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Did they reduce the size of the goalposts?

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  1. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    Sorry if this was already posted somewhere, but my buddy was reading a training camp reports on TTU rivals site, and they're reporting that Hawk trimmed the width of the goalposts by 6ft. True?
     
  2. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

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    He made the goalposts more narrow to help with practice / accuracy.
     
  3. The Guest

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    It was in a BDC article today. Yes.
     
  4. kicker77

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    Hawk didnt make them, just another training tool. Skinnies have been around for a long time. CU is once again behind the curve. Kick at a light post if you want to really focus and know what goes wrong on each kick. these posts do not do any good, if a kicker does not know why he hooked it, pushed it, line drive, etc.. There is a reason for any and all misses. Special teams will be better this year, cannot wait to see game action
     
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    Not a bad post (so to speak). What did you do, again, to get all of the neg rep???
     
  6. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    i saw the narrow one's up for a bit, but the FG posts on the practice field look regulation to me.
     
  7. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I believe that he didn't make it clear that he had a relationship with some of our kickers and other in-state kicking prospects when he made his initial posts. Some people got a bit pissed and felt like he was sandbagging once it came out. If I recall, there was some heated stuff over why Aweida didn't stick with the team and how he may have been done wrong by not being given a chance last season.

    Water under the bridge, imo. Keep bringing the informed commentary, kicker77. For the most part none of us know a damn thing about kicking or punting.
     
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    Fixed the bold part. Thanks for your response.
     
  9. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

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    fixed.
     
  10. DBT

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    I look at it like golf. When you are on the tee box and have a narrow fairway in front of you, its easy to choke. When you have a wide open fairway, you feel like you can let it rip. So, maybe when a kicker gets used to the narrow goal posts in practice and then gets into a game and sees the wider target, he will have a better "visual" and will be able to let it rip. Does that make any sense?
     
  11. GregInArlington

    GregInArlington Well-Known Member

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    ...Except for the 11 angry men running at you trying to kill you
    ...and 85,000 people screaming at you hoping you miss
    ...and there's no kicking in golf









    just messing with you DBT
     
  12. DBT

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    Maybe, but the kicker doesn't have to worry about water hazards with gators in it.
     
  13. kicker77

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    water under the bridge, everything has been smoothed out...all I do is try to help, thats it. No bad pub either, I tell all my kickers when no one else will back you up, I will. Happens a lot as a kicker. Like I said earlier, special teams will perform at a higher level this year. How high? only time will tell. Turn around season for CU. FYI love all the posts on kickers, funny stuff
     
  14. Darian3Hagan

    Darian3Hagan '89 Player of the Year Club Member

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    Why are kicking threads in the football forum?
     
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    zing!
     
  16. AlferdJasper

    AlferdJasper Well-Known Member

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    Welcome back kicker77.:thumbsup:

    'splain it to these guys.
     
  17. kicker77

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    Ill try Alfred, I do my best
     
  18. AlferdJasper

    AlferdJasper Well-Known Member

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    The thing for which I have no reasonable explaination is this:

    How does Aric keep hitting goalposts? A poster on RalphieReport noted he banged another goalpost today, and the posts aren't even as wide as usual.
    Is this just a recurring fluke, or some technique issue?

    You could offer me a hundred bucks to kick balls and try to hit the goalpost all day long, and I bet I'd still be broke.
     
  19. sackman

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    I wish I shared your optimism. I'm extremely concerned about our kicking situation. Placekicking in particular. I think we have some serious issues there. The kind of issues that make a coach do things he ordinarily wouldn't, like go for it on 4th and 5 from the opponent's 30 yard line.
     
  20. kicker77

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    Alfred, def. a mechanical issue. They are charting kicks for the most part up to 20 per day. I wouldnt be trying to hit posts if I was being charted. However, hitting posts is a great drill, I have freshman in high school hitting 10-13 posts out of 25 balls. Coach Riddle saw one of my freshman clients hit 13-25 one day at Centaurus High. As for special teams, punting will be fine. Zach is hitting great balls out there, he will hit a groove here real soon. Kicking........I am just not sure what is going to happen. If you ask me someone else deserves to lose the job or keep it, cannot get much worse. I am skeptical on how the coaches see this "competition" I can only say wait and see. We do not need a guy who can hit 65 yd fg, I know people agree with that. They need to go by who puts it through, no matter how "pretty" it is. There needs to be more practice time with snappers, holders, and kickers, more live work. Only 3-5 live kicks are charted. Lets make it serious and do 7-10 live reps each guy each day. At the end you have %'s, highest is the kicker. Others get better and be ready to kick at anytime.
     
  21. FChairbanks

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    jim turner...is that you?
     
