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Does Tad think Talton can play defense?

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by buffaholic, Feb 20, 2014.

  1. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

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    I've been slammed all season for defending Talton and recently told he can't play defense. What's Tad say?
     
  2. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    XT isn't the defender that J-Hop is. But he's an average athlete for a Pac-12 guard, has above average length, and his basketball IQ increases daily. Good frame for getting stronger, too.

    I think he's on the trajectory to be a Nate Tomlinson level defender as an upperclassman.
     
  3. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    and this is not a backhanded compliment.
     
  4. wyobuff

    wyobuff Well-Known Member

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    Clearly, XT isnt the best defender on the team (by any stretch).
    But, he's long and he's getting better and he'll for sure be a 4 year guy. Think of the improvement he's shown since spencer went down, and he'll have 2 more years to get better. He'll be more than adequate by his senior campaign (and probably midway through his junior campaign as well)
     
  5. Gary Indiana

    Gary Indiana Club Member Club Member

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    Is this real life?
     
  6. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    I really don't understand why the hell we are questioning his defensive play all of a sudden. He will never be andre, spencer, wes, or josh, but he kept the Pac-12's second leading scorer to his average last night. He had one silly foul and did about everything you can ask from him on the other side of the floor. Talton has stepped up his game in just about every area since Spencer went down. Kid is playing good solid basketball.
     
  7. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    during your rewatch, did you think Talton did a better job than Stalzer (on Carson)? or were they about the same.
     
  8. BuffLuKe

    BuffLuKe Club Member Club Member

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    Just my opinion but Carson is one of the quickest guards in the country. Think CU did a pretty good job on him.
     
  9. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

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    Tziskin (Rivals): "I'm obviously biased but that was the best 0 pt performance I've ever seen. Locked up Carson defensively the whole night, Jahii made some very tough buckets to get his numbers. Huge pass to XJ in a crucial moment."
     
  10. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    I think J hop was the best defender on Carson, but J Hop has much more length that XT so that isn't to be expected. Talton was next and it was pretty close IMO. Eli only really had like 2 or 3 possessions to guard him so couldn't really evaluate that one.
     
  11. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    that is how I saw it too. I thought Eli did fine.
     
  12. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    you know that T in tziskin does not stand for Tad right?
     
  13. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    Eli was actually solid last night in his few minutes.

    10min, 1stl, 1to, 2pts but held his own against Jahii.
     
  14. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    He had one moment where he was inexcusably lazy and made a half assed attempt to defend a 3. Other than that, about as much as you can ask for from him for now.
     
  15. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Can't you just enjoy his contribution without whining? Sheesh
     
  16. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

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    For those who don't know who Tziskin is, he assists on the Rivals board for Basketball content.
     
  17. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Awwww look whose panties are still in a bunch for being exposed.
     
  18. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    That's why he was pulled, I believe.

    Something with Stalzer that most folks don't realize is that he's got about a 7ft wingspan and was an excellent volleyball player (sister or 2 played VBall in college). He's actually a plus athlete that Tad recruited to be a Sabatino Chen type as an upperclassman. I'm not sure he's as athletic as Sab and he probably can't guard the 4 like Sab was able to, but he is potentially a better ball handler. Also a smart kid (like Sab) with great leadership - 2x team captain on those all-star Mater Dei teams he played for. He just needs to want it in basketball and I'm not sure where his life passion and direction is.
     
  19. chitownbuff

    chitownbuff Club Member Club Member

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    music, right?
     
  20. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    the free throw shooting is a major red flag. I'm pulling for him, but that makes me wonder
     
  21. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Yeah. That's a difficult, time-consuming major. You can't be a great pianist if you don't practice outside of class. Unfortunately, you also can't be a great basketball player if you don't practice and train outside of the NCAA allotted team times. It's a difficult spot for him.
     
  22. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    For those who don't know, the band goldfinger was started by a bass player and 3 robots.
     
  23. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Exposed? You think highly of yourself
     
  24. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    No, I think lowly of you.
     
  25. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    stop it, you two.
     
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    FWIW, after the game the radio guys said XT's defense was one of the differences in the game.
     
  27. Eggon

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    Little X is a huge part of the turnaround of this team. Lest we forget without him in the Utah game, very likely our downward spiral had room to run.

    To me what an unexpected bonus he as been from start of season till now.... Rock like with upside from here. That guy he was guarding last night was faster than anyone else on the floor.

    No complaint from me on XT and his progress this season.
     
  28. Buffalo Brad

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    XT played well on D. He had the boneheaded foul at the end but overall, I loved his game last night. He was active moving around the court, passed the ball very well, etc. The only thing I wish he had done was to take one or two threes that were open for him. Not a big issue, but he has been shooting the ball fairly well and he was open several times and chose to pass. Not a huge issue at all. Glad to see the kid making progress and improve. He is getting better and better this season.
     
  29. The Ogre

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    So it's not Snake, right?

    Talton still isn't consistent on both ends of the court, but I like how he's stepped up. Last year and when he was being recruited, there were plenty who said his scholarship should have gone elsewhere - I'm happy to see a NE Colorado kid shine a little. Hopefully he continues to steadily improve.
     
  30. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    Nearly everyone knows who Ziskin is, and he gets way too caught up in his own emotions and says silly things A LOT. You originally had a very good point that Talton had a strong game last night and it supports your argument that he's better than the board thinks he is and many of us should have not busted your chops as badly. But to quote one of the respected hoops guys around here "I think i may have to shoot myself, I am agreeing with TZ on twitter." To say what you are quoted as saying above really undermines your point, we'll ignore the tone of it.

    While Tyler has been a significant contribution to CU basketball and is a loud voice for us but he's by no means an expert, this is after-all a guy who would tell near anyone who'd listen that he could take Austin Dufault in One-on-One during his senior season while averaging double digits in the pac12 and contributing to a tourney run. Other Ziskin gems include: Calling Wes Gordon horrible and questioning giving him a scholly, calling XJ our worst perimeter defender (presumably before he gave Wilcox fits) and Telling anyone who'd listen that Jhop does nothing to contribute to our team winning (after the CSU game where his 10 point flurry turned the game).
     
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