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Does football or basketball have a more difficult task this year?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Buffnik, Jul 25, 2011.

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Which is more difficult?

  1. Changing players

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    7.1%
  2. Changing coaches & system

    39 vote(s)
    92.9%
  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Football gets almost all of the team back, but has to install completely new systems with a new coaching staff.

    Basketball lost like 80% of its offensive production, but has a continuity of a system.

    Which is the bigger challenge, replacing players or changing coaching?
     
  2. DBT

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    I think getting a new staff and system in place is the most difficult. Once that is established, things begin to roll.
     
  3. 96 Buff

    96 Buff Resident Commie Bastard Club Member Junta Member

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    Every team faces the challenge of replacing players.
     
  4. MtnBuff

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    Football has a much tougher task.

    First off CUs tradition is in football, that is what most people pay attention to. If basketball backslides the scrutiny will not be anywhere near as harsh. Football even with the disaster of the Hawk era, has higher expectations in the minds of the casual fan.

    Basketball is also easier to turn around and to retool. You only need one or two players to step up and step forward to make a major impact on a teams results on the floor. In football even a great player can get lost if the guys around him aren't up to standard.

    It can also be argued that the PAC 12 is relatively much weaker top to bottom in basketball, the opportunity is there due to the failings of the opponents, in football you play a limited number of games and can't hide from the better teams on your schedule. The Buffs football schedule this year could be very difficult start to finish with few chances to stop and catch their breath, basketball will have more chances to get back on track when the season starts.
     
  5. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    interesting question. both certainly have a unique challenge on the plate. can football with success, physical play, and discipline return to where it was/connect with the past that has marked most of CU football for the last 20-30 years. put the Hawkins era behind it and restore pride to the Dal.

    basketball has a unique opportunity to continue to build upon the foundation of the Higgins/Burks "era", continue to energize the fan base, and have some real momentum behind the program rather than brief, every once in a while excitement that typified the Patton years. raise expectations as well.
     
  6. MtnBuff

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    Good point with basketball. CU has has some success in the past but it has always been limited to one "generation" of players, the Chauncey era, the Donnie Boyce era, the Jay Humphries era, even back to the Cliff Meely era but the success has always left along with the star and/or the group of players who brought it. It will be interesting to see how Tad does maintaining success through succeeding groups of players. This is what will establish the Buffs as a legit program instead of an occassional team that jumps up only to fall back into mediocracy or worse.
     
  7. GoBuffs08

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    Football gets my vote.

    Last year we were very slow, but made up for it by being undersized. Not only do the new coaches need to teach a new system, they need to improve talent throughout the roster. We lost our best players to the NFL. The new coaches also need to eliminate the DII mentality that infected the team.

    Basketball really comes down to a single player, maybe 2 players. They have a solid foundation, and if they can land one or 2 solid freshmen players they should be able to remain competitive, especially moving to a weaker basketball conference.
     
  8. BehindEnemyLines

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    Football. Bball has some momentum, and I hope they keep it going. Football was heading south in a north-bound lane; gonna take some effort to u-turn this semi.
     
  9. CUFan

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    Initially I believed it will be more difficult for basketball given the loss of Burks, Higgins, Relphorde, Knutson. Football has a new coach and system, but has some experience and some talent. However, in the final analysis I lean toward football with the brutal schedule tipping the scales.
     
  10. sackman

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    Football has a much more challenging task ahead of it. Boyle has these kids believing in themselves and in him. The Pac is an easier conference, basketball wise, than the Big 12 was. Scheduling is easier. There are fewer moving parts, too. Football has 22 guys, plus special teams, to deal with. It's harder and takes more time to instill a football system than a basketball system. Basketball is a far more simple game than football. Adjustments can be made quicker - sometimes as quickly as taking one guy out and putting another one in his place. You can't do that in football.
     
  11. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    While I agree, it also points to replacing talent being tougher in basketball because it's harder to win with scheme. If my 5 guys are better than Boyle's 5 guys, I could hold my own coaching against him.
     
  12. sackman

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    A typical college football recruiting class is somewhere around 25 guys. A typical basketball recruiting class is 3-4 guys.
     
  13. Duff Man

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    It is football by a good margin because we have a first time HC, first time OC, and an inexperienced DC all learning on the job at the same time.
     
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    Definitely football ... new coaches, new system, unproven coaches, the need for many pieces of the puzzle to fall into place.
    The basketball team lost most of its scoring but the returning players continue in the same system with the same coaches. And one of the players who will be counted on to help fill the scoring gap was already with the team practicing all last season.
     

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