  22. AlferdJasper

    AlferdJasper Well-Known Member

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    Kicker77 - did you get to the scrimmage today?

    Have a couple questions for you if you did.
    The couple of guys I was with - as usual - know more about special teams than I can ever hope to know. They were particularly interested in the snappers, who they pointed out are both new in way. One is a freshman and one just switched to snapping after Drescher graduated. So both new in a sense. Also pointed out some problems (to put it lightly) with blocking for the punter and kickers. I was watching the kickers, they were watching the snappers and blocking, which they said was terrible.

    Your thoughts on any of those or related topics - accuracy/speed of snaps, blocking on special teams - would be interesting. Both felt the punter lost valuable time since the snaps were low and not on target, and he had to move to catch the ball, (sometimes bending over to catch it) then quickly place his foot for the punt. Guys were coming right through the line - They commented that if you can give the punter a microsecond more to get the ball off his foot, he can do much better. He had to adjust himself and then rush the punt almost every time. Did you see that? Seems like (if they were right), the coaches ought to pick up on that in tape review pretty fast.
     
  23. GoldenBuff

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    I'm far from a football expert but I noticed this too. The blocking team were not giving Grossnickle any time to get the ball off and I think he did pretty well in spite of it. The place kicking coverage seemed ok to me but the punt blocking was terrible.
     
  24. DBT

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    Its all about pronation really. The kicking motion starts with the shoulders and works its way down to the leg, ankle, and foot. Angular momentum. Force = Mass x Acceleration. Since mass is pretty much the same for all kickers, acceleration is the primary component. So, how do you get maximum acc....oh forget it. I have no effing idea what I'm talking about. Carry on.
     
  25. kicker77

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    I have seen some lack luster blocking in most of the practices. Shows in the scrimmage...... All we ask is to play every down, special teams/offense/defense with maximum effort. Esp. oline blocking. It seems these days, everywhere, oline takes off for special teams. There is no excuse for a guy to come through any part of the line, If the guys on the outside block it, it is usually the kickers fault. Unless the far wing blocker doesnt push him off his path enough. In addition, if a ball is getting blocked by the dline or behind, how about you big olinemen punch the s--- out of their stomach. they will not raise their arms again to block a kick!! All I ask is for everyone to put forth max effort each play. Includes kickers, get the job done. Its 4th down put it through the uprights. Anything less than 75% on fg this year will be unacceptable. An improvement, but why settle for mediocracy? You have to want to be the best, I know I wouldnt want to be the 25th best kicker in the nation.

    I am very concerned about our snappers, There will be a few snapping mistakes this year, hope they wont hurt too bad. If a snap is slow....all hell can break loose. So, I guess all I can say is the coaching staff should be putting more time into it, it is somewhat important right?

    Finally, I found it funny how Hawk found out about the narrow posts from Prater.......it would be cool if they havent been around for at least 10 years, and before that with homemade ones. Once again, CU is behind the curve, other schools have had this training tool for god knows how long. Once again, the kicker being treated like the bastard child, until the eye of Colorado is on you.

    Perfect Practice makes. More perfect performance.
    Practice makes..........
     
  26. kicker77

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    DBT your on your way.. Your right. Its all in your steps(approach)
     
  27. DBT

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    Actually, it is solid physics and I do understand the concepts a little. It is similar to, say, a tennis serve, golf swing, or hitting a baseball. Its all about converting kinetic energy into acceleration at impact along a vector that will propel the ball through the target. I'd assume that the reason a ball hooks is very similar to a golf ball off the face of the club: foot/club head open or closed at impact, swing plane inside out or outside in. Stuff like that. So, the theory seems pretty straight forward. But if it were that simple, anyone could do it. I'd assume the physiology of the kicker also has a huge part in it. Mass, fast twitch muscle fiber, etc. And most of all, technique and the ability for the kicker to make all his body parts work in the proper sequence and the ability to repeat that motion each and every time. Oh, and the mental part, as all us CU fans are painfully aware. I can look like a pro on a driving range, putting the ball within 10 or 15 ft. of the target from 150 yards time and again. But when I'm on the course, forget it. The pressure of the shot makes all my reflexes screw up.
     
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    That's probably the worst twitter update ever.
     
  29. Daaah

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    dbt kills it again.
     
  30. AlferdJasper

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    Thanks much. I'm a homie for Grossnickle, so I didn't want to post MY observations which are usually skewed. But my buddies kept insisting that whoever was blocking ... wasn't. That there was no excuse for #16 to break through twice. That the snaps were rusty and imperfect and the punter was taking extra motion to deal with it.

    Still seems like something that will be a glaring observation in tape review, and something correctable. As in getting your @ss chewed out for being lazy. Guys: we only have one punter on the roster. Protect his skinny butt.
     

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