugh.
It does sound like they've made significant strides in the past 25 years, though.
Which is why I said "under the current direction they are going."
Just read something about how BYU thinks they are going for the Nat Champ this year. After I got done laughing I began to wonder. They were previously in the MWC which is not a BCS conference right? Now that they are independent can they get into a BCS game? Notre Dame can I suppose. How does the BCS deal with indie teams.
As for the article, I am sure that the non mormon (black) students are more likely to run afoul of the honor code since normal humans like coffee and beer and sex. So no surprise there. It was hard to tell what was sour grapes from some of the ex students concerning "they never told me about the honor code" stuff. The other allegations about white/mormon students/athletes getting lighter or no sentencing was only given one example to support it. However, I would not be surprised to hear that it is true but it would be hard to prove. The revelations about the kids partying and drinking is no surprise. I grew up in a small mormon town and when I came back to visit all of my friends were smoking and drinking like standard teenagers.
The article just reinforced what I had always wondered. Why in gods name would you go to BYU if you were not mormon? Seems like more and more people are figuring this out. I agree that if they stay independent and cannot recruit outside of their religion the program is slowly driving off of a cliff.
Just form the God & Country conference already.
Air Force Academy
you might as well throw A&M in there as well to make an even number.
Then you'd have to include Citadel and VMI so all the toy soldier institutions are represented.
add the Citadel to get an even 10
Ah... I'm so glad they confirmed with anectdotal evidence and removed data points that didn't fit their agenda. Well done, Deadspin!
Seriously, i don't give two ****s about BYU and their honor code, but that was a poorly written peice of trash. I want 10 minutes of my life back.
It appears he's probably got a knack for it.
Need one more for the God Division.
Country Division: Air Force Academy, Army, Boston College, Navy, A&M, Citadel, VMI
God Division: Baylor, BYU, Notre Dame, Southern Methodist, Texas Christian, Oral
Texas thinks they are god. That count? Go with University of San Diego (Roman Catholic affiliation)
Done! What do you call the conference championship?
Church and State Bowl
Will we (being USD) be allowed to shave points in this conference? uggggghhhhh.
will you be repenting after each game?
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